Supreme Intelligence or Random Coincidence?

[nilan3000]

N for Nilan: Supreme intelligence or Random coincidence?

The basic premise is that even those of us who require proof to believe in something might end up making a decicion based on faith. I am curious on what the others here think.

[Osborn F Enready]

We all make decisions based on what WE as individuals deem relevant.

It is as varied an answer as individuals can describe, meaning, all answers are different.

All decisions require an element of faith, even if it is only faith in the concretes one has observed or stored for mental relativity.

[loser]

One would think that randomness correlates to chance. However, point to any game of 'chance' (that incorporates something like a roll of the dice) that is played on a computer and it is invariably created through a (designed) program called a random number generator.

Amazingly, even random coincidence is often generated through intelligent design.

The last verse of my poem, "The Puppet Master" (posted previously somewhere else on another thread) says it all:


So if you're feeling lucky
Remember, nothing's left to chance
For without the puppet's Master
The puppet would not dance

[shunyadragon]

Quote by: nilan3000 N for Nilan: Supreme intelligence or Random coincidence? The basic premise is that even those of us who require proof to believe in something might end up making a decicion based on faith. I am curious on what the others here think.

The problem is that Random coincidence does not exist in nature. True randomness has been only observed at Quantum level concerning behavior of subatomic particles. Coincidence is simply a human construct on the nature of occurances that appear coincidental to humans.

The nature of existence of our universe, solar system, planet, and life itself function very well based upon natural law, natural environment, and the natural course of history created by a very natural God. Unfortunitely the nature and existence of God cannot be proved from the falliable limited perspective.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: loser One would think that randomness correlates to chance. However, point to any game of 'chance' (that incorporates something like a roll of the dice) that is played on a computer and it is invariably created through a (designed) program called a random number generator. Amazingly, even random coincidence is often generated through intelligent design. The last verse of my poem, "The Puppet Master" (posted previously somewhere else on another thread) says it all: So if you're feeling lucky Remember, nothing's left to chance For without the puppet's Master The puppet would not dance

If you think int design is involved, it's not random coincidence. And even with that computer design, it's still programmed to make *random* permutations. That is, even the computer cannot foresee what numbers will be generated before the generator is used.

Also, your poem just says that without a puppet master, a puppet doesn't move on its own. I don't see the similarities to where you can apply that situation to this one.

[Zhavric]

Quote by: loser One would think that randomness correlates to chance. However, point to any game of 'chance' (that incorporates something like a roll of the dice) that is played on a computer and it is invariably created through a (designed) program called a random number generator. Amazingly, even random coincidence is often generated through intelligent design.

False analogy: there is no evidence the universe is designed in the way a computer game is designed and considerable evidence suggesting it's not.

So if you're feeling lucky [7 syllables] [does not rhyme with line 3] Remember, nothing's left to chance [8 syllables] For without the puppet's Master [8 syllables] [does not rhyme with line 1] The puppet would not dance [6 syllables]

Not bad. PM me the final draft when you complete it. I'd like to read it.