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loser · Mar 13, 2007, 05:49 am

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Are trying to say is we need to have faith that God is truth because we are too much a worthless being to understand if we can trust ourselves? Truthfully, questioning our own fathomability would result in agnosticism, not blind faith. (As in admitting we can't perceive everything but not saying "well it must be God then") I hope I'm not mistaken in interpretting what you say we "should" question.

I'm saying that "blind faith" is just as dangerous in religion as it is in science. We should question EVERYTHING even our own understanding.

The Bible doesn't ask anyone to blindly follow. It says to seek out the truth, search for the answers, PROVE the scriptures. It is leaders (whether religious or government) that want their subjects to follow blindly. God approves those who wrestle with Him and resist Him...that doesn't bother Him.

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Umm, last I checked a kid standing up in class isn't the cause of those deaths. This was the point I was making. When your "Satan" stands up, it is what you claim to be the cause of such deaths of innocent children. And that is why I have a problem with your metaphor.

So who do you think is responsible for these deaths of innocent children? If a government sends troops in to kill these kids, you can blame the powers that be or you can blame the soldiers that carry out the orders. But how about disease and starvation, who is to blame there?

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Besides, I'm talking about the concept of hell, or do you deny it's existence?

As you imagine it to be, yes. The concept of humans eternally tormented in hellfire is NOT taught by the Bible, no matter what you have heard to the contrary.

Ken Carman · Mar 13, 2007, 08:55 pm

Here's another possibility to ponder...

God is whatever color we would least expect, or want, God to be.

pikatore · Mar 13, 2007, 09:41 pm

So.. purple with polka dots, maybe?

Ken Carman · Mar 13, 2007, 09:45 pm

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So.. purple with polka dots, maybe?

If that's what would offend you, or make you marginalize someone: deity or not... then, yes, most likely. If God is what we expect then we do not grow, we don't learn... all necessary requirements for love, and life. The same is true of all relationships worth anything.

Sarah22 · Mar 13, 2007, 10:29 pm

I never thought of God being a particular color...
I've always thought of God an intangible presence.

**Jack** · Mar 13, 2007, 10:36 pm

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If these heavenly bodies ALL formed at the same time, evolution is DISPROVED!

It's obvious that you don't understand the difference between evolution and cosmology, and evolution isn't the topic here anyway. So let's get this thread back on topic and take the evolution discussion to the numerous threads that have been started for that topic.

This thread's about what you perceive the ethnic group to be that your god fits into.

pikatore · Mar 13, 2007, 11:17 pm

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God approves those who wrestle with Him and resist Him...that doesn't bother Him.

Last time I checked, he didn't sent the ten plagues to Egypt because he approved. Rough love, perhaps?

gw120 · Mar 22, 2007, 10:37 pm

God is no color since he doesn't exist, but if he did, since the Bible takes place in the middle east, and Jesus was probably either black or Arab, god's probably black or Arab. That or he could be like the god from Southpark that doesn't even look human. Or maybe he's a she and she's Alanis Morisette, like in Dogma, the greatest movie of all time.

pikatore · Mar 22, 2007, 10:41 pm

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That or he could be like the god from Southpark that doesn't even look human.

You mean the queen spider? :)

ZNFYRH · Mar 23, 2007, 09:19 am

After thinking about this, this thread poses one of the big arguments against Creationism. If Adam was white, then he had to have been created somewhere northerly. Otherwise, God was basically plopping him down in sunburn central.

I wonder how many Creationists are closet racists, uncomfortable with the thought that Adam and Eve were, if anything, black.

gaby10 · Mar 24, 2007, 05:26 pm

Why are we so curious about God's color? Humans have different color: black, white, rousse, brunette, yellow and many others. we cannot based on the fact that they sid that adam was white to say that right away God is white. After they discover that ther were men of different colors, so now we are supposed to think that God is black, yellow or roux?

Ken Carman · Mar 26, 2007, 02:24 pm

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God is no color since he doesn't exist, but if he did, since the Bible takes place in the middle east, and Jesus was probably either black or Arab, god's probably black or Arab. That or he could be like the god from Southpark that doesn't even look human. Or maybe he's a she and she's Alanis Morisette, like in Dogma, the greatest movie of all time.

Hmmm... Dogma. Love it. Makes ya laugh. Makes ya think. Great combination.

Strange Dreamer · Mar 26, 2007, 03:26 pm

Why is it that everything has to be related to the physical state?
It is not possible that when they say 'man was created in the image of God' that it was in fact in a spiritual sense?

This question reminds me of the other variant of asking what gender God is...
I was under the impression that God was a spirit that could take any physical form at any time.

I realize that we are primarily focused on the physical world each day, but that doesn't mean that by ignoring the spiritual aspect that it will simply not exists.

(for any wondering, no I didn't read every post up to this point so I may be repeating what others have already pointed out)

Century 25 · Apr 2, 2007, 02:04 am

He wears tan shoes with pink shoelaces
A polka dot vest and man, oh, man
Tan shoes with pink shoelaces
And a big Panama with a purple hat band..

Seriously though.. empty.. nada.. like.. nothing.. an empty suit.. how can you color a vacuum..??

DEEJ85 · Apr 2, 2007, 02:48 am

I've noticed that in many movies where a God or God-like being is shown, the deity always seems to take the form of a black person. Obviously there is nothing wrong with this because there isn't any reason to have a white (or any other race) more then other options. a deity is just as likely to look any other way.

still, it feels like a PC move to me. If the God or God-like being was portrayed as a white person, naturally many people would be offended and assume that it was done by a white supremest, who probably believes that white people are superior or inheritly closer to being God-like. Is it discrimination or over sensitivity? Are people so defensive that to have such a role applied to a Caucasians is an immediate sign of racial discrimination?

The main movie that I am talking about is "Bruce Almighty."

Another movie I saw that actually took it to the next level and had the God-like being played by a woman who was black (played by Oprah Winfrey). Again there is nothing wrong with this, I just thought it was interesting how they thought to soothe not only racial/ethnic minorities but also managed to appease feminists who might claim a male God to be chauvinistic. This second movie was a Muppet's Christmas special (I do not remember the exact name.

Mar 13, 2007, 08:55 pm	#82 (permalink) (top)
Ken Carman Just plain WEIRD Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,830	Here's another possibility to ponder... God is whatever color we would least expect, or want, God to be. Ken's weekly column... Inspection... on site Inspection... off site.

Mar 13, 2007, 09:41 pm	#83 (permalink) (top)
pikatore A Celestial Monkey Location: In England Posts: 1,613	So.. purple with polka dots, maybe? "Cheese is a kind of meat, a tasty yellow beef" - Mighty Boosh Economic Left/Right: -0.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.38

Mar 22, 2007, 10:37 pm	#88 (permalink) (top)
gw120 Stabbed By Satan Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 247	God is no color since he doesn't exist, but if he did, since the Bible takes place in the middle east, and Jesus was probably either black or Arab, god's probably black or Arab. That or he could be like the god from Southpark that doesn't even look human. Or maybe he's a she and she's Alanis Morisette, like in Dogma, the greatest movie of all time. Economic Left/Right: -9.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 Reality is fantasy; Facts are perception.

Apr 2, 2007, 02:48 am	#95 (permalink) (top)
DEEJ85 Igneous Magma Posts: 261	I've noticed that in many movies where a God or God-like being is shown, the deity always seems to take the form of a black person. Obviously there is nothing wrong with this because there isn't any reason to have a white (or any other race) more then other options. a deity is just as likely to look any other way. still, it feels like a PC move to me. If the God or God-like being was portrayed as a white person, naturally many people would be offended and assume that it was done by a white supremest, who probably believes that white people are superior or inheritly closer to being God-like. Is it discrimination or over sensitivity? Are people so defensive that to have such a role applied to a Caucasians is an immediate sign of racial discrimination? The main movie that I am talking about is "Bruce Almighty." Another movie I saw that actually took it to the next level and had the God-like being played by a woman who was black (played by Oprah Winfrey). Again there is nothing wrong with this, I just thought it was interesting how they thought to soothe not only racial/ethnic minorities but also managed to appease feminists who might claim a male God to be chauvinistic. This second movie was a Muppet's Christmas special (I do not remember the exact name. Beware of Logical Fallacies. See a list of them in the link below. http://home.mcn.net/~montanabw/fallacies.html

Mar 13, 2007, 10:29 pm	#85 (permalink) (top)
Sarah22 Asian Sensation Posts: 153	I never thought of God being a particular color... I've always thought of God an intangible presence.

Mar 23, 2007, 09:19 am	#90 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	After thinking about this, this thread poses one of the big arguments against Creationism. If Adam was white, then he had to have been created somewhere northerly. Otherwise, God was basically plopping him down in sunburn central. I wonder how many Creationists are closet racists, uncomfortable with the thought that Adam and Eve were, if anything, black.

Mar 24, 2007, 05:26 pm	#91 (permalink) (top)
gaby10 Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	Why are we so curious about God's color? Humans have different color: black, white, rousse, brunette, yellow and many others. we cannot based on the fact that they sid that adam was white to say that right away God is white. After they discover that ther were men of different colors, so now we are supposed to think that God is black, yellow or roux?

Mar 26, 2007, 03:26 pm	#93 (permalink) (top)
Strange Dreamer Crazy Poet Location: In a different world Posts: 43	Why is it that everything has to be related to the physical state? It is not possible that when they say 'man was created in the image of God' that it was in fact in a spiritual sense? This question reminds me of the other variant of asking what gender God is... I was under the impression that God was a spirit that could take any physical form at any time. I realize that we are primarily focused on the physical world each day, but that doesn't mean that by ignoring the spiritual aspect that it will simply not exists. (for any wondering, no I didn't read every post up to this point so I may be repeating what others have already pointed out)

Apr 2, 2007, 02:04 am	#94 (permalink) (top)
Century 25 Igneous Magma Location: Southwest desert - Valley of the Sun Posts: 651	He wears tan shoes with pink shoelaces A polka dot vest and man, oh, man Tan shoes with pink shoelaces And a big Panama with a purple hat band.. Seriously though.. empty.. nada.. like.. nothing.. an empty suit.. how can you color a vacuum..??