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Old Feb 14, 2007, 04:10 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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A letter to the Dark forces

It might be interesting to you


There are no Bright forces

All are dark or will become it at some point - they will understand and not understand things

Dark forces were created or allowed to become it for wars of thoughts and forces, for things to go in many ways

If you serve the Dark forces, how can you know you serve them in the Night ?

They allow Dark forces to cause suffer, then they pick some and call it to separate seeds from darnel
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Old Feb 14, 2007, 04:19 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Could you be a bit clearer on what your topic is? What you've provided is hardly debatable without more information.


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Old Feb 14, 2007, 06:10 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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I am likewise a bit "in the dark" about this topic.

(great little intended punn - eh?)

Are we doing a "star wars" thing here with this topic? or Biblical?

If you watch the TV news you would get the impression that dark forces are in full operaton, meaning forces that cause suffering, wars, violence, and nuts who shoot up a shopping mall in Salt lake City, etc.

The dark force even uses religion to promote those crusades of war that they claim are fighting the dark forces, A paradox - and a deception - and deception is the "being" of that force.

But does the force exist at all? We blame some devil when in fact the "devil made me do it" is another falsehood. No devil, no dark force in control. Only us humans who make personal choices out of free will. We are responsible for what we do - not the devil or some dark invader from outer space. Partly because we have avoided awareness which would have prevented those deceptions that resulted in the wars and other problems.

Mental disorders and collective insanity which is supported by a number of media events and historical momentums. But this is just the "stage" of awareness that the majority of people are in. Not caused by any unseen force or principality - but rather something that has been agreed upon by mass opinon as the 'norm".

Meanwhile, rarely reported on the TV news, we have millions of people involved in charity and other good causes - people who will stop and help a lady fix a flat tire on a rainy day, and such people go un-noticed as we patch together our "image" of what they world is like - a perspective that is often managed by a news producer who want to provide a story that will "sell the most copies or get the most viewers".

Right after the famous 9-11 incident we saw how millions of people suddenly joined a united effort to help everyone else. That willingness now seems dorment because it is getting little attention on the news but it is still a dominating factor of human nature, the bight force is very much alive and well in America and around the world. And the praise does not go to the angels on anything "on high" - it is simply the product of people making a choice out of free will. A reaction to the moment at hand.
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Old Feb 14, 2007, 06:13 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I will represent the dark forces, Ask away.


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Old Feb 14, 2007, 06:16 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I will represent the dark forces, Ask away.
Do you think that the bibical and related concepts about the dark forces is what caused white people to think that dark people are "evil" and so forth, like the KKK might advocate?
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Old Feb 14, 2007, 06:19 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I have no idea, but no, no more than star wars makes me want to hate my black friends. Light dark thing is a constantly used metaphor throughout all literature in all times, night, day, simple as that.


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Old Feb 14, 2007, 07:59 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I will represent the dark forces, Ask away.
I am the warrior of light who agonizes over the evil power that resides in me and is in conflict with the light in me.









Or something like that.



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Old Feb 14, 2007, 09:03 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Die Die Die! Horrible denizen of the treacherous light!

O.K., that's probably enough of that.


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 04:45 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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John 3:19-21 And this is the test by which men are judged: the light has come into the world and men have more love for the dark than for the light, because their acts are evil.
The light is hated by everyone whose acts are evil and he does not come to the light for fear that his acts will be seen.
But he whose life is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his acts have been done by the help of God.


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 05:44 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Could you be a bit clearer on what your topic is? What you've provided is hardly debatable without more information.

I tried to make it clear by removing a sentence which wasn't in line with the rest of it

Is it better now ?

More information is around you, you have to work, you have disease and hunger, you become victims of the crimes and no way out of it is given, you can't call for help and no help will arrive

All that while the forces of Light possess miracles and are stronger then the Dark forces

So that's how it's now


There are no Bright forces

All are dark or will become it at some point - they will understand and not understand things

If you serve the Dark forces, how can you know you serve them in the Night ?

The forces of Light allow the Dark forces to cause suffer, then they pick some and call it to separate seeds from darnel
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 08:15 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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HUH? Is this the comic book forum?
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 09:33 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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More information is around you, you have to work, you have disease and hunger, you become victims of the crimes and no way out of it is given, you can't call for help and no help will arrive

All that while the forces of Light possess miracles and are stronger then the Dark forces

So that's how it's now
Okay: we have hunger and disease, and these are evidence of dark forces? We have crime and when we call for help, no help will arrive (apparently we have lost 911) and since the bright forces should be stronger than the dark forces, these things are evidence that the bright forces don't actually exist?

Are you saying that since there is suffering in the world, there is no God?

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There are no Bright forces

All are dark or will become it at some point - they will understand and not understand things
If they will become dark at some point, that means they are light now, doesn't it? What do you mean, "They will understand and not understand things"? Isn't that true of everything? As it includes both sides of the dichotomy, isn't this simply a blank statement?

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If you serve the Dark forces, how can you know you serve them in the Night ?
So without the bright forces, there is no way to define the dark forces? Excellent; then there actually aren't any dark forces, just as there aren't any light forces. We're moving into good ol' atheist territory here.

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The forces of Light allow the Dark forces to cause suffer, then they pick some and call it to separate seeds from darnel
Who is the "they," the light forces or the dark? What do you mean, they pick some and call it? And you said before that the light forces don't exist; how can they allow the dark forces to cause suffering?
Last question: who is Darnel, and why do you hate him so much?


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 01:25 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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the blight?



Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 02:00 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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More information is around you, you have to work, you have disease and hunger, you become victims of the crimes and no way out of it is given, you can't call for help and no help will arrive

All that while the forces of Light possess miracles and are stronger then the Dark forces

So that's how it's now


There are no Bright forces

All are dark or will become it at some point - they will understand and not understand things

If you serve the Dark forces, how can you know you serve them in the Night ?

The forces of Light allow the Dark forces to cause suffer, then they pick some and call it to separate seeds from darnel
Is this some sort of riddle? What can i win?
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 02:17 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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I am a warrior of the light! I dispel those of darkness who speak in riddles and generalities.

Be gone darkness, find the light.


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 02:53 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I am a warrior of the light! I dispel those of darkness who speak in riddles and generalities.

Be gone darkness, find the light.
Hey, rock! What division are you? I'm in the tenth.



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John 3:19-21 And this is the test by which men are judged: the light has come into the world and men have more love for the dark than for the light, because their acts are evil.
The light is hated by everyone whose acts are evil and he does not come to the light for fear that his acts will be seen.
But he whose life is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his acts have been done by the help of God.
The Bible uses the same archetype that star wars and pretty much every other story with good and evil does.


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 04:19 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Don't you mean the other way around?



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Old Feb 15, 2007, 04:38 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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If you watch the TV news you would get the impression that dark forces are in full operaton, meaning forces that cause suffering, wars, violence, and nuts who shoot up a shopping mall in Salt lake City, etc.

The dark force even uses religion to promote those crusades of war that they claim are fighting the dark forces, A paradox - and a deception - and deception is the "being" of that force.

But does the force exist at all? We blame some devil when in fact the "devil made me do it" is another falsehood. No devil, no dark force in control. Only us humans who make personal choices out of free will. We are responsible for what we do - not the devil or some dark invader from outer space. Partly because we have avoided awareness which would have prevented those deceptions that resulted in the wars and other problems.

Mental disorders and collective insanity which is supported by a number of media events and historical momentums. But this is just the "stage" of awareness that the majority of people are in. Not caused by any unseen force or principality - but rather something that has been agreed upon by mass opinon as the 'norm".

Meanwhile, rarely reported on the TV news, we have millions of people involved in charity and other good causes - people who will stop and help a lady fix a flat tire on a rainy day, and such people go un-noticed as we patch together our "image" of what they world is like - a perspective that is often managed by a news producer who want to provide a story that will "sell the most copies or get the most viewers".

Right after the famous 9-11 incident we saw how millions of people suddenly joined a united effort to help everyone else. That willingness now seems dorment because it is getting little attention on the news but it is still a dominating factor of human nature, the bight force is very much alive and well in America and around the world. And the praise does not go to the angels on anything "on high" - it is simply the product of people making a choice out of free will. A reaction to the moment at hand.

There are Dark and Light forces

For you it is similar to the question is somebody out there

Your worlds is a Game of War between the Light and Dark forces


Most humans have very weak minds, they believe in things like communism, they believe in God and they don't understand things that would ruin it

Both Dark and Light forces use it, they penetrate ideas, religions and ideologies


Can you answer why different people make different choices ?

To make your choice according to your free will, first the contents of the consciousness must be in place

This makes your choice to be a subject of the contents

It can be, there is no free will, the few things which are given to us is understanding, things that answer in us and lucky contents that we expand or proceed
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 04:40 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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HUH? Is this the comic book forum?

And why do you say this ?

Don't you have 3 major religions with Gods on Earth ?

Did they fall from the sky ?
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