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Old Feb 15, 2007, 04:56 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Okay: we have hunger and disease, and these are evidence of dark forces? We have crime and when we call for help, no help will arrive (apparently we have lost 911) and since the bright forces should be stronger than the dark forces, these things are evidence that the bright forces don't actually exist?

Are you saying that since there is suffering in the world, there is no God?
Hunger and diseases mean the forces of Light aren't light

I think I should say "The Bright forces aren't bright" instead of "There are no Bright forces"


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If they will become dark at some point, that means they are light now, doesn't it? What do you mean, "They will understand and not understand things"? Isn't that true of everything? As it includes both sides of the dichotomy, isn't this simply a blank statement?
If they become dark at some point you will quickly forget they were light

They will understand and not understand certain things, it is not something in general

You can see it is not something in general if you try to tell them things

Did God answer any thought of anyone ever ?


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Who is the "they," the light forces or the dark? What do you mean, they pick some and call it? And you said before that the light forces don't exist; how can they allow the dark forces to cause suffering?
Last question: who is Darnel, and why do you hate him so much?
Read the Apocalypse forecast in the Bible, it is stated there just as I said

Overall, the general approach of Light to the suffer is that suffer is mean of reaching the wisdom and brightness
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 05:22 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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And why do you say this ?

Don't you have 3 major religions with Gods on Earth ?

Did they fall from the sky ?
Perhaps you should check again. This statement alone puts you alone,

Open you mind eye and see the light. Or at least do a recount.


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Old Feb 15, 2007, 07:08 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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Don't you mean the other way around?
Well, ya, the Bible came first of the examples presented, but it was by no means the first writing to use light vs. dark, I've read a hindu creation story using the same archetypes, the similarities between that story and genesis were actually markable.


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Old Feb 17, 2007, 12:27 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Perhaps you should check again. This statement alone puts you alone,

Open you mind eye and see the light. Or at least do a recount.

I count only Christianity, Judaism, and Islam

Forces behind these religions play the major role
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Old Feb 18, 2007, 12:58 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
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And I thought he was talking about the Novel and film "Night Watch" (Ночной дозор)


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Old Feb 18, 2007, 08:56 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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And I thought he was talking about the Novel and film "Night Watch" (Ночной дозор)

I respect your forum very much, I found here very clever people, if you see the thread as one not so good for the forum, you may delete it, it's Ok

The problem is you are very far from the Christian religion, you don't know it dogmas, so you don't understand what am I talking about

There are no Bright forces, they are Dark for Light

For the Light the suffer is a tool that leads to wisdom and brightness
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Old Feb 18, 2007, 08:15 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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I tried to make it clear by removing a sentence which wasn't in line with the rest of it

Is it better now ?

More information is around you, you have to work, you have disease and hunger, you become victims of the crimes and no way out of it is given, you can't call for help and no help will arrive

All that while the forces of Light possess miracles and are stronger then the Dark forces

So that's how it's now


There are no Bright forces

All are dark or will become it at some point - they will understand and not understand things

If you serve the Dark forces, how can you know you serve them in the Night ?

The forces of Light allow the Dark forces to cause suffer, then they pick some and call it to separate seeds from darnel
I can arrange a meeting.
How about that ?
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 09:01 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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I respect your forum very much, I found here very clever people, if you see the thread as one not so good for the forum, you may delete it, it's Ok

The problem is you are very far from the Christian religion, you don't know it dogmas, so you don't understand what am I talking about

There are no Bright forces, they are Dark for Light

For the Light the suffer is a tool that leads to wisdom and brightness
No I hope you didn't take that as an insult. Once you get to know us all you will find we joke with each other often. And your thread doesn't have to be removed -only at your request. Especially not because we consider it to be a "Bad" thread.

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Old Feb 19, 2007, 09:49 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
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I'm just really not sure wht it's about, but I'm having fun representing the dark forces.


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Old Feb 19, 2007, 10:01 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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No I hope you didn't take that as an insult. Once you get to know us all you will find we joke with each other often. And your thread doesn't have to be removed -only at your request. Especially not because we consider it to be a "Bad" thread.

Continue to feel free posting.

I asked rcne to remove the thread, I'll start a new one, I hope all will be clear there

It will go like this


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There are no Bright forces, they are Suffer for Light

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You have to work, you have disease and hunger, you become victims of the crimes and no way out of it is given, you can't call for help and no help will arrive

All that while the forces of Light possess miracles

More, they allow the Dark forces to cause suffer


There are no Bright forces, they are Suffer for Light

For the Light the sufferings are means which lead to wisdom and brightness


Please delete this thread

I need to start another thread because this post will be lost among the other ones and people will continue to reply to everything else
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 10:26 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not sure that's much clearer or worthy of a new thread. Perhaps if you forsook the poetic language and put your contention in simple terms we'd get a better idea of what you want to discuss.

For instance, are you proposing that religions do more harm than good?


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Old Feb 19, 2007, 05:16 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not sure that's much clearer or worthy of a new thread. Perhaps if you forsook the poetic language and put your contention in simple terms we'd get a better idea of what you want to discuss.

For instance, are you proposing that religions do more harm than good?

No, I don't mean it

I wished to say exactly this

There are no Bright forces, they are Sufferings for Light forces

For the Light the sufferings are means which cause one to rise

If you talk to Christians and ask them why there is suffer in the world and God does nothing about it, you will understand what I mean
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 10:53 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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If you talk to Christians and ask them why there is suffer in the world and God does nothing about it, you will understand what I mean
Suffering applies to all the people, reagrdless of religious or non-religious approach.
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 11:09 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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If you talk to Christians...
I was one and I still don't know what you mean about bright forces, light forces, etc. Christians will tell you variations of, "suffering is a test of faith, it's god's will, it's caused by our sinful nature". You perceive suffering as a "bad" thing whereas most Christians don't...unless they're the ones suffering.


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Old Feb 20, 2007, 02:51 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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I was one and I still don't know what you mean about bright forces, light forces, etc. Christians will tell you variations of, "suffering is a test of faith, it's god's will, it's caused by our sinful nature". You perceive suffering as a "bad" thing whereas most Christians don't...unless they're the ones suffering.

I think I defined the Light good

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"suffering is a test of faith, it's god's will, it's caused by our sinful nature". You perceive suffering as a "bad" thing whereas most Christians don't...
I think this means exactly what I said, they are Sufferings for Light forces
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Old Feb 20, 2007, 03:50 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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Old Feb 20, 2007, 04:23 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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The lantern in and of itself is not bright. But when the grime and dirt are removed from the panes of glass and a candle is placed inside, we call that lantern a light, and the light is as part of the nature of the lantern.

Darkness, by its very nature, is the state of not being light. This can take many forms, but all of them can be dispersed by the presence of light.

The light is the home of those who do not hide.

Not all suffering is productive. There is a fine line between doing surgery upon the heart and brutalizing it with a knife. There are many kinds of cuts. Many are not beneficial. Some can become infected and endanger the entire body. All results are dependent upon the individual, but can be helped or hampered by those around him/her.



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Old Feb 20, 2007, 04:53 am   #38 (permalink) (top)
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I was one and I still don't know what you mean about bright forces, light forces, etc. Christians will tell you variations of, "suffering is a test of faith, it's god's will, it's caused by our sinful nature". You perceive suffering as a "bad" thing whereas most Christians don't...unless they're the ones suffering.

I think I managed to express it better

There are no Bright forces, they are forces of Sufferings for mental and spiritual rising
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Old Feb 20, 2007, 04:54 am   #39 (permalink) (top)
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The lantern in and of itself is not bright. But when the grime and dirt are removed from the panes of glass and a candle is placed inside, we call that lantern a light, and the light is as part of the nature of the lantern.

Darkness, by its very nature, is the state of not being light. This can take many forms, but all of them can be dispersed by the presence of light.

The light is the home of those who do not hide.

Not all suffering is productive. There is a fine line between doing surgery upon the heart and brutalizing it with a knife. There are many kinds of cuts. Many are not beneficial. Some can become infected and endanger the entire body. All results are dependent upon the individual, but can be helped or hampered by those around him/her.

This is exactly what I mean when I say there are no Bright forces, they are forces of Sufferings for mental and spiritual rising

Do humans look like lanterns to give you light ?

Do humans look like subjects for housekeeping ?

Do lanterns feel, do they think ?

Your comparisons use mismatching things

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