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Old Oct 9, 2003, 11:06 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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I just drafted this up. I would like to hear your feedback. I will post updated versions from time to time.

Divisionism

There is no higher power or “God” that exist. Instead many Gods exist, each inside a person. Your God is created by you, and therefore made in your ideal image. This God is divided into three portions:

Part I: Aspirations
The part of this God is to help to keep us moving. It pushes us forward, with our own personal goals. It’s what makes us get up and stop from killing ourselves.

Part II: Freedom
This portion of God helps us decide and choose our actions. It helps to remove the fetters of conformity, and to break through society’s iron curtain. Freedom must first be gained form within if it is ever to be established correctly in physical life.

Part III: Humility
The purpose of humility is to achieve harmony with nature, and with society. A life without humility leads to egotism. With egotism it leads to making yourself feel more important than others. Henceforth, egotists are less likely to value other’s lives as much as theirs.

Along with the three Gods, comes three anti-Gods. This makes up the anti-God portion of your spiritual being.

Part I: Hopelessness
Hopelessness destroys your goals dreams and aspirations. They allow you to succumb to violent acts, even suicide and murder. This eventually leads to the utter destruction of your spiritual being, and finally your physical being as well.

Part II: Fear
Right now, almost all are governed by fear. Without freedom, you actions are no longer decided by what’s right. They are decided by your fears. Fear is also part of the main destruction of the spiritual being, the corruption and bondage that follows in its wake. Right now many religions are founded by fear. Christianity and Catholicism are just two examples of minds kept in bondage.

Part III: Egotism
One must aim to achieve harmony. Egotism repels you from that, creating a world where your problems are much more important than others. Egotism can also take form in another being. For example monotheism is the egotism in God. The belief that God is great and God is all powerful does nothing but hurt those who are ailing.

Cornerstones of Divisionism:

Harmony
Divisionists seek to create a beautiful and harmonious world, without sacrificing their beliefs. Harmony in Divisionism is described as being on and in tune with nature and society. This is the first step towards freedom.

Peace
A peaceful society only cultivates freedom, so this must be achieved. We are all slaves to violence. Peace is also necessary to achieve freedom.

Well, please comment with your thoughts.
Shalom
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:30 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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greed is good, the egocentric predicament is all that can be known... the outer "world" is a creation of ones mind...

god remains dead...


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insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:31 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Impenitent, could you please clarify your comments.
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:40 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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not really...

greed is good...

the egocentric predicament is all (if anything can be) that can be known... (everything else is a thing in itself)

the outer world (that which is not I) is a creation of ones mind... without ones mind, the outer world doesn't exist

god remains dead... metaphysics are still impossible to believe

I thought you were a communist? what use have you for god? another opiate?


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insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:43 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Greed only paves the way for slavery, please post why you believe greed is good.
Your correct on the outer world.
Yes God does remain dead.
First of all I used God for lack of a better word, I could've called him Dave. Not all communists are aethiests. I enjoy your usage of God as a tool.

How are your feelings on divisionism (I would like to get a census)
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:50 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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greed works for the self which is the only thing that there is...

divisionism? as in duality? it is a fiction...

I am one thing and that is I... no need to divide it

popeye philosophy... I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam...


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 07:53 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Divisionism is the title of my thesis. Your spiritual entity is molded into different parts. My mind tells me others are suffering, and my mind also informs me that others have minds as well. Henceforth I'm obligated to help those minds in need.
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 09:31 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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pure spirituality is pure lie... there is no such thing as spiritual entity... how can your mind tell you others are suffering?
you did agree that the outer world was a creation of your mind...
the others are in the outer world which you created
you create the suffering...
obligated to help?
how? are you going to get rid of that which creates the suffering?


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 09:50 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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A describe part of my cerebrum as my spiritual entity. I'm obligated to ease the suffering, after one has achieved freedom and harmony life is no longer suffering.
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 09:53 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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no, you missed the point of the argument...

you create the outer world
you create the suffering

freedom and harmony life?

you create the suffering

how are you going to ease the suffering that you create?


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 09:56 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Hmmmmmmm, I wouldn't say that I created the outer world. I would just say that my sensory output and mind tell me it exists, sorry for the unclarification. I will ease suffering by providing people with equality, freedom, and a life. Freedom and harmony, known in Buddhism as the ultimate truth, is the key to ending the suffering.

P.S. Do you think that you have any reason for living.
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Old Oct 10, 2003, 07:16 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Life exists. Reason is part of life. Without reason this statement would not exist (so my reason tells me) so the positing of any other entity apart from reason is superfluous. The only significant thing that reason tells me is "I exist". Reason exists in life like the tail of a comet.
Oh yeah,
"What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence."
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Old Oct 10, 2003, 12:04 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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8,
1. how will you control the actions of others? what if they want to suffer? how can you know?
2. no, the key to ending suffering is to follow the 8 fold path and it is a personal choice...

ps. the only reason I live is because I want to...


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Old Oct 10, 2003, 07:21 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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following the eight fold path leads to the ultimate truth
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Old Oct 11, 2003, 08:20 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Anyways, getting back onto topic, I think I might revise my theory soon. Until then, please comment on it, I would like som feedback.
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Old Oct 11, 2003, 10:58 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I had a question actually, what did you realize when you said he used 'god as a tool'? God remains dead? I don't really see whats between the lines here. God in your reference = self?
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Old Oct 11, 2003, 11:19 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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The church uses God as a tool to enforce their own political agenda. God as a higher power remains dead.
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Old Oct 12, 2003, 12:01 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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oh i see, i thought you were referring to your definition of God.

thanks.
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Old Oct 12, 2003, 12:23 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Self interest is the only alternative to death. Because w/o ambition nothing is ever created. Greed is what those w/o call the ambition of those with, a false word just like altruism.
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Old Oct 12, 2003, 01:58 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Asspirations and ambitions are the same. What do you think GWB?
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