Scientific Reasoning Confirms God's Existence.....

[rez]

Quote by: namguy69 I keep my faith to myself, unless there's another whom has faith in Christ. For me to try and explain faith to you would be, as you know, a waste of your time and mine. We both know that. As for negativity, all I asked for was a tangible explaination that science should be able to provide.

I am more interested to know why you believe in one religion, but not the others.

[ZNFYRH]

The important thing is feeling that your expression of faith won't be criticized. I would hate for someone to ask me why I believe in one religion and not others, only to be faced with aggressive negativity about being hypocritical or being a baby-killer or some such business.

namguy, I edited the post you quoted, so if you'd like to re-read #219 that would be great.

rez, I also share your curiosity. I just hope your inquiry isn't motivated by a need to put someone down for something they hold personal.

[namguy69]

Quote by: ZNFYRH The important thing is feeling that your expression of faith won't be criticized. I would hate for someone to ask me why I believe in one religion and not others, only to be faced with aggressive negativity about being hypocritical or being a baby-killer or some such business. namguy, I edited the post you quoted, so if you'd like to re-read #219 that would be great. rez, I also share your curiosity. I just hope your inquiry isn't motivated by a need to put someone down for something they hold personal.

I never ment to, and would never put anyone down for any belief they might have. The people on here know nothing about me, I know nothing about them so what they say about me, I can't really get up set about it, it's all for not. I prefer to keep my beliefs to myself. I don't care if 'john doe' is a Buddhist, Hindu, whatever, that's their business, I follow what I believe and that's it.

[anak]

Only one of TGs reasons hasn't been refuted, relative to his other claims.
That is, that the universe has been perfectly ordered in such a perfect way that it had to be divinely created.

Can some one with a higher knowledge of physics and cosmology please explain how in our universe the ratio between the collective momentum of each galaxy and the collective gravity of each galaxy equals 1;

Thus causing our universe to expand increasingly slower (think of an asymptote at y=0 of a graph, with y=speed and x=time), but nevertheless not be doomed to over-expansion or the Big Crunch.

You must at least acknowledge the tendency of one with the knowledge of only elementary physics (i.e. the majority of the population) to assume that the universe must have been created by a supreme being. To them, it seems ridiculous to still believe there is not creator when the odds of an ordered universe to arise is so small.

To reiterate, can some one explain this phenomenon? I am thinking the reason may be that there are an infinite number of universe in different "realities" that overlap this universe somehow; and that our universe were one of the lucky one whose Big Bang was able to get the said ratio close enough to 1. That may or may not be the case, tho.

Notice I am not advocating for either sides. I just want to learn.

[rez]

Quote by: anak Only one of TGs reasons hasn't been refuted, relative to his other claims. That is, that the universe has been perfectly ordered in such a perfect way that it had to be divinely created.

I don't see how the universe was created in a perfectly ordered way. I see the universe as a complex and chaotic system. In reality, simplicity would be more of a indication that the universe was divinely created.

Order can arise from a less ordered system as long as it is on an energy boundary. It is called non-equilibrium thermodynamics. QED/QM have at their very core the idea that nature is intrinsically random.

[anak]

Quote by: rez I don't see how the universe was created in a perfectly ordered way. I see the universe as a complex and chaotic system.

What about the Anthropic principle? Complexity and Chaos should not go hand in hand. How is the universe chaotic exactly?

Quote by: rez In reality, simplicity would be more of a indication that the universe was divinely created.

A simplistic universe would be boring and hardly fun to live in. Then again there would be less unhappiness. I think I understand your point.

Order can arise from a less ordered system as long as it is on an energy boundary. It is called non-equilibrium thermodynamics. QED/QM have at their very core the idea that nature is intrinsically random.[/quote]
Can you elaborate or provide a link?

[rez]

Quote by: anak What about the Anthropic principle? Complexity and Chaos should not go hand in hand. How is the universe chaotic exactly? A simplistic universe would be boring and hardly fun to live in. Then again there would be less unhappiness. I think I understand your point. Order can arise from a less ordered system as long as it is on an energy boundary. It is called non-equilibrium thermodynamics. QED/QM have at their very core the idea that nature is intrinsically random.

Can you elaborate or provide a link?[/quote]

The double-slit experiment

Getting Started with Quantum

it seems as though God does play dice...

[Yasa]

Also, who are we to say that the universe is perfect? We are meerely humans compared to a god. Besides, we have nothing to compare our universe against, only our own observations. Since we are bound by our human perception, it's quite impossible to believe things to be more ordered than what already seems perfect. Saying the universe is perfect and "must be the product of intelligent design" seems very, very ignorant to me.

And, like rez pointed out--it holds randomness to it.