Unprovable Atheistic Evolutionary Notions

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Lullaby Chainer Don't feed the troll. He's been doing this forever.. ignore him.

Dearest Chain-head,

I've been doing this forever because no one can beat me.

Having The Winning Argument is not being a "troll," it's being the Gladiator-the one still standing when the match is over. That other guy over there lying motionless on the ground, face full of blood and sand--that's the Atheistic Godless-Origin Evolutionist Argument.

Survival of the Fittest.

Any arguments from the Chain-head, or just more comments from the peanut gallery?

How silent you all have become in the presence of the Truth.

Short sentence replies, insults.

Your Goliath has had his head cut off and he cannot speak.

You all have lost the dabate.

Go home and cry to Darwin, Gould (currently in Hell), Harris and Dawkins, hey?

Jesus Rocks!!

[Paleface2500]

Quote by: Isherwood If you live in the U.S., where 80% or so of the citizens claim to be religious, I find this hard to accept. Unless you make a point of going places where you know your opinions aren't welcome (which does not include Volconvo, BTW), I'd expect the majority of people to agree with you.

Hmmm... Agreed, but some people will shun there faiths and or beliefs if it does not conform to the status quo. Yet others will deny it or even gang up on you despite sharing the same belief if it means they will gain acceptance, if only for a minute or so.

[littlebear]

It seems we have two debates going on here -- Is there a God and which is correct creationism or evolution. As to the first, it can and has been proven. Plato and Aristotle arrived, purely by irrefutable logic, there had to be a "prime mover." When I was eleven, I asked my mother where God came from. She replied that he had parents and one was named Titus. I then asked where Titus came from. She replied, "Get out of here and go play." Ten minutes later while sitting on my front porch, I logically came to the same conclusion. If A came from B, where did B come from? How many iterations of this exercixe does one have to go through before one realizes someone or something always existed. There is no other conclusion. An Eternal being logically and irrefutably proven. From that being all else sprang. Now that we know what happened, all we have to do is give the eternal being a name. I call Him God.

Evolutionists beg the question. They want to begin in the middle of history. As preiviously stated here, they want to postulate how certain elements came together under certain conditions and presto, life sprang forth. Maybe, but where did the elements come from? Following the same logical thought process as I previously set forth, you can only come to one conclusion, from the eternal being. Whether you want to say that He made certain elements and created just the right circumstances to create life, or that He created all from the dust of the earth, you cannot logically deny it came from Him.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: pahl Ferrous Cranus, definently. You will always be a winner in your own mind, so further arguing will only be wasted on you. Im off to try and teach a rock how to swim.

And you are not a winner in your own mind?

Shame...

If you get that rock to swim, I will reconsider evolution.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Paleface2500 Well I have not read every post so I will try an not comment. What I do know is this guy is defending himself by himself and I find that admirable. As a theist I am used to being ganged up on so naturally, it is refreshing to see someone hold is own. What i find amusing is anytime some starts to lose an argument, be theist, atheist whatever, they always result to insults and accusations. You can always tell who is loosing. They are the ones who contribute nothing to the argument, only sarcasm, quips and irrelevant dialog.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Paleface! :)

-Kimosabe

[Jack]

Evolutionists beg the question. They want to begin in the middle of history. As preiviously stated here, they want to postulate how certain elements came together under certain conditions and presto, life sprang forth.

At least address the correct science. Evolution addresses adaptations and differentiation in species. It does not attempt to explain how life came to be.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: RickSp Chronologically, perhaps.

Yoda said, "Age matters not. Judge me by my size, do you? And well you should not."

You should listen to Yoda, even though he's an "imaginary friend" made of plastic and fantasy, he's smarter than you.

If a four-year-old said, "Evolutionary theory is valid science," would you agree with him, or check his I.D. card?

So then, age has nothing to do with it, then, does it?

Do you people ever tell the truth, or just keep switching your bases, lying and falsely insulting?

Your father is the father of lies, and he approves.

[Lullaby Chainer]

Quote by: KillerArgument Yoda said, "Age matters not. Judge me by my size, do you? And well you should not." You should listen to Yoda, even though he's an "imaginary friend" made of plastic and fantasy, he's smarter than you. If a four-year-old said, "Evolutionary theory is valid science," would you agree with him, or check his I.D. card? So then, age has nothing to do with it, then, does it? Do you people ever tell the truth, or just keep switching your bases, lying and falsely insulting? Your father is the father of lies, and he approves.

Actually, it does have something to do with it. It's an explanation, to ease curiosity. If we were to find out you were.. like.. 7, our curiosity would be at ease as things would be explained. That's all.

[Jack]

The very first thing you do when registering for Volconvo is state your date of birth. There is an age limit to this forum, as there is on most forums. Those who lie when registering would be eligible to have their accounts closed.

So yes, it does make a difference.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Lullaby Chainer No, proper debating means you use arguments and address other arguments accordingly. It's also nice if you don't declare yourself the victor with every post. It's almost scary to see you do that.. and to capitalize your name as a noun. O.o You're allowed. You haven't done anything that's not allowed. You're just annoying and you don't know how to debate, that's all. As I see it, you're acting like some crazy guy in the stands of a gladiator's tournaments shouting he's supreme with his cardboard blade and armor. This is even more proof that you don't know where you are. Show some respect. You aren't at church. You can't preach and screw any arguments and expect us to respond to your childish self-mockery. What argument is this? You have opinions. You haven't shown you can argue yet. That would require an argument to kill in the first place. Not whining. Just deeply concerned for your well-being. Currently our arguments are alone here. Wow, this sounds like the dark side. The "Killer Argument" my gosh. Are you trying to be funny? If not, I'm really sorry it's come to this. If so, it is funny.. but please quite it. It's getting old. This is an example of what your "Killer Arguments" have been. God exists, I win. Careful now, you're insulting countless minds greater than anyone on this board, including the god warrior here. No, this person believes in science. Nice argument there, pal. "This person believes in miracles." Oh.. ok? Where's the argument? Hint: define miracle and define evolution from a real dictionary. Then show relationships between the definitions and present them here. Thanks. See above. There's nothing to refute. You haven't made an argument yet, and you've been disrespectful to what a debate is since you got here. Link us to the forum. Give us your screen name there. Or shut up and stop gloating about your false godly ego. Christ.. I can't even continue. This is really depressing. For the respectable theists here, just know we as a board don't generalize Christians from people like KillerArgument.

Please don't take the Lord's Name in vain, your torment in Hell will only be worse.

You have offered no refutation to my two arguments.

Please take Isherwood and leave my thread, defeated.

--Darth Vader

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood The very first thing you do when registering for Volconvo is state your date of birth. There is an age limit to this forum, as there is on most forums. Those who lie when registering would be eligible to have their accounts closed. So yes, it does make a difference.

Isherwood, is your mind capable of identifying truth?

I DID NOT LIE ABOUT MY AGE WHILE REGISTERING FOR THIS FORUM.

There was a :) after my assertion of being four years old.

So you can't tell I'm not 4?

Joking isn't allowed?

These falsely neutral forums always come down to this kind of thing when unfair liars like yourself can't win fairly.

Funny that people who don't believe in God suddenly want to lay down the Law. Who are you, really, Moses?

Are you lying about your identity? :)

[Jack]

This thread is not a debate, thus it belongs in another forum.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood At least address the correct science. Evolution addresses adaptations and differentiation in species. It does not attempt to explain how life came to be.

Why do you keep repeating this lie?

Here, let me refute it again for you:

Evolutionary ORIGINS, (not Adaptation), which are what I started this thread addressing, comprise the Godless Big Bang, the Primordial Campbell's Soup, and that first primitive life form climbing out of the swamp with a big grin and waving, after it was hit by lightning and miraculously came to life. Who is there who has heard of Evolutionary Origins, doesn't know that this is the explanation of origins? ANSWER ME.

Liars like yourself keep redefining things so you don't have to lose the argument.

Liars like you are so hooked on the Killer Argument that you cannot stop posting after you promised to endeavor to do so.

You are a liar, and the proof of your lies is permalinked in this forum on my posts.

You have lost this argument. Please stop posting now, as you promised.

You are a liar.

Why not come to Jesus, the Truth?

[RickSp]

Quote by: KillerArgument Liars like yourself keep redefining things so you don't have to lose the argument. Liars like you are so hooked on the Killer Argument that you cannot stop posting after you promised to endeavor to do so. You are a liar, and the proof of your lies is permalinked in this forum on my posts. You have lost this argument. Please stop posting now, as you promised. You are a liar. Why not come to Jesus, the Truth?

Now that the thread has been moved to "Miscellaneous" I am allowed to speak more candidly.

Anyone who proselytizes by claiming that others are liars, is a fool.

Anyone who thinks that the repetition of silly assertion is an argument, is a fool.

Anyone who thinks that the purpose of debate is winning or losing rather than expressing one's perspective, is a fool.

Anyone who rants about evolution not being science while clearly having not the first clue about either, is a fool.

You sir, are a fool.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood This thread is not a debate, thus it belongs in another forum.

Wow, and a smart guy like you took this long to figure out that this was not a debate? (Even though it of course is.)

1) A debate is "an argument or reasoning between persons of different opinions."

I think we certainly have that here.

When I STARTED THIS THREAD, it was my intention to have others try to debate my irrefutable points.

Now that you can't win, you want to throw your weight around with rules that would never matter if you were winning. You are unfair and you are liar.

"You can't win, Ish. If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

"Your powers are weak, old man."

[Jack]

This is Miscellaneous, not General Discussion. Insults are still against forum rules here.

DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS THREAD TO THE PRECEDING MESSAGE. Please contact a member of the staff privately if you have any questions.

[Lullaby Chainer]

Killer, I challenged you to a private, head to head debate. Please check your private messages for the details.

Edit: ok, you replied. (give me a minute to come up with an essay)

[Chris the Chees]

Killer Argument; your claims to have provided these points, which make your position unassailable, are untrue. I have read every post in this thread, and I am afraid that any points you have raised have either been ridiculous, shown to be false or countered by arguments that are equally valid. I suggest you step down from your pedestal and actually try and debate these people you claim to have wiped the floor with, before you dig your self further into the hole you find your self in.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Chris the Chees Killer Argument; your claims to have provided these points, which make your position unassailable, are untrue. I have read every post in this thread, and I am afraid that any points you have raised have either been ridiculous, shown to be false or countered by arguments that are equally valid. I suggest you step down from your pedestal and actually try and debate these people you claim to have wiped the floor with, before you dig your self further into the hole you find your self in.

Your bias is showing, Chris.

I am not in a hole, but on top of the mountain.

Who are you to assign what is "true" and what is not?

Please don't be "afraid' if you think that I am ridiculous.

No one showed anything I said to be false.

I will not step down from my pedestal--I must be torn from it.

This is a debate.

Go back and read the thread again, and you will see that I won, fair and square, with logical arguments that were never refuted.

With your lack of objectivity, maybe you should step down as a moderator.

What about all the times I was insulted before I retaliated? Did any of your atheist/evolutionist friends get any infractions?

OK, Chris, here's my challenge to you, showing all on this forum that YOU are dishonest also: show me the places in this thread where I was I "shown to be false."

Chris, you are dishonest and unworthy of the position you hold.

[Osborn F Enready]

I hear violins.....