Unprovable Atheistic Evolutionary Notions

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood Both statements are wrong. Atheists, who know better than theists what they believe and don't believe, have corrected that misconception numerous times. Biologists, who know better than a creationist what evolution is, have corrected that misstatement numerous times. We respect your right to believe anything you want. Why do you persist in refusing to also respect the knowledge of those closer to the topic than yourself? It seems no one's opinion counts but yours.

Why does it seem that way to you? Because I refuse to kow-tow to your lies and unfounded statements?

What arrogance to say these people are "closer to the topic" than you or I? How so?

How wrong to call me a "troll" because I maintain two arguments that cannot and have not been refuted, and that are at the heart of these controversies.

Why would I respect lies?

Jesus has the truth and anything that opposes it is not to be respected, but condemned as false.

[Jack]

What arrogance to say these people are "closer to the topic" than you or I? How so?

An atheist certainly knows more about their point-of-view than a theist . Likewise a biologist who has actually studied evolution knows more about it than a creationist.
Since you're so absolute in your opinions, what are you doing in a debate forum? It's obvious you have no intention of properly debating anyone.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood An atheist certainly knows more about their point-of-view than a theist . Likewise a biologist who has actually studied evolution knows more about it than a creationist. Since you're so absolute in your opinions, what are you doing in a debate forum? It's obvious you have no intention of properly debating anyone.

Dearest Isherwood,

Some atheists on this forum do not know very much about the untenable position they try to hold, so you are wrong about that one.

How am I supposed to be impressed if a biologist studies his own belief system, held by faith?

By "properly debating," do you mean that I should cooperate and lose to you, even though I have the winning Killer Argument?

Micro-evolution (adaptation) is a scientifically provable fact.

Macro-evolution, on the other hand, (a fish to a giraffe), has not been shown, and is NOT provable science. In fact, it is not "science" at all.

I defer to a biologist's knowledge of scientifically provable biology--his field. I do not defer to his fossil fantasies and unscientific and godless pet theories of the origin of life from non-life.

Am I not allowed on a debate forum if I am absolute in my views?

I like to enter a debate forum like a gladiator, with the winning argument, kill all opposing arguments, and leave--the victor.

My assertions have been brought forth in proper logical and debate form as arguments. You have brought nothing forth to strike them down.

If you have something you feel can kill my arguments--bring it.

Please stop whining that I am winning, and that you cannot win.

The Coliseum is not fair--it is the survival of the fittest argument here. You are not in possession of it.

Or, if you can't beat the Killer Argument, why not join him?

An atheist claims to have "no faith in a god or Gods" that nevertheless may exist. There is not much to know about the position. This is NOT a faith, agreed.

If you have no faith in the God who exists, ok. This is NOT a faith.

If you claim not to know that God exists, you are an agnostic, ok This is NOT a faith.

If you claim, however, that "there is no God" this is a position that can only be held by faith, as it is an unprovable position. This called "strong atheism." (Strong atheism is for the weak-minded, unintellectual, and ignorant among us--like yourself.)

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A person who believes, (unscientifically, and without the proof of the results of scientific experimentation) that life arose from non-life without God, this person believes in miracles, while claiming to believe in science.

My only points are to show that both Christians and evolutionistic- origin atheists both believe in things by faith, and both believe in miracles.

This is a correct and irrefutable argument that has, in fact, not been refuted in this forum. It has been refined through losses, setbacks and brutal arguing in other debate forums. I was kicked off one atheistic forum because my arguments could not be killed. Now, I come to kill your arguments that stand in opposition to these. These arguments cannot lose because they are TRUTH. Experiments about some guy making dead chemicals in his lab do not prove that life came from non-life.

One link I will read: link me to a site that shows that a scientist made life from non-life, and you win the argument #2 (but not argument #1). I have given you a way to falsify my argument and win the debate, which is more than the lies, insults and deception you have offered me.

Let's debate: I can't wait to see you all lose again.

~~~

Beyond this debate:

1) Life is a miracle.

Life is intelligent.

Life is intelligent, or you are admitting that you are not intelligent.

God created life and intelligence and consciousness, and the human eye, brain, beautiful women, and the earth and galaxies, and bald eagles, whales and giraffes and zebras. This overwhelming and irrefutable evidence God shoves in your unbelieving face--every single day of your unbelieving life.

2) There is an absolute moral law.

3) Every human breaks the moral law.

4) Death is coming for us all.

5) The judgment of God the Creator is coming for those who reject God's one and only way to get out God's judgment on sin (Hell): Jesus' death on the cross for sin.

These are matters of faith, not debate.

I cannot prove that God exists--it's a matter of faith.

You have hereby been warned by God through me.

You are the one who will stand before God with your sins, and your rejection of His evidence: His creation.

God in His Word says that you, and everyone, knows that He exists--because he has made it plain to you. Yes, I am calling you liar.

This is why all atheists are so concerned about the Bible: you are all terrified it might be true, which of course it is. You are secretly terrifed of The Place of Eternal Judgment, as you should be. It haunts your dreams.

Remember, whatever you decide, Hell is the greatest threat imaginable: everlasting pain--you will never get out of That Place.

You have been warned.

Choose Jesus now, while you can--He can return at any moment. Then He will prove Himself to all--no faith necessary.

and that is the KILLER ARGUMENT.

And, no, you CANNOT beat it.

Amen.

[Jack]

Your juvenile attitude toward debating and your lack of awareness of your own bias make you an uninteresting person to discuss anything with.
I can't put you on ignore but I will endeavor to cease replying to your pointless nonsense.

[Paleface2500]

Quote by: KillerArgument Dearest Isherwood, Some atheists on this forum do not know very much about the untenable position they try to hold, so you are wrong about that one. How am I supposed to be impressed if a biologist studies his own belief system, held by faith? By "properly debating," do you mean that I should cooperate and lose to you, even though I have the winning Killer Argument? Micro-evolution (adaptation) is a scientifically provable fact. Macro-evolution, on the other hand, (a fish to a giraffe), has not been shown, and is NOT provable science. In fact, it is not "science" at all. I defer to a biologist's knowledge of scientifically provable biology--his field. I do not defer to his fossil fantasies and unscientific and godless pet theories of the origin of life from non-life. Am I not allowed on a debate forum if I am absolute in my views? I like to enter a debate forum like a gladiator, with the winning argument, kill all opposing arguments, and leave--the victor. My assertions have been brought forth in proper logical and debate form as arguments. You have brought nothing forth to strike them down. If you have something you feel can kill my arguments--bring it. Please stop whining that I am winning, and that you cannot win. The Coliseum is not fair--it is the survival of the fittest argument here. You are not in possession of it. Or, if you can't beat the Killer Argument, why not join him? An atheist claims to have "no faith in a god or Gods" that nevertheless may exist. There is not much to know about the position. This is NOT a faith, agreed. If you have no faith in the God who exists, ok. This is NOT a faith. If you claim not to know that God exists, you are an agnostic, ok This is NOT a faith. If you claim, however, that "there is no God" this is a position that can only be held by faith, as it is an unprovable position. This called "strong atheism." (Strong atheism is for the weak-minded, unintellectual, and ignorant among us--like yourself.) ~~~ A person who believes, (unscientifically, and without the proof of the results of scientific experimentation) that life arose from non-life without God, this person believes in miracles, while claiming to believe in science. My only points are to show that both Christians and evolutionistic- origin atheists both believe in things by faith, and both believe in miracles. This is a correct and irrefutable argument that has, in fact, not been refuted in this forum. It has been refined through losses, setbacks and brutal arguing in other debate forums. I was kicked off one atheistic forum because my arguments could not be killed. Now, I come to kill your arguments that stand in opposition to these. These arguments cannot lose because they are TRUTH. Experiments about some guy making dead chemicals in his lab do not prove that life came from non-life. One link I will read: link me to a site that shows that a scientist made life from non-life, and you win the argument #2 (but not argument #1). I have given you a way to falsify my argument and win the debate, which is more than the lies, insults and deception you have offered me. Let's debate: I can't wait to see you all lose again. ~~~ Beyond this debate: 1) Life is a miracle. Life is intelligent. Life is intelligent, or you are admitting that you are not intelligent. God created life and intelligence and consciousness, and the human eye, brain, beautiful women, and the earth and galaxies, and bald eagles, whales and giraffes and zebras. This overwhelming and irrefutable evidence God shoves in your unbelieving face--every single day of your unbelieving life. 2) There is an absolute moral law. 3) Every human breaks the moral law. 4) Death is coming for us all. 5) The judgment of God the Creator is coming for those who reject God's one and only way to get out God's judgment on sin (Hell): Jesus' death on the cross for sin. These are matters of faith, not debate. I cannot prove that God exists--it's a matter of faith. You have hereby been warned by God through me. You are the one who will stand before God with your sins, and your rejection of His evidence: His creation. God in His Word says that you, and everyone, knows that He exists--because he has made it plain to you. Yes, I am calling you liar. This is why all atheists are so concerned about the Bible: you are all terrified it might be true, which of course it is. You are secretly terrifed of The Place of Eternal Judgment, as you should be. It haunts your dreams. Remember, whatever you decide, Hell is the greatest threat imaginable: everlasting pain--you will never get out of That Place. You have been warned. Choose Jesus now, while you can--He can return at any moment. Then He will prove Himself to all--no faith necessary. and that is the KILLER ARGUMENT. And, no, you CANNOT beat it. Amen.

Rock on Brother.

[Paleface2500]

Quote by: Isherwood Your juvenile attitude toward debating and your lack of awareness of your own bias make you an uninteresting person to discuss anything with. I can't put you on ignore but I will endeavor to cease replying to your pointless nonsense.

Wow he burnt this place up.......obviously crushed you. wow.....

[Jack]

I can only hope you know more about proper debate than he does.

[RickSp]

Quote by: KillerArgument I cannot prove that God exists--it's a matter of faith. You have hereby been warned by God through me. You are the one who will stand before God with your sins, and your rejection of His evidence: His creation. God in His Word says that you, and everyone, knows that He exists--because he has made it plain to you. Yes, I am calling you liar.

I think it best if I reserve my opinion of you, kid.

But be sure to give my best to your imaginary friend, for whom you admit to having no proof whatsoever.

Your childishness is amusing? How old are you? 15?

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Isherwood Your juvenile attitude toward debating and your lack of awareness of your own bias make you an uninteresting person to discuss anything with. I can't put you on ignore but I will endeavor to cease replying to your pointless nonsense.

Chuckles,

Your superior detached attitude makes you seem to appear uninvolved, even though you really are--why else would you be here?

I am very aware of my bias: I am a Christian.

Your bias is "evolutionistic godless-origin atheist."

Are biases wrong?

Why would you think I am unaware of my bias? Please support your false and groundless statement.

If I am so "uninteresting," why do I have almost 1000 views on this thread? Do you ever stop lying? Challenge for you: say one thing that is *true*.

If I have brought "pointless nonsense," please refute it. Be my guest.

I hope your "endeavors to cease replying" to me succeed--loser.

[Lullaby Chainer]

Quote by: RickSp I think it best if I reserve my opinion of you, kid. But be sure to give my best to your imaginary friend, for whom you admit to having no proof whatsoever. Your childishness is amusing? How old are you? 15?

He's 41. Go figure?

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: Paleface2500 Rock on Brother.

Thank you, Paleface. :)

[pahl]

Ferrous Cranus, definently.

You will always be a winner in your own mind, so further arguing will only be wasted on you.

Im off to try and teach a rock how to swim.

[Paleface2500]

Well I have not read every post so I will try an not comment. What I do know is this guy is defending himself by himself and I find that admirable. As a theist I am used to being ganged up on so naturally, it is refreshing to see someone hold is own.


What i find amusing is anytime some starts to lose an argument, be theist, atheist whatever, they always result to insults and accusations. You can always tell who is loosing. They are the ones who contribute nothing to the argument, only sarcasm, quips and irrelevant dialog.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Lullaby Chainer He's 41. Go figure?

Chronologically, perhaps.

[KillerArgument]

Quote by: RickSp I think it best if I reserve my opinion of you, kid. But be sure to give my best to your imaginary friend, for whom you admit to having no proof whatsoever. Your childishness is amusing? How old are you? 15?

Rick,

You don't have any "best." Only God is good.

Fire away with your opinion of me, please. Your bullets bounce right off my chest, Ricky. I'm Superman, bro!

My Invisible Friend knows all about you. He knows all about the things you have done, Yes, those things.

Atheistic godless-origin evolution cannot be proven, either. These are all matters of faith.

You have the wrong faith.

By your quesion mark, are you saying that you are not sure if my childishness is amusing?

I'm four years old. :)

How does it feel to be beaten by a four year old?

-Killa Argument

[Lullaby Chainer]

Quote by: KillerArgument By "properly debating," do you mean that I should cooperate and lose to you, even though I have the winning Killer Argument?

No, proper debating means you use arguments and address other arguments accordingly. It's also nice if you don't declare yourself the victor with every post. It's almost scary to see you do that.. and to capitalize your name as a noun. O.o

Quote by: KillerArgument Am I not allowed on a debate forum if I am absolute in my views?

You're allowed. You haven't done anything that's not allowed. You're just annoying and you don't know how to debate, that's all.

Quote by: KillerArgument I like to enter a debate forum like a gladiator, with the winning argument, kill all opposing arguments, and leave--the victor.

As I see it, you're acting like some crazy guy in the stands of a gladiator's tournaments shouting he's supreme with his cardboard blade and armor.

This is even more proof that you don't know where you are. Show some respect. You aren't at church. You can't preach and screw any arguments and expect us to respond to your childish self-mockery.

Quote by: KillerArgument My assertions have been brought forth in proper logical and debate form as arguments. You have brought nothing forth to strike them down.

What argument is this? You have opinions. You haven't shown you can argue yet.

Quote by: KillerArgument If you have something you feel can kill my arguments--bring it.

That would require an argument to kill in the first place.

Quote by: KillerArgument Please stop whining that I am winning, and that you cannot win.

Not whining. Just deeply concerned for your well-being.

Quote by: KillerArgument The Coliseum is not fair--it is the survival of the fittest argument here. You are not in possession of it.

Currently our arguments are alone here.

Quote by: KillerArgument Or, if you can't beat the Killer Argument, why not join him?

Wow, this sounds like the dark side. The "Killer Argument" my gosh. Are you trying to be funny? If not, I'm really sorry it's come to this. If so, it is funny.. but please quite it. It's getting old.

Quote by: KillerArgument If you have no faith in the God who exists, ok. This is NOT a faith.

This is an example of what your "Killer Arguments" have been. God exists, I win.

Quote by: KillerArgument (Strong atheism is for the weak-minded, unintellectual, and ignorant among us--like yourself.)

Careful now, you're insulting countless minds greater than anyone on this board, including the god warrior here.

Quote by: KillerArgument A person who believes, (unscientifically, and without the proof of the results of scientific experimentation) that life arose from non-life without God, this person believes in miracles, while claiming to believe in science.

No, this person believes in science. Nice argument there, pal. "This person believes in miracles." Oh.. ok? Where's the argument? Hint: define miracle and define evolution from a real dictionary. Then show relationships between the definitions and present them here. Thanks.

Quote by: KillerArgument My only points are to show that both Christians and evolutionistic- origin atheists both believe in things by faith, and both believe in miracles.

See above.

Quote by: KillerArgument This is a correct and irrefutable argument that has, in fact, not been refuted in this forum.

There's nothing to refute. You haven't made an argument yet, and you've been disrespectful to what a debate is since you got here.

Quote by: KillerArgument It has been refined through losses, setbacks and brutal arguing in other debate forums. I was kicked off one atheistic forum because my arguments could not be killed.

Link us to the forum. Give us your screen name there. Or shut up and stop gloating about your false godly ego.


Christ.. I can't even continue. This is really depressing. For the respectable theists here, just know we as a board don't generalize Christians from people like KillerArgument.

[Lullaby Chainer]

Quote by: Paleface2500 Well I have not read every post so I will try an not comment. What I do know is this guy is defending himself by himself and I find that admirable. As a theist I am used to being ganged up on so naturally, it is refreshing to see someone hold is own. What i find amusing is anytime some starts to lose an argument, be theist, atheist whatever, they always result to insults and accusations. You can always tell who is loosing. They are the ones who contribute nothing to the argument, only sarcasm, quips and irrelevant dialog.

Yeah.. please please read his posts before you say anything. _._

He's been disrespectful to anyone who disagrees, he's been obnoxious, he doesn't know how to debate, and we've repeatedly elaborated on what he needs to do.

Even Gods_Mercenary sees how ridiculous he's being.

[RickSp]

Quote by: KillerArgument Rick, How does it feel to be beaten by a four year old? -Killa Argument

LOL. Your obsession with winning is the funniest bit of all. Suggests both the understanding and maturity of a four year old.

You fundies are funny.

[Jack]

As a theist I am used to being ganged up on so naturally, it is refreshing to see someone hold is own.

If you live in the U.S., where 80% or so of the citizens claim to be religious, I find this hard to accept. Unless you make a point of going places where you know your opinions aren't welcome (which does not include Volconvo, BTW), I'd expect the majority of people to agree with you.

[Lullaby Chainer]

Quote by: KillerArgument I'm four years old. :) How does it feel to be beaten by a four year old? -Killa Argument

You know.. although we know your age, I would expect this from a four year old who's having his dad type for him. So, I'm not surprised you'd label yourself this, even though I'm sure you're just trying to be funny.