The Nature Of Reality

[Rave7pt0]

I was asked to post this here, so I'll just copy and paste it in. I think I refer to the root or something in it, and that's why. I wrote this yesterday morning after not sleeping all night, and I didn't finish fleshing it out in my brain to a point that I could stop for nearly 10 hours. Anyway... enjoy.

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I am in a tremendous state right now... haven't slept, it's now 3pm, and still thinking this through. It came to me in a mad rush of inspiration... so forgive the somewhat unorganized (but still organic and navigable) structure, and the typos (no sleep will kill your typing skills). I've made connections that make the world a little less fuzzy. My focus has been sharpened to include the mystery of the fabric of reality. The fact is, most you will read this and think I'm insane, or understand intellectually, and move on. For some of you this will strike a chord (what a pun... read on).


I don't have the energy to start from the beginning, so I'll start with 11 dimensions. There are 11 theoretical dimensions according to some scientists. Others have the figure anywhere from 7 up, but the number of dimensions isn't crucial for the theory. Just that there are additional dimensions beyond common perception. Let's say for the sake of the argument, that the number is 11 though. Each of these dimensions is exactly perpendicular to every other one -- a hard concept to swallow in our 4 dimensional reality.

So let's get into our 4 dimensions. We see X, Y, and Z as having ends and we can see everything in the middle of these dimensions. That's our sight, or what have you. That's how we perceive those 3; we can view an object in complete form within the 3 dimensions. The other one, T (for Time) is perceived differently. We see each point on T one at a time until we've "seen" the whole thing. The fact is that it's just as continuous as X, Y, Z, and any other dimension.

Most of you have heard the analogy of the universe as a sphere.
If you travel in a straight line, you will hit the same spot in the universe eventually. As though you're traveling on a globe. The reason now is clear to me just as is infinite time.

All these axes ARE perpendicular, but they are in the context of a sphere, and therefore touch at one point in reality, and derive from an opposite point. This point where reality originates as a singularity might be called God. This goes along with String theory, and the big bang therein. For those who don't know, the theory suggests that reality is made of one dimensional "strings", that were tampered with at some point to cause them to collide. This caused the big bang, and thus we see the "origin" of the universe as we know it to be strings banging into each other because of some outside influence. God?

Moving on, why a sphere? What's the most energy efficient form? Sphere. An 11 dimensional hyper sphere, therefore, would be the most efficient form over all, accounting for all of reality, not just 3 dimensions.

My theory boils down to the idea that reality actually IS God, and it's God's goal to obtain inner peace, or harmony, or resonance, or whatever you want to call it. We are each expressions of God's intelligence, and we are striving to be one with the major part of God. When this happens... something interesting occurs.

There's one pole of the hyper sphere that can act as the origin, meaning that all axes intersect there. That is God, and origin of all reality. Once God has achieved harmonic resonance, all the energy perhaps flows in the place where the axes all meet, at the other pole of the hyper sphere. This singularity is made of all energy and intelligence, so due to its omni benevolent nature, to must again "explode" forth along the 11 axes. So what we have is an infinite progression of what is possibly 2 phases of God. Every time one reality reaches harmony, it must explode again, causing dissonance, so the energy eventually must reharmonize and repeat the process. The kicker is that there's no time here. T is just a construct of the human mind, at least in the way we perceive it. It's what allows us to intelligently move our nodes. Because time doesn't exist as such, all those infinite universes must exist simultaneously. Trippy.

That means every possible thing to exist, in every possible configuration on the plane of 11 dimensions must exist in unison. More Trippy.

So anyway, we're all part of this sphere, which is infinite. All points in time and space exist simultaneously, making up all of reality. Explanation for prophecy? Perhaps, read on.

Here's where it gets tricky... it came to me in a way I could understand, but you may not. In 3D programs, you have a mesh normally, and where the lines in the mesh intersect is a vertex. If you move a vertex in a 3D program, you change the shape of the mesh, b/c the lines are moving to different places to still touch the vertex. There's a thing called "soft selection" that selects vertices around the initial one, in a radiating pattern. So if they are arranged like a circle, just for example, and you pull the middle one (which you have 100% sway over), the ones next closest might be 75%, then the next circle out would be 50%, and so on. If you pulled down on the center on it'd pull the circle down much like a trampoline when you're jumping on it.

You can think of a vertex as thing in reality. Your happiness for example. Say your happiness is a point where some of lines on the mesh of your reality meet. That means that if you move your happiness it will affect the architecture of your life, and consequently all of reality, especially reality that is close in "proximity" to the change.

The different vertices you can control include things about your being. Your outlook, your mood, your thought process. All vertices, or groups of vertices. Some vertices have more influence over those around them. Enter soft selection. You move one vertex, like happiness, and your other moods move accordingly. Your whole being is made up of several vertices. The sum can be thought of as one vertex in itself on the mesh of reality. If you move your vertex, which is the only vertex you have essential control over, the mesh around you moves as well, responding to your stimulus. That has to do with one's ability to project themselves. I'll can my humility briefly and say I have an extremely forceful personality. I have power behind my words and actions, and things I think, feel, and do, affect others in a wide radius around me. That is secondary control -- when things I control essentially (self) can effect other vertices as well. If one introverted kid in high school changes to become a little friendlier, his sphere of influence is still weak. He'll probably only move himself, and be met with being ignored by his peers. UNLESS, he keeps at it, and learns confidence, and what it implies. The confidence to exude ego. When he moves in the mesh, he'll affect those in a close circle around him, and they will move too, to some extent.

Just to be clear about essential and secondary movement. Your individual spark of intelligence basically lords over the vibes that comprise your physical being. It can move these things directly, without causing dissonance. However, most nodes (especially ones in a human) are interconnected heavily to nodes which are on a dissonant line. So, we have direct control over our nodes, and the surrounding nodes have variable secondary influence on them through their intelligence and thus the wave they sit on. By definition, God is the only entity that has essential control over all nodes. This does not mean you lack free will. It just means that God has the capacity to override node movements. However, his omni benevolent nature indirectly prevents Him from utilizing that capacity.

Extrapolate the concept, and if you understand how to affect the mesh, you can bend reality to your pleasing. Only if you understand what's happening though. I can use my personal force to move other vertices, and I have come to understand that since we are all part of the same whole -- this cosmic, holy, hyper sphere -- I can move any vertex, just as I move my toe even though it's away from my brain. Once you realize that you are part of everything, your actions must become clear. You must be compassionate to all things, because persecuting anything, or judging anything, means you're doing the same to yourself. Killing is like killing a part of yourself.

I'll expand on "understanding what's happening," since there were some people who missed that. Most people don't realize this, but we are all not only connected, but in fact all one disharmonious entity. Just in the way that your spark allows you to manipulate your physical body, that same intelligence, once it perceives that it has a "bigger" body than it's physical form, can then manipulate outside nodes directly (essential control), just as we are accustomed to moving our arms. For example, I bent a can once, with my mind. Didn't have a spoon. Sue me. Anyway, the idea was that you have to establish a respectful relationship with the object on the basis that you love it because it exists. Universal love… it’s a Christian idea. I had no idea why this worked. Now it's clear:

Another description for establishing respect, and universal love, is getting on the same wave length. My model says that entities on the same wave length are "harmonious" which is good by definition. When one is harmonious with another, they become a part of the same whole in my model. That gives each node essential control over each other. Since a can has no, or very little, divine spark, my intelligence allowed me to bend it as though I was moving a part of my own body, while the can would remain benign for the foreseeable future (future used loosely here...).

So for example on this, let's say I'm Rave. I am Rave. I get pissed about something someone did on the root, that was out of harmony with its structure. Say they lorded over the forums selfishly. I could move my personal vertex, and due to my ego force, other vertices far and wide also move, even if ever so slightly. In a practical sense, I would move people to action and thought. If an [even newer] newbie with very little influence in this part of the mesh (aka, the root) did something similar, no one would be moved, and thus bash the newbie. If a vertex doesn't accept a tug from another one, then it must pull back to maintain the current shape of the mesh. Newbie9 says I'm a jerk, and I deserve to be shot. He tried to move the mesh, but you all pull back, and say no, you frood, Rave's a cool, fair guy. Thus his influence has been thwarted.

Let's bring this a step further now. Assume that we are made of this cosmic goop. We'll call it energy. It's the fabric of reality, and the nature of reality is determined by the wave length of any given portion of this fabric. Certain vibes tend to be static. Like plastic, for example. It has no pull directly on anything, and has no awareness, and thus lacks the spark of the divine (which is also just a wave length). God "created" us, or in my model, is the fabric of reality (which is the context of our existence), as in being a "necessary" being. We are a small part, or an image, or maybe even reflection of God. A good analogy is that we are an expression of God just as a wave is an expression of the ocean. His innate drive is to create all things ad infinitum due to omni benevolence, and we copy that drive by putting things together with our hands and minds. But these things don't have the spark of the divine. They were made by us -- or you could think of as a line with a wavelength shook a vertex and caused a newer vibe to be born. That newer vibe is plastic, and doesn't really resemble anything that the cosmic hyper sphere would create directly. Thus it has no pull. However, one can blur the lines between divine and man made. If we assume that human kind is a significant portion of God, then if enough people contribute to a given vibe, it just may take a spark of its own. Example... cotton gin. A few people probably helped this creation happen, but it's still a manufactured vibe. As time progresses more and work goes into increasingly complex machines. As the number of people who affect an idea grows, the greater portion of "God" actually has a hand in creating the idea. If many, many, many people contribute to the same idea, or invention, then it becomes that much more holy, if you will, by virtue of the total amount of Godly involvement. Take computers. They are really starting to blur the line between data processing, and intelligence. I mean hell, our DNA code is essentially binary, with only two possible combos of nucleotide bases (don't correct me, I know it's a simplification... I'm just illustrating a point).

However, take what you might call an "enlightened" vibe, or soul, or essence if you will. A vibe that is in greater harmony with the supreme vibe. They understand things more easily, and feel, understand, and respond to the pull of other vertices more readily. They know how to influence the vertex, by adjusting their wave length to that which is needed to move a vertex to a given position. The reason for that is that as they come closer to God they come closer to understanding the nature of His power, and indeed, as they begin to move in harmony with God, they themselves become more Godly.

So if all these vertices are on lines that have wave length and amplitude, and each vertex could be said to be attached to an infinite (or at least large, undefined) number of lines, you find that these vertices are ALWAYS moving... each intelligent vertex vying over control in a way, of those around them.

Let's go back to newbie9. When he was told to piss off, that could be illustrated by him making a wave length on several lines. This started perhaps at a central vertex (brain?), then moved to a secondary one within him (communications), which moved in such a way as to create a wave length on the lines between his vertex, and your "opinion of Rave" vertex. Not influenced (perhaps by the weak amplitude of the wave length), you simply adjusted yours to create dissonance on his line, which was the practical action of telling him to piss off. He feels down trodden, perhaps. Certainly not good about his accomplishment, of being told off.

I'll continue that in a second, but I need to explain something else first. If everything is a vibe, arranged in a sphere whose vertices are constantly moving, then it wouldn't be a perfect sphere. The outlines would be moving, and blurred. The sphere wouldn't be in harmony with itself, by virtue of it's own inefficiency. This is the problem of the universe. Perhaps we are the mind of God, trying to iron out his omniscience. Each of us just nodes, whose purpose it is to come to harmony with the other nodes.

So, theoretically, the perfect sphere would be one were the vibe is moving it unison along the poles of the hyper sphere. Everything moving in unison is the "goal."


Back to newbie9. Others have created dissonance in his wavelength, upsetting it from a balance of sorts. It has moved further out of harmony with the sphere, and this is expressed as possibly anger, or depression, or even nonchalance, depending on how newbie9's internal vertices are connected. His negative emotions are tangibly the result of his wave length getting a bigger, more distorted amplitude from the dissonance. What if people had taken the time to understand newbie9? What if they had respectfully explained the merit they saw it me, instead of attacking him? Probably, newbie9 would've moved closer to the wave length of the other lines, coming closer to harmony, and visa versa for all the surrounding vertices, through the effort of trying to understand newbie9's mistake. This small bit of respect, and indeed compassion, has brought us closer to harmony in the sphere, as opposed to directly combating the tug on our own vertices which caused us to fall out of harmony.

So if we recognize our place in the sphere, and treat others as we would like to be treated (because, indeed, if we treat others badly, we are treating ourselves badly... and God for that matter) then we come closer to harmony which is essentially a state of flowing balance.

A small explanation. Think of a seesaw. Tilt one end of it to the ground, as if you have weighed something on it. Let's pretend that what you weighed was a wave length you perceived to be evidence for a position. You now have a 45 or so degree angle. Now repeat that pattern into infinity. Essentially your state of balance makes a sine wave, and the amount of balance you have, and possible the amount of influence, determine your amplitude and wavelength respectively. So the closer we get to harmony with the sphere, the closer we get to absolute balance, which would be a strait line (in a spherical context, mind you, so it would be infinite). Straight lines bear no differentiation from other things per se, and so we cannot perceive them. For example, Buddhist monks have been known to vanish without a trace. They have achieved balance, which makes them impossible for us to perceive at this wave length, so they appear to have disappeared (um, yeah that almost made sense). They are still there, however, in a different dimension, you might say.

So in that way, eastern religion has it right. However, my problem with their philosophy: They promote breaking the self into an omnipresence, basically. Becoming one with the sphere. Great, we're closer to harmony with them having done that, however what about the other vertices? They still move, out of harmony with the sphere. Intelligent vertices, such as people, have the power to cultivate influence, and move people closer to harmony. Thus, if a person can come to understand the nature of reality, he can tug on an unlimited number of vertices, bringing them all closer to harmony, before finally achieving balance himself. Truly, if he creates relative harmony around his own vertex, he has a better chance of remaining in harmony, since there will be fewer interfering wave lengths to affect it.

As far as balance goes, I can explain how that is achieved. Your amplitude is your reaction to stimuli (which are actually just other nodes tugging on you). If you judge the stimuli and react, you are changing your wave length probably for the worse, and thus breaking harmony in the sphere. Jesus said do not judge, lest ye be judged. If you consider judgment a function of the amplitude of the line you have, then changing the amplitude between two vertices will cause them to both move. Furthermore, the vertex having been affected by your change in judgment will have to change its frequency to compensate, pulling back on you. So the wave you changed to try to control a given vertex, has now backfired and actually moved you further out of harmony.

A few more illustrations. A well documented "fact," with lots of evidence to back it up (or nodes that are balanced to anchor it, perhaps. Unchanging, balanced vibes do not move, and thus are constant. Laws of nature?) creates a strong amplitude in surrounding nodes. The amplitude might be thought of as the severity of the opinion. For example: what comes up must come down. It's based on a balanced wave, which we like to call gravity (and therefore always works, since it is constant), and so the reaction to the position of the "gravity node" by other connected nodes (which is essentially everything in our perception of reality), must be to come down (or towards the given object. Whatever.) This is a severe opinion that creates an amplitude that is tremendous (nearly 90 degree angles on this sine curve), and thus a dissonance which is tremendous. So one might argue that learning what we think are "laws" of science is detrimental to the harmony of the universe, because the simple act of studying those nodes, affects frequencies, which may create a static line which previously didn't exist (balanced. Zero amplitude), which in turn may result in other wave lengths expressing as "facts," finally resulting in severe opinions that are out of harmony with the sphere.
One could also argue, that science is the path to enlightenment, if that can defined as achieving full harmony with the sphere. Science affects dynamic wave lengths, turning them often into static lines, which are in fact in harmony. However, this could prove to be difficult, since the more static lines we have through science, the more restrictions we find ourselves under as a result of the severe opinions caused on the basis of the static line. One might argue that spiritual enlightenment is the only course to harmony, in that you can both become balanced, and disconnect from other nodes directly, meaning opinions (which are nodes themselves) can't be affected, since the static line (in harmony) can't be used as "evidence" of a law of nature. The disconnected static line has no connections, and only moves in unison with the frequency of the sphere, or else must inevitably collide, causing dissonance, which may be expressed as new part of reality, such as a new idea, or what have you.
Or take the severe opinions of hard-line, fundamental Christians. Do this certain thing, or go to a place called hell. Based on evidence these nodes (church goers) only believe exist (faith), they develop severe opinions about other people. Their belief causes them to judge, and thus ramp up the frequency of the line, thereby creating dissonance with the sphere.

On the other hand, there is indeed room for Christian beliefs in this model: a node central to the hyper sphere (Jesus Christ), which lay on a static or nearly static line was put into slight dissonance by an even more essential node (God the Father), thus manifesting itself in what we perceive to be "reality." This node, Jesus, was moved out of harmony slightly to help an extremely large number of surrounding nodes come close to harmony -- at least, closer. Thus was Jesus Christ a teacher, and was killed, which is in itself a violent, sudden increase in the amplitude of a given wave length. When this increase occurred, all connected nodes, which (because Jesus was so in tune with the universe) was innumerable, suddenly were moved to action. Events in history took place, and nodes (Christians) were motivated to spread harmony, affecting an even more innumerable amount of nodes. Notably, they've failed to do so, at least in full. Christianity, however, has spread copious amounts of harmony.

This explains how Jesus is the Son of God (close to the frequency of God, and was given the spark from the central node from which all things originate). It explains at the same time how he was also the "son of man." Man, defined as at least all entities with the spark of the divine, make up in large part what we might consider "God." Son of God, son of man.

Explains his miracles. He understood the relationship of nodes within the framework of the mesh, and could affect those nodes without creating dissonance. He did this by willing a given node to move as if they were essential to him. The only entity for whom all nodes are essential (or directly, intelligently controllable) is the central node. The origin of all wave lengths, and frequency. God. Thus he's both God by definition, and man by wave length. Both God and Man.

Also explains why he prayed to God the Father. He was one with God, as are we all, but also a semi-independent node, within the frequency we perceive as "human."

Explains how we too can perform these miracles, after Jesus' fashion.

Also explains why there are less miracles today. If reality is basically subjective, in that the more we study something the more we shape its reality, then it follows that the hard and fast laws of science used to not be static. They used to be slightly more dissonant, since they hadn't been tampered with by nodes with the spark, causing anomolies in the "system." This might allow otherwise impossible things to happen, like walking on water, or transfiguration.
As time wore on, and our knowledge of "natural law" became more advanced and specific, we effectively made everything we study so far into a static line. Without dissonance, there can be no anomalies, hence no "miracles."
Unless.
Unless a spark of the divine intelligence takes essential control over a key node in the static line, and moves it. That having be done, a frequency is created, only to be stopped by the next node, which is solidly in place due to its foundation on a static line. This allows for brief, intelligent, anomalies to occur. Like bleeding statues, and what have you.


If you think about it, the only harmonic way to be is to be at peace with God, after a fact. At peace, meaning your frequency has low amplitude (0), and high wave length (infinity), and with God as the hyper sphere -- the basis for all reality, and the place from which said originates.

So, if we are all part of God, through the hyper sphere and wave lengths, then we're all made of the same stuff. If we are all made of the same stuff, then it all must just "be." No good, no evil. Good happens when you reduce your amplitude and align it with the sphere, and Bad happens when you tug violently on the vertices around you, creating dissonance with the sphere's harmony. Any way you look at it, it's made of the same stuff -- just a different state of being, that can be adjusted by intelligent vertices.

Why is good and bad relative then? Everything is absolute in relation to the sphere. The sphere has a harmonic frequency that all of reality is trying to match. However, the vast majority of things have amplitudes of above zero, and are thus out of harmony. When these amplitudes and wave lengths match, they can be said to be "good for each other."

Winning a war is a good vibe for the victor. That creates resonance in the line between the victor's vertex, and the "win war" vertex.

However, this must also go against the loser's vibe. The vibes aren't synchronized -- and it's such a large disturbance in the sphere's harmony, that we perceive it as pain, suffering, inhumanity, and all the atrocities of war.

If a leader is killed, he's a martyr. Why? That vertex (the leader) has be able to achieve some level of influence over many other vertices. When that leader is killed, meaning when dissonance is applied in just a way as to extinguish, or tangibly alter the waves upon which his nodes sat, his vertex must move significantly. That significant move is followed by those vertices in range of it, thus a great disturbance is formed. Imagine this scenario is a circular mesh. The vertex for the leader is the in the center, or very near it, and affects every vertex on the mesh, even if the further ones are affected only slightly. This vertex is also upward in relation to the would-be flat surface of the circle. Let's say for the sake of argument, that that will imply "good." When the leader is killed, the vertex jumps suddenly from bringing all around it up, to dragging them all down. This is expressed as rage, anger, sadness -- negative feelings. It's all a matter of the tug of each vertex. Eventually, though -- like a trampoline -- the dissonance will lose energy, and stop. Once-martyrs slowly become distant memories, and then fade away entirely as the vertices that were once thrown violently out of place, settle back into a static state, perhaps awaiting another wave to disturb it and start it all over again.

Alternatively, you have the same mesh with an insane dictator, who is tugging all the surrounding vertices down. Kill him, and it goes up quickly, and brings the other nodes with it. This is expressed as happiness, relief -- positive feelings. This, again, slowly fades. The bigger the dissonance (Holocaust), the slower it fades from memory, and indeed reality.


So with understanding, compassion, and teamwork you create harmony in the sphere, as I have illustrated. With violence, and force you create dissonance. Also with this model, we've explained a lot of Christian philosophies, and others, as well as reconciled them with eastern schools of thought. Western religion (or I should say spirituality) is motivated by compassion -- in other words, how to affect vertices around you by motivating their sparks to move in resonance with the sphere. This is physically expressed by making that person feel good emotions, such as love, happiness, and content (aka balance). What did God mean in the Bible (if any of that can be trusted) when he said "I am" in response to the question "Who are you?" Could the God of my model be described more aptly? The fabric of everything. The context in which reality exists, and indeed reality itself. It simply "is." Or if you are God you might just say "am" or "I am."

When you achieve harmony, you become one with God -- in other words, achieving harmony with the sphere's frequency gives you understanding of the divine, and thus you are "assimilated" into the mind of God. Becoming one with God. Being in God's presence. Call it what you will, Heaven is a very common name for that. Total comfort, satisfaction, and love, unchanging into infinity.

Eastern religion is focused on creating harmony within yourself, to become part of the great nirvana. Same idea.

Explains reincarnation as well. When we die, we are kind of stuck a static position, since we lose our "spark" so to speak, or our God-given intelligence. This intelligence is not "being" itself, but the ability to evaluate and change our being. In other words, when we "die" we lose the spark of the divine and are then unable to intelligently affect the position of our nodes on the mesh. We freeze where we are... and if you freeze out of harmony with the sphere you might term this as separation from God, or hell. However, even if your frequency IS in harmony you can still be moved by other waves crossing over you, and in essence touching you with the spark, and thus renewing your wave in the form of a new life. If you remain in harmony, you will be in a state commonly referred to as "heaven" or Nirvana, or harmony with nature, or what have you.

One might explain every real thing in terms of this mesh sphere model. You name a situation, and I'll show you nodes moving through intelligence, to affect their connected line's frequency, and thus the vertices around them.

One of the more common ways to move these vertices is to use communication, which stimulates intelligent vertices greatly. You can make someone happy, sad, angry, or any number of things through communication. This tends to cause a more harmonious internal reaction within the affected node's different parts, and thus promotes harmony. One could surmise that the use of physical force is a method of moving a node from the outside, and therefore must create more dissonance with the sphere. It's a sudden, violent change in the amplitude in the line between two vertices, forcing the victim node to move against it's free will, or "spark of the divine." This is why violence cannot mesh with compassion.

An example of moving nodes... I'm pretty in tune with what I theorize are these "nodes," and I have a friend who's... working on it. My fiancé gave him the challenge of making everyone in the 5 person group smile in under 2 minutes. What popped into my head was focusing on the oneness between us, and taking control of their "smile" node, and smiling for them. After all, we're all part of the same whole. Phil, however, did something surprising. He, in turn, told us each not to smile. He used communication, which is a slightly more dissonant (but equally valid) solution versus just comprehending the unity of reality and acting on it. The problem was getting people to smile, and he succeeded. Given time he can get closer to God by breaking down his own personal walls and judgments, and learn to affect nodes like God does. When every node of reality is essential to that node (Phil) then he, by definition, becomes one with God. He goes to Heaven.


I just wrote that with lord knows what energy… I wrote this a frenzy of inspiration. It was a journey for me as well as you.

I really hope this turned on some light bulbs upstairs for some of you.

[Geoff332]

A whole lot of speculation and analogies. But it's a pretty major set of conclusions to draw from a couple of pretty shaky (not to mention undemonstrable) assumptions.

[Rave7pt0]

The thing is, Geoff, that if you use the model as a tool, it can explain virtually every question. I made certain assumptions to fit within the context of what I know to be true to some reasonable extent.

However, I will be fleshing it out and gaining evidence for these claims.

[Geoff332]

that if you use the model as a tool, it can explain virtually every question.

Which is probably why I dislike it. I can just as easily argue that the world is entirely a construction of my mind (that I am merely a brain kept alive in a vat) and that all my 'experiences' are simply projections of my own mind. It can explain virtually every question -- in the sense that it provides an answer to them. But just because it works doesn't make it true.

If you can gain evidence for the basic claims, then it would be interesting to see. But without that, it falls directly in the realm of speculative metaphysics. Which is all very interesting, but very, very rarely actually goes anywhere.

[Rave7pt0]

I think there's a basis for it. This is a basis I haven't fully developed for it though. The reason I think there's a basis is that it seems to fit in with the way things are. Since it appears to fit, I'm pursuing evidence for it's basic elements. Essentially, I'm working from the sky down, instead of the ground up.

[Kuldeep]

[quote=Rave7pt0]

I was asked to post this here, so I'll just copy and paste it in. I think I refer to the root or something in it, and that's why.

I have full sympathy with you for under taking so much mental exercise for writing something REAL TOUGH, The Nature Of Reality which won't be able to express by any known means what to speak of verbal or writing technique, EVEN BY THOSE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY REALISED REALITY!!! My writing here under, may help you or those who have asked you to write about "The Nature Of Reality" . Or, who have interest in such topic!!!

In one sentence, I can tell you the Reality is that "THERE IS NO DUALITY". Before elaborating this sentence, I may tell you that this is described in Hindu religion as BRMAHA GYANA (Ultimate Knowledge), AS TOLD BY LORD SHIVA TO HIS WIFE PARVATI. It is told that this ultimate knowledge is so secretive that Parvati fell asleep AT THE BEGINING OF THE DISCOURCE and some great soul (don't remember his name) in the form of a Pigion heard this and propagated down to human race!

First, let me elaborate the reality behind us or the universe. There is no duality means that what we concieve about US, including whole UNIVERSE is all an ILLUSION!!! In fact, it is only HE (You may call it ultimate reality, God, supra supreme consciousness, or what ever part of speach you want to give it) which exists and everything else are real images of HIM only. In HIS perception We and the Universe are even virtual images of HIS. Scietific explantion to this can be given with the help of multiple mirrors and a single object. Innumerable numbers of images can be seen depending upon number of mirrors. A person ignorant about reflection, mirror etc. would wrongly take all the images as separate identity. While a person knowing about mirror, reflection etc at once can understand the object is in fact one, while all others are mirror reflections of same object.

Second, let me tell something about "The Nature Of Ultimate Reality" . The Nature Of Ultimate Reality is not similar to the Object just described above. Yes, I can tell you this much, its nature is something which we cannot conceive with our nature gifted senses or scietifically developed methods or modles till date! However, it has no property and also has all the known properties...... dear, all this is beyond conception!!!!
Another scietific explanation would make you understand this as well.
Suppose there are five friends. Four of them have tasted sugar and well know what is sweetness. Even if, all the four friends do their level best to make their fifth friend understand what is sweetess they won't succeed. He can realise, what sweetness is only when he actually himself tastes sugar!!! Again, he won't be able to make other fellow describe what he has realised!!!!!

THAT IS WHY, IT IS SAID IN THE BEGINING THAT ULTIMATE REALITY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DESCRIBE IN ANY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION, EVEN BY THOSE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY REALISED THE ULTIMATE REALITY!!!!!

Coming to your tried model, it is really a good try and full of appreciation to you for that!!!! Based on what I have said above, something can be deduced from your hard formed model:

1. The number of dimension are not finite but infinite! not 11 as selected by you.

2. Yes, sphere represents well to describe the ultimate reality!

3. Centre of the sphere can be considered as ULTIMATE REALITY with radius ranging
from -infinity to +infinity and also having the main vertex of convergence as well as
divergence! projecting in all the possible directions!!!

4. All other verices, which can exist anywhere any time whithin the sphere act as
innumerable number of mirrors producing illusionary images viz Whole of Unverse
expanding as ever found by science!!!!

5. The person can realise the ultimate reality only, when he can cross the barrier of
illusion of DUALITY!!!! In other words can supass his own self-consciousness
consciousnessly!!!????? very tough, nobody knows!!! Even those who know won't be
able to tell. One has to realise himself only!!!!!

6. THAT STAGE IS AT VERTEX CENTRE OF SPHERE!!!

7. I CAN TELL YOU VIVIDLY IN THAT STAGE, PERSON WILL BE ASTONISHED TO
FIND ONE IN ALL AND ALL IN ONE!!!! :confused: OR WHAT :) ????????/

[Jack]

I'm almost afraid to wade into this one, but I did notice one sentence that was a little misleading.

They (computers) are really starting to blur the line between data processing, and intelligence.

Not entirely. A binary computer is really good at math. Our brains are less talented in the field because they are not binary. We operate at an analog level, and use a lot of "fuzzy logic" to think. If you smaell a rose, and your grandmother used to raise roses, there's a chance your mind will be flooded with images of your grandmother. You'll recall conversations with her, you'll get a mental image of her, etc. There's no way a binary computer could do that. It can only amass data then compute the result. We are still a long way from figuring out how to get a computer to think the way we do.
Good luck with your hypothesis, though. At the very least, these kind of exercises keep the old neurons stimulated.

[Prometheus]

I start thinking about stuff like that late at night too. That and world domination. Ok - mainly world domination.







...they still think I'm kidding...

[Kuldeep]

[quote=Isherwood]We are still a long way from figuring out how to get a computer to think the way we do.[/QUOTE

Definitely correct thought! Anytime, some day if that is possible, I am sure THAT won't be named Computer but man made MAN!!!!!

While writing a post in trying to explain THE NATURE OF REALITY, a thought came to me to compare Computer with Man, but some how in the process of writing my mind went in some other direction. Truly speaking this does not happen with computer!!!! This very is the difference!!!!

In the both the cases of brain and computer, we have memory chips activated with electronic pulses and memory is stored. Computer cannot reproduce and recollect the specific stored memory data without the help of human mind responsible for storing it. where as, human brain can apparently reproduce the specific data without the help of human minds responsible for storing it (say parent or teachers or colleague.) I will again put forth my silly point. It is not Neuron or electrical activity which, is behind reproduction and recollection of sored data in human brain. All these are techniques to get it done. But then real doer is one of the vertex as per the model postulated by Rave7pt0 which is called Mr "A" (abstract noun).

Making the difference between Computer and Human mind bit more clear, I would like to share outcome of my special finding with others. Right from my childhood, I was wondering when our eyes are closed, how do we see very clear dreams. I do not want to discuss what science talks about dreams here!!! My next inquisition was then, do Blind person see dreams. I felt as a child, when we dream with eyes closed then they must also be able to see dream!!!! Till I turned 45 years old, I did not dare to ask this question to any blind person, I thought any blind person may mind asking such question!!

Somehow, I could put this question to one colleague of mine, who was not blind but was deaf and dumb. His this disability had come due to severe Mums problem in the childhood. His mother taught him lip movement laguage. That way he was following three laguages, mother tongue, english and hindi only when, he would look at you. And at the same time he was able to speak also but in distorted tone. His reply was yes he does see dreams. but in no dream he has heard any sound. He communicates in exactly in the same manner as he is doing in waking stage. Then after few more years I managed to ask the question to born blind person. He too confirmed that he also does see dreams, but again no lights, no colours. He goes on like a blind person only in the dream also.

From both the findings I concluded, what is fed to human or any other animal brain that only is reproduced or recollected. That is why english child speak english and french speak french.This is quite similar to computer. What ever data, songs, vidio etc. is fed to it only that can be reproduced back. In case of computer for reproduction of specific data we rquire a human mind. But for human or animal brain, no apparent outside help is required. But the REALTY IS THAT OUT SIDE HELP IS TAKEN WHICH IS CALLED THE PERSON MR. "A", WHO IS HELPING TO PRODUCE ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY IN THE BRAIN AND THEN GUIDING TO RECOLLECT/REPRODUCE ANY SPECIFIC EVENT, ALSO HELPS TO FORM EMOTIONS, ENJOY, GRIEVE AND THE LIKE. I MAY ADD THAT SAME PERSON WHO HELPS IN ONE FRAME, HELPS ANOTHER AFTER DEATH (COMING OUT) OF OLD FRAME WHICH, IS CALLED RE-INCARNATION!!!! THAT IS PARTIAL REALITY!!! THE FULL REALITY IS EVERY THING IS ILLUSION, ONLY SUPRA SUPREME EXISTS AS EXPLAINED IN MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD!!!!