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Old Nov 8, 2006, 07:58 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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1037 Absurdities in the Bible

skeptic's annotated bible

Pick and choose what you like, dislike, agree, or disagree with. I like em all. :]


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 03:57 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Wow that site really tears the bible to shreds. Makes you wonder how some people buy into such a crock of shit cult manual. Quite disconcerting to think that in millions of peoples minds, that story is their reality of how we came to be.

Love god's rules concerning how men should treat their slaves especially. How divine of him!
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 05:31 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Lull?? Did you post this at ODN? LOL Good luck defending this. It will be fun to watch.
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 05:44 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Wow, hostile crowd over at ODN.
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 05:48 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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My uncle told me he'd give me $100 for every contradiction I found in the bible he gave me with 26 different translations old testament and new. Now, less for the money, more to prove him wrong, is there anyone who can find a viable contradiction in the bible? I'm not talking these unfathomable things that God did , but something in the bible that specificly contradicts itself. For the first time, my uncle explained in the bible, it is written that there is no free will, and at first, I thought it was a contradiction, but he showed me where it wasn't. Anywho, for curiosity's sake, does anyone know?


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 07:24 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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My uncle told me he'd give me $100 for every contradiction I found in the bible he gave me with 26 different translations old testament and new. Now, less for the money, more to prove him wrong, is there anyone who can find a viable contradiction in the bible? I'm not talking these unfathomable things that God did , but something in the bible that specificly contradicts itself.
NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
Numbers 33:38 (King James Version)
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38 And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month.

DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera
Deuteronomy 10:6 (King James Version)
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6 And the children of Israel took their journey from Beeroth of the children of Jaakan to Mosera: there Aaron died, and there he was buried; and Eleazar his son ministered in the priest's office in his stead.

source: Biblical Inconsistencies (Biblical Contradictions?), by Donald Morgan
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 08:36 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
Numbers 33:38 (King James Version)
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38 And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month.

DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera
Deuteronomy 10:6 (King James Version)
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6 And the children of Israel took their journey from Beeroth of the children of Jaakan to Mosera: there Aaron died, and there he was buried; and Eleazar his son ministered in the priest's office in his stead.

source: Biblical Inconsistencies (Biblical Contradictions?), by Donald Morgan
So often, what is touted as "contradiction" is simply a problem with our understanding; not with the Biblical text itself.

Simple research of about 5 minutes, revealed the following taken first, from Unger's Bible Dictionary:
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"Mosera – “the thirty-ninth station of the Israelites in the desert, between Jakan and Gudgoda; (Deut.10:6), evidently near Mt Hor, since Aaron is said to have died there…exact location is uncertain."
This cannot be so named a contradiction as stated above, simply since the exact location is "uncertain," but it is certain that Mosera would be quite close to "Mount Hor."

This Biblical text is not meant to be a lesson in grade three geography. It is like me saying: "O! I was born in Ontario!" yet, that doesn't really tell you exactly where I was born, until I tell you the name of the city. Likewise, "Mosera" is close enough to Mt Hor, as to be used synonymously with Mt Hor by some Bible writers.

Actually, on a closer reading of the surrounding text in both Deut. and Numbers, we can see the point of it is how stubborn the people were in their unbelief.


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 08:55 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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1037? My first thought was - is that all?

For proper marketing perhaps a 1,001 might make for a better title.

The same group also has lists for Intolerance in the Bible , Cruelty and Violence in the Bible , and Contradictions in the Bible . Useful when Chrsitian bigots start attacking teh Koran. The Bible is equally full of nasty verses.

Here is also a discussion of Internal consistency and the Bible.


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 09:21 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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The reason THIS atheist never uses this site to show contradictions in the bible is because as DTB pointed out most if not all can be rationally answered. This site assumes that every single word in the bible is the direct written word of god, and even today, a rational christian wouldn't admit that it was. It was written by men, and apparently only the parts that say "And the LORD says... or God says or Jesus said.... are the literal parts. Which, when you break it down, God/Jesus didn't say all that much LOL. So if any of these can show contradictions in what GOD SAID, then you may have an argument, but I doubt it.
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 01:51 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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skeptic's annotated bible

Pick and choose what you like, dislike, agree, or disagree with. I like em all. :]
Skeptics Annotated Bible: Index of 'alleged' Contradictions
Response to Skeptic's Annotated Bible
http://www.tektoonics.com/parody/sab.html
The SAB author answered

Pick and choose the refutations and debunkings to the SAB as you like, dislike, agree or disagree with. I like 'em all.

What "clever" debate.
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 07:52 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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The same group also has lists for Intolerance in the Bible , Cruelty and Violence in the Bible , and Contradictions in the Bible . Useful when Chrsitian bigots start attacking teh Koran. The Bible is equally full of nasty verses.

Here is also a discussion of Internal consistency and the Bible.
Do you have anything to say to the specifics I posted above; or do you just intend to call me (or other Christians) a "Christian Bigot;" and leave me with a bunch of links to which it would take one 6 months to reply to in full? You could try being more specific in your point to be made, by narrowing it down a bit, so that I know what to reply to.

The Bible is full of "nasty verses;" because it does not seek to cover up the ugly stuff like many of us do.

As I have shown above; most so called "contradictions" in the Bible actually are not that at all. There is enough unity and cohesiveness in the Bible to disprove most Contradiction Theories I have ever heard. :confused:


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 08:26 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. (Ezekiel 4:12 KJV)
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Old Nov 9, 2006, 10:14 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. (Ezekiel 4:12 KJV)
lol!!!
Dear Abdullah

I find myself sincerely wondering just why you would comment to that verse in Ez.4:12, with the insinuated tone that you used. I find myself wondering how much you would like this verse, were you in the place of one of the inhabitants of Jerusalem at that time. The said captives, in the straightness of the seige had no wood or other fuel left for burning; and as the seige continued, animal dung was used, and still later, their own. I wonder just how much you would like your eggs in the morning - should they be cooked on one of their fires.


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 10:43 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Although this is rather hilarious, i feel sorry for the person who actually thought going through and reading the entire bible searching for absurdities would fix or prove anything because 1. it wont and 2. he had to read the entire bible.

Additionally, those arguing against contradictions in the Bible are probably stupid too, for there are contradictions in the Bible. And, although the site may be assuming every word of the Bible to be God, divine, and true, you must remember that MANY people DO literally use the Bible daily to corroborate statements and beliefs. This does pretty accurately shoot those literalists down.


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Old Nov 9, 2006, 10:45 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Although this is rather hilarious, i feel sorry for the person who actually thought going through and reading the entire bible searching for absurdities would fix or prove anything because 1. it wont and 2. he had to read the entire bible.
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Old Nov 10, 2006, 09:57 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Do you have anything to say to the specifics I posted above; or do you just intend to call me (or other Christians) a "Christian Bigot;" and leave me with a bunch of links to which it would take one 6 months to reply to in full? You could try being more specific in your point to be made, by narrowing it down a bit, so that I know what to reply to.

The Bible is full of "nasty verses;" because it does not seek to cover up the ugly stuff like many of us do.
As I wasn't responding your post I had nothing to say to its specifics.

Are you a Christian bigot? I don't know. You tell me. Most Christians aren't. However, lots of Christians have taken to quoting the Koran to demonstrate how horrible Islam is while completely ignoring verses that every bit as ugly as anything in the so called "sword verses of the Koran. Most Christians seem happy quoting the Ten Commandments while ignoring other sections of the Mosaic code which can be rather offensive at best.


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Old Nov 10, 2006, 10:16 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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The original link sounds like it was written by a mad, ignorant little boy


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Old Nov 10, 2006, 12:26 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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The original link sounds like it was written by a mad, ignorant little boy
A "mad, ignorant little boy" you say? But did he curse his mother or father? Because if he did, the Bible says that he should be put to death. And I'm sure that you would agree, you gotta do what the Bible says.

Leviticus 20:9 (King James Version)
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

Exodus 21:17 (King James Version)
And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

And don't forget Deuteronomy 21:

17 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


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Old Nov 10, 2006, 01:36 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Some words don't hold the same meaning, or weren't even around at the time, like curse. I'm sure it wasn't "I hate you mom and dad, and I curse you". I believe discipline or something along those lines was necessary at the time; also, much in the Old Testament was changed after the Jesus Christ came.


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Old Nov 10, 2006, 04:17 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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So there you go - picking and choosing the Bible verses that you like and ignoring the rest. Practical, at least. I'll give you that.


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