New Testament

[Paul]

The New Testament was compiled in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicea. The Emperor Constantine convened the council to settle any disputes that occurred. Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, JESUS' birthday and the day of Easter, and etc. By this time some writings have been lost and destroyed, also some writings may have been omitted and some changes may have been made in putting together the New Testament. The gospels relates to the life and death of JESUS, and also His Sermon on the Mount, His parables, about who shall be able to enter the kingdom of God are written in the gospels. JESUS also spoke of the King to come to bring together those that will inherit kingdom of God on earth, and gave warning of false prophets and false Christs that would decieve the very elect, if it were possible.

Thirteen of twenty seven letters or writings were written as they were Saul/St.Paul words, some were written before the gospels. It seems that many of Paul's letters were written about 50 AD and the gospels were written about 68-100 AD. Saul/St.Paul forceful preaching had the ability of framing, influencing, and promoting his own ideology before the other New Testament books were written. By 200 A.D., Christianity had already gone off the rails from JESUS's original GOSPEL OF LOVE, and was well on its way to becoming precisely the kind of hierarchal and VIOLENCE-BASED system, that JESUS had rebelled against. By the third century Saul/St.Paul's teaching's gave birth to an entirely new religion, to the satifaction of The Emperor Constantine, which came to have less and less to do with its supposed founder, the JESUS that is in oneness with his FATHER in heaven.


Peace be with you, Paul

[PhanthomOps]

Paul,

Good points.......Don't forget that the New Testament also includes the miracles of JESUS, and that 54+ Old Testament Prophecies were fulfilled by HIS life on earth.

Christanity is a personal daily walk with GOD (FATHER, SON ((JESUS)) and HOLY SPIRIT).

Regretfull, most (not all) men have poluted it and manipulated it for personal gain and fame. They will of course have to answer for their actions, as we will all do one day.

[Gorgo]

Jesus of Nazareth probably never existed. If you'll notice, even Paul doesn't mention him at all.

[Ralph38449]

Gorgo--

I trust he was real yet what I believe in no religion.

Now the Romans never mention Judus yet does that meen he never existed.

Not so rough these people care about being politically correct.

(I am aware I can't spell)

[Gorgo]

Lots of problems with the story, Ralph. No accounts of Herrod's genocide of young boys, no contemporary accounts of Jesus life, Paul's neglect to talk about the life of Jesus of Nazareth, etc., etc., etc.

[CJFreeman]

By 200 A.D., Christianity had already gone off the rails from JESUS's original GOSPEL OF LOVE, and was well on its way to becoming precisely the kind of hierarchal and VIOLENCE-BASED system, that JESUS had rebelled against.

Paul,

Your whole article was interesting, and a good recap of some historical points. I isolated the above quote because I take difference with it, as does Christ by His own words: "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword" (Matt. 10:34 ff., ESV).

In citing this, I would like to point out that God's love is markedly different than our ideas of love. His love does not permit blemish, stain, or sin. In that sense, it is exclusive and set apart. In other words, God's love is not seperate from His holiness. So saying, those who refuse God's love are in a position to rightfully receive His wrath. Both characteristics of God are part of His salvific message.

I freely admit that love motivates the gospel, but it seems to me that Christ's gospel was a gospel of salvation. In this sense, love is the driving force, but salvation is the destination.

Also, Christ did not rebel against a hierarchical and violence-based system. If He rebelled at all -- which seems an odd qualifier to place on God, who is sovereign -- it was against disbelief, the cause of all sin and hatred in the world.

What are your thoughts?

Christopher J. Freeman

[Paul]

JESUS spoke against a hierarchical and violence-based system, which Satan's system.

---" Why callest me good? there is none good but one: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep my commandments --- If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow ME. ( Matt.19:17-26 )

--- "Thou shalt love the lord thy God with all thy heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two comandments hang all the law and the prophets."(Matt.:22:37-40).

---"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:35).

---"Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you ---" ( Matt.5:43-48 )

---"Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you ---" ( Luke 6:27-38 )

--- "love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again: and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." ( Luke 6:27-38 )

---"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your FATHER which is in heaven is perfect."( Matt. 6:48 ). Jesus would not command us to be perfect if it were not possible. JESUS has shown mankind way to the kingdom of God on earth and in heaven

"do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again:" By not doing the will of JESUS, God's love is not granted.

Peace be with you, Paul

[PhanthomOps]

CJFreeman:

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"I would like to point out that God's love is markedly different than our ideas of love. His love does not permit blemish, stain, or sin. In that sense, it is exclusive and set apart."

God knowing we are not perfect, realizes that we whether we want to or not continue to sin in one way or another. That is why the following passages among many more are in His Word, the Bible:

James 5:16 - "Confess your trespasses (sins) to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much."

I John 1:9 - "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all untighteousness."

Quote:
"Your whole article was interesting, and a good recap of some historical points. I isolated the above quote because I take difference with it, as does Christ by His own words: "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword" (Matt. 10:34 ff., ESV)."

The sword as mentioned was not destruction - it was through His presence while on earth, and the disciples / appostles who would follow would challenge man to realize and acknowledge their sins, repent and turn to God.

Consider this in His words - Mark 10:45 - For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."