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Old Oct 27, 2006, 06:23 am   #21 (permalink) (top)
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No, I am proud to be a Californian and a Los Angelean
Californa and LA are parts of the US, LA is a very important city to the US, so if your proud to be californian, why arent you proud to be an american?
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Old Oct 27, 2006, 10:17 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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The Theocracy has evolved to a Hypocracy

I saw a clever line

"Hypococlypse Now"
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Old Oct 27, 2006, 11:39 am   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I LOVE AMERICA It's ideas are based on so much freedom in the world. Today I just went to NYC at the WTC memorial and walked the brooklyn bridge and had lunch in chinatown. I love the melting pot that america is. It's a great country unfortunately filled with retards (including GWB). To be American is to believe in the ideals of our forefathers, Equality, freedom, (excluging womens rights, slavery, theism). But no...America was not meant to be a THEOCRACY!! And that's what it's become unfortunately. I feel good to be a 1776 American excluding women/gay rights and slavery. But by no means am I a fat lazy 2006 American.
Ah, since you mention world hunger. We need to start with the trade agreements of the US and things like big business buying up land for cash crops, that the people in the country desperately need for food crops. We do not stand for liberty and freedom around the world. 9/11 was a protest of what we do stand for around the world. Our global ecomonic policies that are enforced with our military might, is hurting many places in the world.
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Old Oct 27, 2006, 12:01 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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First and foremost, it perhaps means for most people to either go to school, or work a job. Americans are too preoccupied making a living, housing themsleves, and raising their families, in order to get too involved in the platitudes we examine here.

To me personally, it is all about being an individual and maintaining an individual identity in a time where politicians are increasing their pressure upon people to all be the same. It is all about resisting the pressures from a nation that is growing increasingly totalitarian through socialist and communist ideology by encouraging people to abdicate the authority of their own lives over to the nanny statists and elites who think they know better for me than I do for myself.

It is with all my might that I will resist these people, and their overbearing powers, until I breathe my final breath.

I relish in the founding philosophies of this country that are all too often being run over roughshod by people who have no clue what the founding philosophies were in this great experiment called democracy. And if these people who are destroying Liberty and Freedom are consciously participating in its destruction, then they are even more dangerous than I currently think today.

Americans should be proud of their heritage. Americans should be proud of their nation. However, Americans need to be vigilant of their government because too many people are increasingly unaware of their government's actions and the philosopny supporting those actions. What people know of their government they increasingly become ashamed of and equate this with the Nation. However, the Nation is the population that comprises its borders and not just the government. When the people allow the government to lead them astray because they are too busy in their livelihoods to take care, then the Nation arrives at the state in which it finds itself today. We are represented by a government that increasingly no longer reflects the values of its people. No wonder people are ashamed to admit they are Americans. It is no wonder to me that people are being taught to hate America.

This will only get worse unless the people of this nation awaken to the reality that both the Democratic and Republican Parties have failed its people. The rebirth of individual responsibility will reignite the fires of individualism that are rooted in the founding philosophies of this nation. There is no room for collectivism in our pursuit of Liberty in America. Americans must desert, once and for all, these antiquated political parties and return to the individual responsibility for their own lives. Anything less will spell the certain destruction of the America founded and established by our courageous forefathers. I raise my glass in a toast to Liberty and wish for all Americans to drink as well..
You do have things of value to say, so I may stay involved for awhile.

Education for technology for military and industrial purpose began in 1958, and that is preparing students to be products for industry, like being prepared for the Borg. This education is what brought Germany to the New World Order, which is about using military might to secure global markets and resources. It has nothing to do with preparing the world for economic independence and democracy. Obviously we can not spread democracy with war! Iraq was not prepared to be a democracy and we loosing it as we lost Vietnam, and Arabs are not going to be as forgiving as Vietnamese.

We had liberal education, and this is how to prepare people for economic independence and liberty. It does a much better job of preparing students for life in general and would greatly reduce the suffering we are experiencing now, and the apparent need for a police state and centralized power that completely crushes individual power and liberty.

We can do several things. The most important is to return public education to liberal education as soon as possible. It may never happen in my life time, but before I die, as many people as I can reach through letters to the editor, e-mails, forums, and my other activities, will hopeful have enough understanding to start looking into this themselves, and will then also try to build understanding of the importance of liberal education to democracy and saving our nation from being what we fought against.
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Old Oct 27, 2006, 12:47 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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You do have things of value to say, so I may stay involved for awhile.

Education for technology for military and industrial purpose began in 1958, and that is preparing students to be products for industry, like being prepared for the Borg. This education is what brought Germany to the New World Order, which is about using military might to secure global markets and resources. It has nothing to do with preparing the world for economic independence and democracy. Obviously we can not spread democracy with war! Iraq was not prepared to be a democracy and we loosing it as we lost Vietnam, and Arabs are not going to be as forgiving as Vietnamese.

We had liberal education, and this is how to prepare people for economic independence and liberty. It does a much better job of preparing students for life in general and would greatly reduce the suffering we are experiencing now, and the apparent need for a police state and centralized power that completely crushes individual power and liberty.

We can do several things. The most important is to return public education to liberal education as soon as possible. It may never happen in my life time, but before I die, as many people as I can reach through letters to the editor, e-mails, forums, and my other activities, will hopeful have enough understanding to start looking into this themselves, and will then also try to build understanding of the importance of liberal education to democracy and saving our nation from being what we fought against.

You have echoed more of my sentiments very nicely.


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