Is Islam Really a Religion of Terror?

[Athena]

Quote by: Masoom Listen to both sides please and then reply who do you think is the terrorists. Please both sides not one. thank you and enjoy the facts Yahoo! Audio File Download Detail for shadow2.ram

I believe the problem begins with the ancient, and common, belief in patron God's, which the Catholic church reframed as a belief in patron saints. This god or saint has supernatural powers to protect the people who attach themselves to this god or saint. Originally, these patron gods were territorial, protecting and granting favors to people who lived in a particular city. These localized gods, evolved slowly to the universal concept of God we hold today, and the understanding of how to please or displease this God, has changed.

Anyway, all the God of Abraham religions hold the same belief in the reality of this God, who was clearly a tribal god, that cared more about the people of this tribe than any other human beings. As other war gods, this God enabled people to win wars, and was okay with the tribe invading and killing every man, woman and child who was not of the tribe. The problem comes with the religion and is not exclusive to Islam.

[GodBlessAmerica]

Yes Islam is a form of terror these days after the Madrases converted so many to radicalism.

I think it is beholden to the so-called moderates (who never speak against terror) to convert their own religion back to peace.

By the way, where is the Fatwa and Jihad against Osama Bin Laden and radical Islam by the people of Islam?
Notice it doesn't exist and that is why it is going to gather lots of more world wide negative attention.

[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: Athena This god or saint has supernatural powers to protect the people who attach themselves to this god or saint.

No, at least regarding Catholics, they are to at most to ask Saints to pray with them to God for their special interest. They are not supposed to pray to saints like they are God, that is ignorant and something you find among the uneducated.
I might even ask my own mother to pray with me for my needs, just as we might Mary or saints.
God gets the prayers and is everything, not these other casts of characters.

[tinybear]

Muhammad, Islam, and Terrorism

[Athena]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica No, at least regarding Catholics, they are to at most to ask Saints to pray with them to God for their special interest. They are not supposed to pray to saints like they are God, that is ignorant and something you find among the uneducated. I might even ask my own mother to pray with me for my needs, just as we might Mary or saints. God gets the prayers and is everything, not these other casts of characters.

I do not think we should be judging religions with our modern consciousness, nor should we judge everyone based on our own personal experience. Historically patron gods became patron saints, and things like their bones or personal items were suppose to have supernatural powers. there was a time when possession of such was required for building a church.

The debate within the church about religious icons and superstitious notions associated with such icons, ripped Constantinople apart at least twice, weaken Constantinople so badly the Ottoman Empire was able to conquer it. The key stone to religion is superstitious notions. Believing in a supernatural being of good and a supernatural being of evil is, superstition. All religious people share this superstitious world view. They just argue about the details of this superstitious reality and who God favors the most. Calling a god, the one true god, does not change this superstition into something that is not a belief in the supernatural. Within the superstition are ideas of humans with supernatural powers, and objects with supernatural powers. You can label some of this ignorance, but it is on the same side of the fense.

It would be a huge step forward, if religious people would stop denying that religion is superstition. They argue for a supernatural reality and then against superstition. That is crazy making.

And GodBlessAmerica, who do you think Jesus would ask God to bless?
If the words of Jesus are to have any positive value, it is to unite humanity, not divide humanity. While what makes religion good is uniting people, what makes it bad is dividing them.

[Masoom]

Quote by: Gabe2007 There may be extremists for every religion...but last time I checked, Christians and Buddhists weren't on TV telling their followers to kill every Muslim on the Earth.

That’s because media choose to show Islam as a religion of terror. How many MUSLIMS get killed everyday by Jewish and Christians but hey here you would say not Jewish but Israel and not Christians but Americans army!!! How many Bangladeshi, Indian or Muslims from Senegal was found to be involved in terrorist attacks?

Quote by: Gabe2007 And Islam does promote terrorism. Obviously the Koran doesn't say it plainly but in many verses, Muhammad tells his followers to kills Jews and Christians "where ever you may find them"...can you tell me how that is peaceful?? Im pretty you've come upon verses showing peace to one's neighbors, however, those verses are revoked by the newer revelations that Muhammed received. This is so because of a rule that Muslim scholars themselves have determined. It says that if two verses (concepts) are found to be contradictory, the newer revelations shall be heeded. And as you know, Muhammed became more violent towards the end of his life. so all this about how the religion is peaceful and there are only a few who destroy the real meaning is pure crap. If you question most muslims, they would want to "wipe Israel of the face of the Earth"...can you tell me how that is peaceful??

Your statement just proves you know nothing about Islam. Scholars could right what they want, that doesn't mean they have to be right. Salman Rushdie calls him self a Muslim and wrote a book on satanic ideologies does that make all Muslims like him? In Islam we are thought to only follow the Quran and Shahi Hadith. Quran is written in Arabic and many people translate many ways that doesn't mean they all are right?

Islam does not allow any crime, and killing any innocent is strictly forbidden. Islam also teaches us that committing suicide achieves nothing but hell, so people killing innocent and committing suicide are no way following Islam.

Another reason most western people see Islam as a religion of terror is because of 9 11, but then how can you say those people committing that crime were really Muslims. A Muslim who is about to die for his religion will not be drinking in a pub and leave a Quran in a car where he never will return!!! So if they were Muslims then they were not following the religion or they weren’t Muslims at all.
Before saying Muslims only promote terror, check the facts! Have you ever checked how many people die everyday in Palestine, how many woman was raped and brutally murdered in Bosnia, how many was burnt alive in India (Madras) and how many everyday now being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in the name of war on terror.

[jamesbdunn]

In Iran the Mula (also spelled Mola) control the country. They are NOT religious persons of faith, they are corrupt and self-serving politicians; very similar, if not identical, to the Dons of the Italian Mafia ( Howstuffworks "How the Mafia Works" ).

Mula claim to have direct guidance from God, but everyone in Iran knows that is a farce. But the Mula control a large number of private mercenaries to enforce their will. The Rich in Iran pay the Mula to be left alone; protecting their own assets.

The Rich in Iran can easily produce businesses throughout Iran to provide employment for the poor; so the poor can feed themselves. However, the Mula prevent the Rich from establishing businesses that would employ the poor! This is intentional. By having malnourished poor people, the Mula maintain a resource of cheap thugs for doing their will. The poor only want to eat, and the Mula are the only source for bread crumbs.

The Rich control the Mula to some degree by keeping their businesses out of poor areas, and providing strictly controlled access to education. If the Rich do not comply, then the Mula have to step up their destructive actions towards the Rich. So a balance is maintained between the Rich and the Mula.

The whole system of corruption is held in place by the glue of money and starvation. If the poor people were reliably fed, the system of corruption would fall apart. If the flow of money was stopped, the system of corruption would fall apart.

When dealing with Iran, the actions taken must be within the context of dealing with Organized Crime; not religious zealots.