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Old Jan 11, 2007, 07:32 pm   #1141 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, but all current christain religions branched off the christianity Constantine created, he did not create catholicism, he created christianity as we know it today.

What's a holly roller? what do you mean by extremist? You do realize that the bible was put together a considerable amount of time after Jesus, He had nothing to do with its composition.


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 07:55 pm   #1142 (permalink) (top)
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You do realize that the bible was put together a considerable amount of time after Jesus, He had nothing to do with its composition.
Some Holy Rollers and many others believe that God (and they believe Jesus is God, after all) inspired the Bible and its translation into the KJV bible.


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:00 pm   #1143 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, but there seems to be this myth that the bible actually came down from heaven or something, it is obviously flawed, it's written by humans, inspired or not.


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:08 pm   #1144 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, but there seems to be this myth that the bible actually came down from heaven or something, it is obviously flawed, it's written by humans, inspired or not.
A flawed divine inspiration?


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:09 pm   #1145 (permalink) (top)
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No, a flawed human putting his own biases into a divine inspiration.


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 09:08 pm   #1146 (permalink) (top)
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No, a flawed human putting his own biases into a divine inspiration.
Why believe it was divinely inspired to begin with?


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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:19 pm   #1147 (permalink) (top)
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No reason, I'm assuming that because we're talking about christian theology.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 11:22 am   #1148 (permalink) (top)
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Are you Christian, G.M.?

If so, do you believe Jesus was the son of God, and the Bible is his message?


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 04:25 pm   #1149 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, I am a christian, but I refuse to become involved in such a discussion.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 05:33 pm   #1150 (permalink) (top)
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So....

Are you a Christian Universalist?


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:16 pm   #1151 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, but all current christain religions branched off the christianity Constantine created, he did not create catholicism, he created christianity as we know it today.

What's a holly roller? what do you mean by extremist? You do realize that the bible was put together a considerable amount of time after Jesus, He had nothing to do with its composition.
Then your obviousley not a Christian. According to you Christ had nothing to do with the writing the Bible, that's ludricrious, He isnsired the people that wrote the Bible, to deny that is blasphemous.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:21 pm   #1152 (permalink) (top)
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Then your obviousley not a Christian. According to you Christ had nothing to do with the writing the Bible, that's ludricrious, He isnsired the people that wrote the Bible, to deny that is blasphemous.
Perhaps he does not consider it blasphemous, but still has a personal relationship with Jesus?

You should squash that dogmatic thinking in you.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:38 pm   #1153 (permalink) (top)
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So....

Are you a Christian Universalist?
What do you mean by that? and thank you for defending me, it's ludicrous to expect the bible to be perfect, I meant that Jesus as a person did not write the bible.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:41 pm   #1154 (permalink) (top)
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Perhaps he does not consider it blasphemous, but still has a personal relationship with Jesus?

You should squash that dogmatic thinking in you.
If he doesn't consider it blasphemous that's his opinion, I don't have to answer for other people when I die and go in front of the Lord. As for be dogmitic, I don't see it that way, I read the Bible, I'm not being authoritative but I can't for the life of me how one can say as he did and have read the Bible. What I wrote was elementary, very much so.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:43 pm   #1155 (permalink) (top)
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If he doesn't consider it blasphemous that's his opinion, I don't have to answer for other people when I die and go in front of the Lord. As for be dogmitic, I don't see it that way, I read the Bible, I'm not being authoritative but I can't for the life of me how one can say as he did and have read the Bible. What I wrote was elementary, very much so.
Yes, very elementary.


What evidence do you have that the whole of the Bible was divinely inspired?


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:43 pm   #1156 (permalink) (top)
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Where does the Bible claim it was inspired by God? you verge on going outside the bible. Sounds Catholicish.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:46 pm   #1157 (permalink) (top)
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Where does the Bible claim it was inspired by God? you verge on going outside the bible. Sounds Catholicish.
Paul, in one of his letters, claimed that scripture was divinely inspired. Obviously, he was referring to those writings that he considered scripture. I am aware of nothing to say that Paul believed his own letters to be divinely inspired.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:49 pm   #1158 (permalink) (top)
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Exactly, I believe that the Bible is a source of truth if read correctly, maybe even the "word of God", but to claim that christians can't get spiritual guidence from anywhere else is stupid. Not to mention that Paul could've meant any number of Gospels floating around at the time.


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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:10 pm   #1159 (permalink) (top)
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Where does the Bible claim it was inspired by God? you verge on going outside the bible. Sounds Catholicish.
Ha ha. Whyever would you describe 'going outside the bible' as 'Catholicish'? Please support this accusation.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:24 pm   #1160 (permalink) (top)
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I'm catholic, I was making a point to nam. It was he who made that accusation in the first place, read the argument before you respond to the last post made.


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