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Jade · Mar 29, 2006, 02:36 pm

I think the biggest problem in the world is base on religious believe. I was born Catholic, now I convert myself to a Baptist Christian. Why? I do that. Because I realize there is some key thing in the bible the Catholic believer does not want to agree with.

Jade · Mar 29, 2006, 02:44 pm

Enventhought your faith is depend on you, you have the rigth to agree that people should respect the others belivers. After death, you have the price to pay for your sin that it is one reasons people should choose their own religion.

Jade · Mar 29, 2006, 02:48 pm

Eventhougth I agree to accept the others religions, I have to do my job by give them the word of God.There is one man who died for us. He gave his life on cross just to get us revive.

Marilyn Monroe · Apr 8, 2006, 09:53 pm

I was raised Roman Catholic. Went to Catholic School, High School. Always thought Catholics were cool, but mean. Started to question it at around 6 or 7 cause I hated Confession. I thought how can this be a good thing. How can the priests and nuns be so mean, and a lot of the people. Just couldn't trust in it. I still always turn to the old ways. I pray to my Mom a lot, and want to see her, so I hold onto it just for that more than anything, but I don't go to church. I stopped going regularly at age 15, and that was it. Just like to sleep in and really hate the anxiety it causes when I enter any church.

Athena · Apr 8, 2006, 10:36 pm

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Eventhougth I agree to accept the others religions, I have to do my job by give them the word of God.There is one man who died for us. He gave his life on cross just to get us revive.

Darling, during the world wars thousands died for us. They believed they were fighting for democracy and everything that made our lives good. I think it is wrong to think of only one man instead of all of them.

Athena · Apr 8, 2006, 10:41 pm

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I was raised Roman Catholic. Went to Catholic School, High School. Always thought Catholics were cool, but mean. Started to question it at around 6 or 7 cause I hated Confession. I thought how can this be a good thing. How can the priests and nuns be so mean, and a lot of the people. Just couldn't trust in it. I still always turn to the old ways. I pray to my Mom a lot, and want to see her, so I hold onto it just for that more than anything, but I don't go to church. I stopped going regularly at age 15, and that was it. Just like to sleep in and really hate the anxiety it causes when I enter any church.

Until looking up gnosticism, I couldn't understand the concept of puratory. The idea of such evil realms perdates Christianity and was foreign to Judaism, until Perian ideas started filtering into Rome. If you want to be free from fears promoted by religion, look into the history and what Persians and Greeks have to do with Christian beliefs.

Also you might look into Buddaism as it shares much with Catholism, especial candles, incents and rosery beads. Which makes more sense after reading about gnosticism.

Lullaby Chainer · Apr 8, 2006, 11:15 pm

I'm a Nihilist at heart.. but that would be conflicting with my beliefs in Atheism..

so I can only really settle for semi-nihilistic / Atheist ^^;;

Meliorative · Apr 18, 2006, 12:46 pm

I do not affiliate with an institution, but i very much like the teachings of Jesus and Buddha.

I feel that meditation and the use of psychedelics can teach us a lot. I'm a pacifist and (as a result) an anarchist, both coming from my spiritual beliefs.

Princeps · Apr 19, 2006, 09:30 pm

^hippiespeak for "Christian, sir... but the churches around here suck."

I'm the same, and my religious beliefs lead me to libertarian political philosophies.

Zhavric · Apr 26, 2006, 09:00 am

Very strong atheist.

opus dei · Apr 26, 2006, 09:00 pm

For contrast,

Roman Catholic,

paper_heart · May 2, 2006, 03:37 pm

I'm not really that religious although I born a Roman Catholic. It's just I can't stand what I hear from religion most of the time, about how homosexuality is wrong and you should not be friends with someone who is a practicing homosexual etc. People say God teaches love, then why would you encourage people to hate someone for who they are?

Latisha1903 · May 14, 2006, 10:24 pm

Born and raised in the Church of Christ. Baptized at age 13. I hold true to all the things my church teaches, and try my best to abide by those teachings. Uncle is my current minister, and grandfather was a minster for over 50 years before his demise in 2000.

Religion plays a major role in my everyday life.

phoenix_fire · May 14, 2006, 11:31 pm

Hmm...this one conveniently escaped my notice. Well, I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'm a Christian. I am evangelical, and extremely committed. I am so much on the far side of what most people expect that I have titled myself a fanatic in my tag line. I don't belong to any denomination (don't get me started on infighting: it really ticks me off). God is present in every aspect of my life (at least, that's the ideal...can't say that I always live up to that). My faith was not inherited. I came about it through reading the Word and actively seeking God. As a matter of fact, while my parents still call themselves Christian, I believe many things that are distinctly different from what they believe. As near as I can tell, my church spawned off from a Church of Christ. There are some differences. We often use musical instruments for example :). But my pastor is a scientist and so am I. You may have already realized that I'm pretty well read up on the stuff that I talk about. Nothing in science, philosophy, psychology or anything else has been able to dissuade me from my faith.

Kuldeep · May 15, 2006, 03:00 am

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Hmm...this one conveniently escaped my notice. Nothing in science, philosophy, psychology or anything else has been able to dissuade me from my faith.

That firm faith in me is that I exist, existed for ever and would exist for ever inspite of my present materialistic body, no matter not exiting everytime!!! What is your faith of such status??? :(

See, such faith can not be dissuaded by science, philosophy, psychology or anything else. This faith of mine is not out come of my religion, faith, preaching or litarary nowledge, but from my own deep concentrated thinking an then feeling!!!

another day · May 15, 2006, 04:09 am

Of course it cannot be dissauded by anything, thats what faith is. Clutching on tight to whatever idea you have even when everything else tells you you are wrong.

And why is that a good thing again? In every case except religion, we have words for that kind of attitude - such as self-delusion, willful ignorance, and stubborness.

phoenix_fire · May 15, 2006, 11:33 am

Call it what you will. You may have figured out by now that I don't care.

another day · May 15, 2006, 07:44 pm

Of course you don't care...sad though.

Kuldeep · May 16, 2006, 02:45 am

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Of course it cannot be dissauded by anything, thats what faith is. Clutching on tight to whatever idea you have even when everything else tells you you are wrong.

And why is that a good thing again? In every case except religion, we have words for that kind of attitude - such as self-delusion, willful ignorance, and stubborness.

While commenting on my idea, you have not paid any attention on my reason for such belief which is "my own deep concentrated thinking an then feeling!!! I would like to add that too in an unbiased manner!!! I can reason out to a person who feels my idea is wrong. But then, what is the need??? As long as my silly idea is not harming second person anyway, it should not be any concern to worry about!!! :)

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Call it what you will. You may have figured out by now that I don't care.

Though, I care to listen others but my reasons for my belief are so sound which others telling possibly won't be able to change that.
But, I only wished to know your that peculiar faith, which is yet to appear in your post!!!!

Kat · May 16, 2006, 05:01 am

was raised catholic, became disillusioned with it around early 20s, the divorce became complete around the time of the pedophile priest scandal.

i've recently had a religious reawakening due to catastrophic world events. a scenario was revealed to me which is really as simple as good vs evil and all you need is love. It wasn't a disembodied voice or anything, just a "knowing" that replaced my paranoia about how governments and the world in general operate with a contented calmness that to see the world for what it is (especially my own government) would put a person on the side of righteousness.

i've raised my children to think for themselves and make logical choices when it comes to religion. consequently, my children are non-believers. how do you think i feel now that i have to tell them i was wrong? (which i have begun to do)

it's not an organized religion i now profess to. call it being spiritually aware.

Mar 29, 2006, 02:36 pm	#841 (permalink) (top)
Jade Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	I think the biggest problem in the world is base on religious believe. I was born Catholic, now I convert myself to a Baptist Christian. Why? I do that. Because I realize there is some key thing in the bible the Catholic believer does not want to agree with. Last edited by Jade; Mar 29, 2006 at 02:57 pm.

Apr 8, 2006, 09:53 pm	#844 (permalink) (top)
Marilyn Monroe dog lover Location: over the rainbow Posts: 1,367	I was raised Roman Catholic. Went to Catholic School, High School. Always thought Catholics were cool, but mean. Started to question it at around 6 or 7 cause I hated Confession. I thought how can this be a good thing. How can the priests and nuns be so mean, and a lot of the people. Just couldn't trust in it. I still always turn to the old ways. I pray to my Mom a lot, and want to see her, so I hold onto it just for that more than anything, but I don't go to church. I stopped going regularly at age 15, and that was it. Just like to sleep in and really hate the anxiety it causes when I enter any church. "My one regret in life is that I'm not somebody else." - Woody Allen

Apr 18, 2006, 12:46 pm	#848 (permalink) (top)
Meliorative Sedimentary Rock Posts: 8	I do not affiliate with an institution, but i very much like the teachings of Jesus and Buddha. I feel that meditation and the use of psychedelics can teach us a lot. I'm a pacifist and (as a result) an anarchist, both coming from my spiritual beliefs. Economic Left/Right: -8.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.44 Last edited by Meliorative; Apr 18, 2006 at 12:46 pm. Reason: Typo..

Apr 26, 2006, 09:00 am	#850 (permalink) (top)
Zhavric Made of pure win. Posts: 3,807	Very strong atheist. Theists: supplying volconvo with lose since 2004.

Apr 26, 2006, 09:00 pm	#851 (permalink) (top)
opus dei numerary Posts: 3	For contrast, Roman Catholic, All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope. Sir Winston Churchill British politician (1874 - 1965)

Mar 29, 2006, 02:44 pm	#842 (permalink) (top)
Jade Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	Enventhought your faith is depend on you, you have the rigth to agree that people should respect the others belivers. After death, you have the price to pay for your sin that it is one reasons people should choose their own religion.

Mar 29, 2006, 02:48 pm	#843 (permalink) (top)
Jade Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	Eventhougth I agree to accept the others religions, I have to do my job by give them the word of God.There is one man who died for us. He gave his life on cross just to get us revive.

Apr 8, 2006, 11:15 pm	#847 (permalink) (top)
Lullaby Chainer Posts: 3,019	I'm a Nihilist at heart.. but that would be conflicting with my beliefs in Atheism.. so I can only really settle for semi-nihilistic / Atheist ^^;;

Apr 19, 2006, 09:30 pm	#849 (permalink) (top)
Princeps Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	^hippiespeak for "Christian, sir... but the churches around here suck." I'm the same, and my religious beliefs lead me to libertarian political philosophies.

May 2, 2006, 03:37 pm	#852 (permalink) (top)
paper_heart Sedimentary Rock Posts: 2	I'm not really that religious although I born a Roman Catholic. It's just I can't stand what I hear from religion most of the time, about how homosexuality is wrong and you should not be friends with someone who is a practicing homosexual etc. People say God teaches love, then why would you encourage people to hate someone for who they are?

May 14, 2006, 10:24 pm	#853 (permalink) (top)
Latisha1903 Sedimentary Rock Posts: 7	Born and raised in the Church of Christ. Baptized at age 13. I hold true to all the things my church teaches, and try my best to abide by those teachings. Uncle is my current minister, and grandfather was a minster for over 50 years before his demise in 2000. Religion plays a major role in my everyday life.

May 14, 2006, 11:31 pm	#854 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Hmm...this one conveniently escaped my notice. Well, I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'm a Christian. I am evangelical, and extremely committed. I am so much on the far side of what most people expect that I have titled myself a fanatic in my tag line. I don't belong to any denomination (don't get me started on infighting: it really ticks me off). God is present in every aspect of my life (at least, that's the ideal...can't say that I always live up to that). My faith was not inherited. I came about it through reading the Word and actively seeking God. As a matter of fact, while my parents still call themselves Christian, I believe many things that are distinctly different from what they believe. As near as I can tell, my church spawned off from a Church of Christ. There are some differences. We often use musical instruments for example :). But my pastor is a scientist and so am I. You may have already realized that I'm pretty well read up on the stuff that I talk about. Nothing in science, philosophy, psychology or anything else has been able to dissuade me from my faith. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

May 15, 2006, 04:09 am	#856 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,996	Of course it cannot be dissauded by anything, thats what faith is. Clutching on tight to whatever idea you have even when everything else tells you you are wrong. And why is that a good thing again? In every case except religion, we have words for that kind of attitude - such as self-delusion, willful ignorance, and stubborness.

May 15, 2006, 11:33 am	#857 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Call it what you will. You may have figured out by now that I don't care. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

May 15, 2006, 07:44 pm	#858 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,996	Of course you don't care...sad though.

May 16, 2006, 05:01 am	#860 (permalink) (top)
Kat Molten Ash Location: Omaha Posts: 33	was raised catholic, became disillusioned with it around early 20s, the divorce became complete around the time of the pedophile priest scandal. i've recently had a religious reawakening due to catastrophic world events. a scenario was revealed to me which is really as simple as good vs evil and all you need is love. It wasn't a disembodied voice or anything, just a "knowing" that replaced my paranoia about how governments and the world in general operate with a contented calmness that to see the world for what it is (especially my own government) would put a person on the side of righteousness. i've raised my children to think for themselves and make logical choices when it comes to religion. consequently, my children are non-believers. how do you think i feel now that i have to tell them i was wrong? (which i have begun to do) it's not an organized religion i now profess to. call it being spiritually aware. Last edited by Kat; May 16, 2006 at 05:08 am.