Learning one's Mind!! Is it really possible???

[Kuldeep]

Soccerfreak in his thread "Why Do YOU Believe" wanted to learn the minds of theists. I wondered if that is really possible in the actual sense. I agree, he never said in the pretext, I am opening the thread. The mind is the most tedious and mysterious organ about which medical science, psychatarists, philosophers all want to know more and more.

One is bound to appreciate the advances being made by psychology branch of medicine to understand the functioning of human mind to a wider extent. Anti-psychotic drugs have played wonders in improving the mental behavior of mentally sick patients. In sum total the drugs go to the specific area of brain, gets secreations of specific chemicals made, affecting the neurochemisry of cells and thus produce appreciable improvement in the person's behavior. The whole thing is simply fantastic!!!

Now the point of debate! A person is respected, shown affection and love. He responds in pleasing fashion and his behavior is quite pleasing one. Now if the same person is disrespected and spoken rudely, his behavior would be unpleasant. Apparently, there is no surprise in it. But the point is when no physical contact like the drug makes with the cells in brain, how come only few verbal sound waves reverse the type of neurochemicals secreated in the cells to have such opposite behavior. I feel psychatarists can throw more light on the subject.

To my mind, somebody is behind the mind, who plays the trick. WHO is that???? Probably the person himself, the Self!!! :(

[Zhavric]

Theistic minds are no different from non-theistic minds. The onle difference is that theists are affected by different memes than non-theists. (see the link in my sig for more info on memes).

[Rive]

I understand my own mind, i know why i do things, why i go crazy, and why i lose control. The only thing you gain from "learning one's mind" is what is wrong. Changing yourself is alot harder. Learning to control one's mind is too.

These drugs change how your mind works (crazy i know) but sometimes all it takes is someone thinking they are fixed. Placeboes can be effective. I'm not quite sure what the question here is but yes, people are molded by their upbringing, and if they don't have any real mental problems they can be "fixed" without drugs. But some people do have mental afflictions (bi-polar syndrome, chronic depression, etc) and the medicine helps. Nothing can be done to truely change them, they were just born that way. (i hope i actually answered your question somewhere in here)

[Milton Bradley]

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Quote by: Kuldeep Now the point of debate! A person is respected, shown affection and love. He responds in pleasing fashion and his behavior is quite pleasing one. Now if the same person is disrespected and spoken rudely, his behavior would be unpleasant. Apparently, there is no surprise in it. But the point is when no physical contact like the drug makes with the cells in brain, how come only few verbal sound waves reverse the type of neurochemicals secreated in the cells to have such opposite behavior. I feel psychatarists can throw more light on the subject.

Are you asking why the mind reacts to what it percieves as ( for example ) hostility?

[Kite]

I am acutely aware of how and why my mind works the way it does. If I am not sure why I feel a certain way or do a certain thing, I have a way of detaching my conciousness from my mind and looking at it objectively. For example, I once wondered why I yelled at my parents when I did not take my medication. I looked at myself objectivley, and discovered that when I do not have my meds I become very moody and susceptable to aggrivation. Its all about self-analasys. However, since my own conciousness is prone to being infulenced by the way my mind precieves reality, the opinion or conclusion I come to when analyzing myself may be, or most likely is, biased based on my personal beliefs or past experiences, especially since these things are critical factors in coming to my conclusion.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Kite I am acutely aware of how and why my mind works the way it does. If I am not sure why I feel a certain way or do a certain thing, I have a way of detaching my conciousness from my mind and looking at it objectively. For example, I once wondered why I yelled at my parents when I did not take my medication. I looked at myself objectivley, and discovered that when I do not have my meds I become very moody and susceptable to aggrivation. Its all about self-analasys. However, since my own conciousness is prone to being infulenced by the way my mind precieves reality, the opinion or conclusion I come to when analyzing myself may be, or most likely is, biased based on my personal beliefs or past experiences, especially since these things are critical factors in coming to my conclusion.

At the out set, I am sorry for responding late. It is a nice piece of first hand experienced information concluding our past critical incidencies do have an effect on our mood. But my question is somewhat different as re-explained below.

Quote by: Milton Bradley Are you asking why the mind reacts to what it percieves as ( for example ) hostility?

Not only why, but the mechanism by which mind does it so. Is it only mind which takes the part in the reaction to the situation or, consciousness which you call yourself as YOU has a role to play?? Is that YOU is a separate identity or, what?? :(

for example the way Kite talked about self analysis. Is it only minds business or self also takes part into decision??

I want to know the way the specific drugs make the mind respond in a changed fashion by physical/chemical or bio-chemical contact, how does type of language (pleasant or harsh one) of second person makes the changes the first person's mind response without any contact as in case of drug intake!!!!

Quote by: Rive (i hope i actually answered your question somewhere in here)

Not exactly!! That is why, I have repeated my doubt again as above!!!!

Theistic minds are no different from non-theistic minds. The onle difference is that theists are affected by different memes than non-theists. (see the link in my sig for more info on memes).

I too feel that theistic minds are no different from non-theistic minds, but my doubt is why and in what way, the mind respond the way it does to the fashion in which he is addressed, or to the situation he comes across in absence of direct contatual effect as in case of mood changing drugs intake. :eek: