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Old Apr 21, 2006, 10:28 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Revelation

Luke 12:2   For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

Reveal: Function: transitive verb 1 : to make known through divine inspiration 2 : to make (something secret or hidden) publicly or generally known <reveal a secret>
3 : to open up to view : DISPLAY <the uncurtained window revealed a cluttered room> synonyms REVEAL, DISCLOSE, DIVULGE, TELL, BETRAY

Revelation: Function: noun 1 a: an act of revealing or communicating divine truth b: something that is revealed by God to humans 2 a: an act of revealing to view or making known b: something that is revealed; especially: an enlightening or astonishing disclosure <shocking revelations> c: a pleasant often enlightening surprise <her talent was a revelation>

As we continue to distinguish the difference between seeing with the physical eyes and knowing in the spiritual mind, let us take a moment so that we can study the dynamics of a revelation. As I had written previously we must understand that there is a chasm that divides the dimensions of seeing and knowing in this physical world. If you did not comprehend anything else from the previous writing, just understand that a revelation is the bridge which connects these two gaps. It is a most important piece.

Without revelation Noah would not have known about the coming judgement (Gen 6:13). Without revelation Lot would not have known about the impendent destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 19:12-13). Without revelation Daniel would not have been able to interpret Nebuchadnezzar’s dreams (Dan 2:20-22) Without revelation the physical eyes are but decorative ornaments for the physical body.

In order for us to fully comprehend the dynamics of a revelation, we must first understand its nature. First understand that any or everything that an individual does not know has the potential to become a revelation.

If you will study the definitions you will see that a revelation arises from a secret, hidden, concealed or unknown agent. This agent may be unknown to an individual or to a general public. In other words a revelation begins in the realm of the unknown. When or after this hidden, concealed, secret or unknown agent is disclosed, divulged, or displayed it then becomes a revelation. The subject or agent has now moved from the realm of the unknown into the realm of the known.
Secondly we must understand that there are 3 constants which are always present in all revelations.

The 1st constant which is present in all revelations is the presence of a revelator. The revelator is the entity who discloses that which is to be revealed, or the revelator is one who reveals the will of God. In the Bible we see examples of humans, angels, the Holy Spirit, and God as revelators (Gen 19:12-13, Dan 2:28, Matt 16:17, Matt 11:27, Luke 2:26, Is 22:14)
The 2nd constant that must be present in all revelations is the object or cause of the revealing. The object or cause, is the person, place, or thing which the revelation has arisen from. During the End-times we see that the two main objects or causes of revelation will be the Man of Sin (Anti-Christ) (2Thess 2:3and8) and Messias (2Thess 1:7, Is 40:5)
The 3rd constant that must be present in all revelations is a recipient or recipients. This is the individual or individuals who receive the revelations. In the Bible we see examples of Noah, Lot, Daniel, Peter, and many others as recipients of various revelations (Gen 6:6, Gen 19:12-13, Dan 2:19, Matt 16:17)

Now let us take a closer look at the most important constituent part of a revelation. The object or cause is the most important part of a revelation. There are 3 things that we must understand about a revelations object or cause.

The object or cause is the seed or source of any revelation. Without the object or cause, a revelation would cease to be. The revelator would not have anything to reveal and the recipient would not have anything to receive. Let’s use Noah for an example. What was the object or cause of Noah’s revelation? The answer is man’s exceeding wickedness (Gen 6:5) Just think about it. If man had not become exceedingly wicked, then there would not have been a need for a judgement. God would not have had anything to reveal and Noah would not have had any revelation to receive.

The object or cause of a revelation is in existence and operating before or at the time of the revelation. It has to because the object or cause causes the revelation. Man’s exceeding wickedness was in existence and operating before and at the time of Noah’s revelation. The Man of Sin (Anti-Christ) and Messias are in existence and operating before and at the times of their revealing (2Thess 2:7)

The object or cause is in existence and operating before or at the time of its revelation regardless of whether you interact with it, see it, or know it. Noah’s ability or inability to interact with, know, or see the wickedness in his surroundings did not change the existence or work of the wickedness. Your ability or inability to interact with, see, or know the Anti-Christ and Messias in your surroundings does not negate their existence or work.





Where there are no secrets or unknowns, there is no revelation.”
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Old Apr 21, 2006, 10:33 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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You missed one more important attribute of religious revelations; you have to first believe in divinity before you can receive one. I've seen no record of god revealing anything to a non-believer that was accepted by the faithful. So divine revelation only operates within the confines of faith.


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Old Apr 21, 2006, 10:39 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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You missed one more important attribute of religious revelations; you have to first believe in divinity before you can receive one. I've seen no record of god revealing anything to a non-believer that was accepted by the faithful. So divine revelation only operates within the confines of faith.
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Old Apr 22, 2006, 04:28 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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You missed one more important attribute of religious revelations; you have to first believe in divinity before you can receive one. I've seen no record of god revealing anything to a non-believer that was accepted by the faithful. So divine revelation only operates within the confines of faith.

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This is not necessarily true. God gives revelation to nonbelievers as well as believers. His revelation, his choice. There are some nonbelievers who are living holier than believers.

This is how nonbelievers become believers. Everyone who is now walking in belief did not start out in belief. Many have believed because of revelation.


1 Timothy 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief.


1 Timothy 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
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Old Apr 22, 2006, 05:22 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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This is how nonbelievers become believers. Everyone who is now walking in belief did not start out in belief. Many have believed because of revelation.
Although most believe because it's what they were taught. I was taught that God exists, but through revelation...

a: an act of revealing to view or making known b: something that is revealed; especially: an enlightening or astonishing disclosure

...came to understand that, in fact, God does not. Quoting from 2,000 year old chronicles of pre-scientific religious mythologists is hardly going to change that.


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