[Continued from above.]
"What is seldom understood here on Earth, however, is that there are also benefits associated with not allowing social expediency to influence your thoughts. The alternative to selective thinking is the truth-finding procedure known as reason, which works as follows:
(1) You state, as clearly as you can, the question to be answered.
(2) You state, as clearly as you can, the various possible answers to that question.
(3) You search for facts and/or logic that contradicts those answers, until you have eliminated all the answers but one.
(4) You accept the answer that remains as the truth, until and unless you discover that you have made an error in steps (1) through (3), above."
"That is roughly the scientific method and many use it."
We all use it, whether we are scientists or not, and whether we are conformists or not. Mechanics use it to figure out what is wrong with an automobile; plumbers use it to figure out why sewers are backing up; and on, and on, and on.
If we didn't use it, we would be unable to cope with the physical world, and would suffer severe adverse consequences, possibly including death.
Conformists, however, recognize at an intuitive level that socially expedient beliefs, even if untrue, also provide benefits, and that sometimes those benefits will also save your life. So while a conformist will use reason in the physical realm--e.g., to figure out why his car won't start--he will not use it in the social realm--e.g., to figure out that there is no God (assuming he is raised by religionists). He would rather have a false belief that will provide him with protective coloration and keep him safe, than have a true belief that will put him in harm's way.
"If you reject selective, socially expedient thinking in favor of reason, you will grow your understanding of the world throughout your life and, when your life ends, your conceptual repertoire will render it virtually impossible for you to be reincarnated on a world like Earth. The reason is that you can only be reborn into a species where the gene pool implants the sorts of understandings you have at the time of your death into the brains of infants. Thus if you understand the value of freedom, you can only be reborn into a species where such understanding is genetically implanted into the brains of infants. That means virtually all members of such a species will be sworn enemies of every form of tyranny, and uncompromising supporters of free societies. Result: in the worlds that they inhabit, tyranny will be impossible, just as it would be impossible here on Earth if everyone did not have a "will to believe" the self-serving lies of predatory elites, and thus did not prevent themselves from ever understanding the importance of being free."
"I suggest if you use the method you will conclude reincarnation does not occur at all."
I have done my best to use reason, and have reached the opposite conclusion. If you think you see a flaw in my extensive presentation, I suggest that you quote the passage in question and explain why you think it is wrong.
"I suggest most human understand the value of freedom throughout most of their life and still we have tyranny. It is because things are never that simple."
Freedom is the state of the man who can reasonably expect that his natural, reason-based rights will not be violated and that, in the unlikely event that they are violated, that the offender will be apprehended, that he will stand accused before a neutral arbiter, that if guilty he will be so found, and that fair punishment will be imposed.
How many people have you known in your life who had the foggiest understanding of any of that?
The reality here on Earth is that virtually no one has the slightest clue that reason-based natural rights even exist, as opposed to "rights" as defined by "the law"--i.e., by the orders of the predatory elite. Nor do they understand what neutral arbitration is, or that the notion of what is "fair" arises out of the nature of reality rather than someone's arbitrary whim.
"Bottom line: we select the type of world into which we will be reborn by means of the way we choose to think in this one. If we choose reason, we choose to be reborn into free societies--i.e., into societies even better than the former America which, with its constitution and bill of rights, was the closest thing to paradise that has ever existed on planet Earth. If, on the other hand, we choose to fit in by means of selective, socially expedient thinking, we choose to be reborn into tyranny and misery."
"Again far too simplistic."
As I said to another fellow earlier today, this is a discussion group, not a public opinion poll. I personally don't give a hoot about your unsupported opinion, on this topic or any other.
"Only social deviants, it would seem, can go to paradise."
"I wish i could believe that as I am a social deviant, but also there is no reason to accept this line of reasoning even if I were to accept reincarnation, which I do not and yes I have followed this thread."