The Human Mind and the Right Brain vs. the Left Brain

[dan4reason]

I was wondering how the human mind works and put a lot of thought into it. At last I came to a conclusion. When we are thinking and reasoning, our thinking process works in two steps. 1: Collect the possible ideas or options, 2: decide whether they are valid. Lets say that I am bored and am wondering what to do. So I start thinking. The first thing that might pop into my head is to eat that ice cream in the refrigerator. Then I remember that I am on a diet and I forget about that idea. Second, I decide that I want to see what is going on in volconvo. However, there are only 5 users on, and no one has responded to my posts yet, so I look for other things to do. Then I remember that I am doing a test tomorrow, and since I need to study, I go ahead and study.

In another instance, I am debating the constitution. Someone says that the constitution is outdated in many parts, and should only be interpreted. Then what pops in my head is that if we do not think that some parts of the constitution are correct, we should change it. I accept this idea because I think it is valid.

In another instance, I had gone swimming, and when I get home, and later go to bed, a part of my bed is wet. I smell it, and it has a funny scent. However, there are no animal hares on it, so I rule out the possibility that my dog peed on it. The wetness does not smell like urine, so it rule out the possibility that it is a bodily substance. It could not have been plain water because it has an odor. Then I remember that I left a towel from the swimming event, an the bed earlier. Come to think of it, the odor smells like Chlorine. There is my solution to my problem.

Notice that in all these examples, ideas just popped into my head, I then decided whether they were worthy of consideration, whether they accomplished the goal I wanted. Judging them also included ideas which popped into my head.

Creative people can think outside the box. They can make all this stuff that most people could never have thought of. This is because more ideas pop into their head than most people. Logical or left brained people are better at organizing their ideas. Of judging whether these ideas are worth trying. When it comes to discovering things, creative people have more pieces, and logical people are able to put them together better. So what do you think about this?

[Cruella]

You want people to debate how you came up with ideas to spend your leisure time? Really?

Have you actually done any research on the brain and thinking patterns?

[tengers]

Dan, the majority of our thoughts are not verbalized. The mind is far more complex than you are imagining. Imagine what is involved in a baseball player diving for a catch in center field. From the crack of the bat, one must decide where that ball is going to fall, how fast to run, where to dive, the angle of the mitt and so forth. The same can be said of driving a car in traffic or even the simple act of eating your soup with a spoon takes a horriffic amount of calculation. If you don't believe it, try programming a robot to do that task

Language and logic are tools used by humans, and perhaps other critters to retain knowledge from generation to generation and to help solve puzzles, such as where did Fido hide his ball.

Right brain/left brain activity seems to be specialized as two different kinds of skills. If you want to have a bit of fun, first look at a picture magazine normally, and then turn it upside down and look at the pictures. You will see an entirely different level of detail. This is because your brain switches from the left (comprehension) to the right side, which tends to be spatial (I can never remember which is which). You will see shadows, shading and texture when looking upside down, whereas rightside up, your mind will interpret what the object is for or what the people are doing, if they are happy or sad or whatever. There is a fun test with a twirling dancer on this subject. I posted it below. For me, the dancer twirls both ways, but often to the left. If I look off to the side or indirectly, it reverses.

Delicate Genius Blog » Left brain/right brain optical illusion

[dan4reason]

You want people to debate how you came up with ideas to spend your leisure time? Really?

Have you actually done any research on the brain and thinking patterns?

These were examples of how the mind works. One was of making a decision. Another was making an argument, another was in making a dicovery. I noted the patterns I found in these examples. This may also be an explanation for what many call inspiration. Sometimes people are trying to find a solution and it come to them. My idea can explain this. When people have good memory, they can easily have past events and experiences come to them. I have done quite a bit of research on the mind, what emotions are, the differences between introverts and extroverts. The differences between right brained people and left brained people. This can be very interesting. I have known many creative people. They have the tendancy to be able to come up with many great ideas, which are completely out of the box.

If you think that my explanation of the human thought process is wrong or incorrect, then I would like to hear it. The right brain is also responsible for many of our emotions and social interactions. My theory is not backed up with very much evidence, but I want to see what people think of it, and see where it needs revision.

[Cruella]

These were examples of how the mind works.

No, they were examples of how your mind has worked under specific conditions. They were not, as Tengers has already pointed out, examples of how mind works. This is something you need to do more research on, as you don't seem to know the "why", never mind the "how" of how mind actually works.

[dan4reason]

Dan, the majority of our thoughts are not verbalized. The mind is far more complex than you are imagining. Imagine what is involved in a baseball player diving for a catch in center field. From the crack of the bat, one must decide where that ball is going to fall, how fast to run, where to dive, the angle of the mitt and so forth. The same can be said of driving a car in traffic or even the simple act of eating your soup with a spoon takes a horriffic amount of calculation. If you don't believe it, try programming a robot to do that task

Language and logic are tools used by humans, and perhaps other critters to retain knowledge from generation to generation and to help solve puzzles, such as where did Fido hide his ball.

Right brain/left brain activity seems to be specialized as two different kinds of skills. If you want to have a bit of fun, first look at a picture magazine normally, and then turn it upside down and look at the pictures. You will see an entirely different level of detail. This is because your brain switches from the left (comprehension) to the right side, which tends to be spatial (I can never remember which is which). You will see shadows, shading and texture when looking upside down, whereas rightside up, your mind will interpret what the object is for or what the people are doing, if they are happy or sad or whatever. There is a fun test with a twirling dancer on this subject. I posted it below. For me, the dancer twirls both ways, but often to the left. If I look off to the side or indirectly, it reverses.

Delicate Genius Blog » Left brain/right brain optical illusion

Thanks for the link. To me, the dancer was going counter-clockwise, however, I could reverse her dance at will. In my opinion, collect pieces, put them together process, is automatic. It is like breathing. Most things from the brain happens automatically. I am theorizing that the right brain is better at collecting ideas for a solution, and the left is best at organizing. Most of this does happen without much though.

[dan4reason]

No, they were examples of how your mind has worked under specific conditions. They were not, as Tengers has already pointed out, examples of how mind works. This is something you need to do more research on, as you don't seem to know the "why", never mind the "how" of how mind actually works.

The decisions I made were made without much though, the first was an example of an everyday decision. Usually, we make decisions very fast. We can think faster than we can talk or read. What I did was go back to them and tried to see how they were made. This is something I need to do research on. So far, I cannot find anything which addresses this topic. How do you think the thought process works?

[Cruella]

It's your debate, why don't you tell us how you think thought processes evolve, which is debatable rather than telling us about your thought processes, which aren't?

[tengers]

Thanks for the link. To me, the dancer was going counter-clockwise, however, I could reverse her dance at will. In my opinion, collect pieces, put them together process, is automatic. It is like breathing. Most things from the brain happens automatically. I am theorizing that the right brain is better at collecting ideas for a solution, and the left is best at organizing. Most of this does happen without much though.

By the way, not everyone agrees that this is a right brain - left brain thing. Some believe it is a visual trick. But I have noticed that bean counters tend to see it spinning one way. I think Cruella is in Finance, Perhaps we can get her take.

The Truth About the Spinning Dancer - Well Blog - NYTimes.com

[Cruella]

Cruella is an accountant and a make up artist. It's doubtful I'm typical of either, to be honest. Also, I have a particular visual problem, which, when you add in that I have a qualification in psychology - and psychological testing - I'm really not the best test subject for these kinds of things.

[Walrus]

There is another factor to the spinning lady I have noticed. She rises and falls from the floor as she spines. If you see her spinning clockwise, she is at her highest point when her foot is pointing towards you. If you see her spinning counterclockwise, she is at her highest point when her foot is pointing away from you. Don't know if that has any effect on the test though.

I see her mainly spinning clockwise but can reverse it.

[GeminiBrian]

Cruella is an accountant and a make up artist. It's doubtful I'm typical of either, to be honest.

So you're either balancing people's books or fiddling with their looks - don't you find this confusing? Me, I have a problem compartmentalising anything, which is why I wander around these threads clueless, usually.

Nobody thinks entirely with either hemisphere, unless that have an abnormality of the brain through injury or other cause. One of the best book I can recommend that covers the origins of thoughts etc. is 'Consciousness and the breakdown of the bi-cameral mind'. A classic of its type on many levels if you have an inquiring mind.

The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind | Julian Jaynes Society

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)