Graphic Images...Islamic terrorists are doing this

[spiker]

Beware - These pictures are shocking examples of the brutal nature of Islam!!

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[Sodfather]

Wow, what animals would cheer for dead bodies? Any civilized people would cringe at a charred corpse like that, friend or foe.

We should pull out of Iraq and let those animals destroy themselves.

[mojo_the_migo]

Blaming that on Islam is soooooooooooooooooooo unfair. I remember seeing a picture of "Christian" men having their picture taken infront of man who was burned to death after a race riot. Look up the pic yourselves, I have no wish to see it again.

[Mia]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (spiker,)
Beware - These pictures are shocking examples of the brutal nature of Islam!!

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Do these links tell me what it has to do with Islam, or are you just talking out of your butt?

[Paavo]

I don't agree with the Islamic ideas and way of life, but this is not very far from posting the same images and making the subject "Horrible images, look what brown people are doing!".

[Mia]

So why don't you close it? You would have done so already if it were about blacks or anyone else.....

Why is it suddenly OK to be racist against Arabs and Muslims? I'm really tired of ignorant people spouting this crap.

[Mia]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sodfather,)
Wow, what animals would cheer for dead bodies? Any civilized people would cringe at a charred corpse like that, friend or foe.

We should pull out of Iraq and let those animals destroy themselves. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


There's a video on this very sight with Americans cheering over the Iraqi they just killed. So they are animals too or you'll need to take your comment back.

[Plaything48]

You don't even know what those dead guys have done. Maybe they were serial rapists/murderers, or even worse, they could've been clowns.

[spiker]

The tender/compassionate words of the Koran...

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

But did you know that there are verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages:

Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied with fighting for Allah's cause. (Sura 2:273)

Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101)

Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5)

They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90).

"Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193).

"Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12). - If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39).

He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).

Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33) -

Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

And Speaking of Paradise... "There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran.

"Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," Sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets."

"The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'" It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise...Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, "Come hither, friend of God."

[Mia]

You are not taking these things from the Quran. I have read these passages myself and this is NOT what they say.

You took this off a site that is propagandist against Islam.

Want me to do some similar misinterpretations of the Bible for you? It will look just as bad.

The Quran plainly states that "People of the Book" are not to be harmed. They are the ONLY religion that when they conquered did NOT make people convert - the Quran forbids it. People of the Book are Jews and Christians and their faith is to be respected and left alone.

UNLIKE Christian invadors who forced people to convert or die.

NOTHING that you wrote actually comes from the Quran.

Ever read it?

[Plaything48]

I'm gonna agree with Mia on the fact that those statements maybe misinterpretations, but they do sound a lot similar to something I found with regard to the jewish faith. This is taken from the Talmud, which is meant to be holier than the bible(someone correct me if Im wrong):

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

I'm not going to claim that these are true interpretations, as I've never read it, and I can't speak hebrew, but this did come from a reliable source which I trust, so if someone is sure that this is wrong, please inform me.

[Sodfather]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
There's a video on this very sight with Americans cheering over the Iraqi they just killed. So they are animals too or you'll need to take your comment back.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
You know, Mia, there is such thing as a lie of omission, and you've committed it.

I believe the Iraqi had an assault rifle in hand, and had fired it upon U.S. soldiers, and a U.S. soldier fired back, killed him, and they all cheered.

That is not even comparable to cold-blooded murder and then cheering at the charred body! That's as sick as a serial killer decapitating a victim and dangling the head from a bridge, and hundreds of people cheerng for it! Of course I know that you were smart enough to know this already Mia, you just omitted it for the sake of your argument.

[Mia]

I have not read the Talmud. I wonder if those were taken from a propagandist source as well?

Just because someone puts it in a book or website and quotes verses, doesn't make it true.

I read one that supposedly justified the covering of women by the Quran. Every verse it quoted simply didn't say what it claimed when I looked them up in the Quran.

I've had similar experience with claims of Bible quotes.

------Sod, the Iraqi had no weapon when he was killed (murdered) and the Americans cheered. I didn't omit anything.

[Sodfather]

Do you have a link from CNN or something that proves that? I could swear that the Iraqi was an armed militant of some sort. :(

[tribeman]

Let's see... The Crusades, the Inquisition, Vlad the Impaller, the Knights Templar, Hitler etc. All examples of savagery in the name of Christianity. KKK lynching in the South and NO prosecution (some called themselves the Christian Knights of the KKK). Destruction of the Inca and other native civilizations in the name of Christ. Women under a husbands rule and not able to own property - here in the good ol' US of A in the 16th thru 19th Century.
I would suggest Arostophanes "War". Same thing, 3000 years ago. Man doesn't change just his rationalizations.

[Mia]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sodfather,)
Do you have a link from CNN or something that proves that? I could swear that the Iraqi was an armed militant of some sort. :(<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


And the links to the others are more reliable for some reason? Could you share this reason?

[Mia]

Spiker,

Sura 9 in the Quran deals with a particular time in history when the muslims had made treaties with pagans. The Pagans broke the treaties and started war with the muslims. The verse (9:5) you pulled out of context to supposedly show that muslims are directed to ambush and etc. "infidels" actually referred to the people making war on the muslims at that time.

The pagans were to be given 4 months to be given time to return to the agreements made before any action taken against them. Even at that point, if they asked for asylum they were to be granted protection and not harmed.

I don't have time right now to point out the fallacies in all of your "quotes" and what they supposedly mean.

Would you like me to do so tomorrow or would you rather concede that they are misrepresentations and/or you have not actually read the Quran and have no business quoting and making judgements on something you haven't read much less understood?

[Suburbanite]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)

The Quran plainly states that "People of the Book" are not to be harmed.  They are the ONLY religion that when they conquered did NOT make people convert - the Quran forbids it.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

I advise you learn the history of Islam, that is exactly how it started. The second calif, Umar slaughtered thousands as he crushed the Persian and Byzantine Empires all the way into Turkey.

[Mia]

In war everyone harms the enemy. The point is that Muslims are not instructed to seek and destoy those who don't believe in Islam as it is believed. The conquered Christians and Jews were not to be converted or killed for being Jewish or Christian. Islam was the only conquerer who did not demand conversion, unlike Cristians.

Even those who were without faith were not to be killed unless they "stated it". Obviouly the Muslim invaders violated this, but not as badly as Christian invaders violated every word of their holy book.

[Suburbanite]

Jews don't.