How Long Will It Take For Bush To Invoke 911?

[lili462]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel How long before he tells the first lie?

Good question, i'd say withing the first 5-10 minutes and then on throughout his speech.

[jose]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel How long before he tells the first lie?

when he says ¨fellow citizens¨?

[Capitalist Pig]

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[bishop]

i voted the last option.. he's too politically weak to use that kind of rhetoric. plus, he hasn't done anything noteworthy against terrorism for quite some time now.

[gr8fuldaniel]

This just in:

As Prepared For Delivery Mr. Speaker, Vice President Cheney, Members of Congress, Members of the Supreme Court and diplomatic corps, distinguished guests, and fellow citizens: Today our Nation lost a beloved, graceful, courageous woman who called America to its founding ideals and carried on a noble dream. Tonight we are comforted by the hope of a glad reunion with the husband who was taken from her so long ago, and we are grateful for the good life of Coretta Scott King. Each time I am invited to this rostrum, I am humbled by the privilege, and mindful of the history we have seen together. We have gathered under this Capitol dome in moments of national mourning and national achievement. We have served America through one of the most consequential periods of our history - and it has been my honor to serve with you.

That looks like an invocation. Though not specific. Looks like under 2 minutes to me.

[gr8fuldaniel]

But the actual specific comes at about 3.5 minutes.

Raw Story In a system of two parties, two chambers, and two elected branches, there will always be differences and debate. But even tough debates can be conducted in a civil tone, and our differences cannot be allowed to harden into anger. To confront the great issues before us, we must act in a spirit of good will and respect for one another - and I will do my part. Tonight the state of our Union is strong - and together we will make it stronger. In this decisive year, you and I will make choices that determine both the future and the character of our country. We will choose to act confidently in pursuing the enemies of freedom - or retreat from our duties in the hope of an easier life. We will choose to build our prosperity by leading the world economy - or shut ourselves off from trade and opportunity. In a complex and challenging time, the road of isolationism and protectionism may seem broad and inviting - yet it ends in danger and decline. The only way to protect our people ... the only way to secure the peace ... the only way to control our destiny is by our leadership - so the United States of America will continue to lead. Abroad, our Nation is committed to an historic, long-term goal - we seek the end of tyranny in our world. Some dismiss that goal as misguided idealism. In reality, the future security of America depends on it. On September 11th, 2001,

[bishop]

i tried to watch, but my playstation was calling me.

[Scribbler1]

I tried to watch, but I had just eaten. Also, I was never big on pep rallies at school so it seems silly to want to watch one now.

No details but I heard on the radio one the way home from work at 9:00 that Cindy Sheehan was supposed to be there as a guest of a Democrat and the Capitol Police detained her for questioning. The reporter wasn't sure but he said he thought she had an anti war banner she was planning on showing during the speech and that was why the cops nabbed her for "questioning".
Nothing more, but it sounded suspicious to me. I'm sure it will be explained later. I probably will watch the post game wrap-up.


edit: Apparently Sheehan wore some kind of inflammatory T-shirt to the rally and was busted for it. I'm not sure it was within the rights of the cops to arrest her but she should have stayed the hell away.

[SteveA]

I didn't watch it because I assumed it wasn't anything new.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel But the actual specific comes at about 3.5 minutes.

LOL

I thought he was going to at least get some foreplay going this time but he drove it home from the starting line, as usual. He's got that move perfected.

[RickSp]

If you pull the opening two paragraphs about Coretta Scott King, he mentions 9/11 in the third paragraph. With the Scott King into he mentioned 9/11 at roughly minute 4.

Overally a dreadful speech. Long and promises, empty of substance.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: SteveA I didn't watch it because I assumed it wasn't anything new. Quote by: gr8fuldaniel But the actual specific comes at about 3.5 minutes. LOL I thought he was going to at least get some foreplay going this time but he drove it home from the starting line, as usual. He's got that move perfected.

If you take 911 away from him, he really has nothing. It was a catalyst for everything else. Bush needed 911 to happen.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel If you take 911 away from him, he really has nothing. It was a catalyst for everything else. Bush needed 911 to happen.

If 9/11 didn't happen Bush would have run out his first term as a marginal president and would have been replaced by a Democrat just like his Father. I don't think Bush was involved in 9/1 but he sure as hell CAPITALIZED on it for all it was worth.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: bishop i voted the last option.. he's too politically weak to use that kind of rhetoric. plus, he hasn't done anything noteworthy against terrorism for quite some time now.

Oh wait, I get it. On rereading this thread, I see this was clearly meant as a joke, and I want to go record as getting it.

[phoenix_fire]

I refuse to listen to him speak. It's like having teeth pulled. He is one of the most heinous orators I've ever heard in the public forum. Poor English is one of my pet peeves, unless it's not your first language...(I cut ESL people some slack).

[Osborn F Enready]

I watched it, I heaved during it, but stifled the bile and didn't let it turn into ejecta.

He is a puppet, and one of the worst I have seen.

I can't wait to see the talking head supporters parrot his EMPTY rhetoric.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Am I getting a mixed message here? It seems like Katrina is ALMOST their own fault.

A hopeful society comes to the aid of fellow citizens in times of suffering and emergency - and stays at it until they are back on their feet. So far the Federal government has committed 85 billion dollars to the people of the Gulf Coast and New Orleans. We are removing debris, repairing highways, and building stronger levees. We are providing business loans and housing assistance. Yet as we meet these immediate needs, we must also address deeper challenges that existed before the storm arrived. In New Orleans and in other places, many of our fellow citizens have felt excluded from the promise of our country. The answer is not only temporary relief, but schools that teach every child ... and job skills that bring upward mobility ... and more opportunities to own a home and start a business. As we recover from a disaster, let us also work for the day when all Americans are protected by justice, equal in hope, and rich in opportunity. A hopeful society acts boldly to fight diseases like HIV/AIDS, which can be prevented, and treated, and defeated. More than a million Americans live with HIV, and half of all AIDS cases occur among African-Americans. I ask Congress to reform and reauthorize the Ryan White Act ... and provide new funding to states, so we end the waiting lists for AIDS medicine in America. We will also lead a nationwide effort, working closely with African-American churches and faith-based groups, to deliver rapid HIV tests to millions, end the stigma of AIDS, and come closer to the day when there are no new infections in America.

Is this factual? Are half of all Aids patients African-American? Also, how is "education for blacks " a solution to Katrina?

BTW, Os, I find it excessively uncomfortable to sit and listen to this bald faced liar, too.
He's an insult to any intelligent life form.

[Scribbler1]

Hmmm. I'm beginning to think ignoring the show was a good idea after all.