Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent!

[westcoastdog]

Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. Ridiculous? After all, didn’t bin Laden orchestrate the 9/11 attacks that killed over 3,000 Americans? Look at the facts and judge accordingly.

Bin Laden’s first contact with the CIA and probable recruitment occurred in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, where the CIA was financing and supplying the war against the Soviet Union. Fast forward to the U.S. foreign policy goals in the Middle East and the Islam world.

-Isolate Iran. Before 9/11 the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein ruled over Iraq. Now there are U.S. armed forces controlling both countries.

-Eliminate Saddam Hussein. By invading Iraq, the U.S. has access to enormous oil reserves; 2) has soldiers on two borders with Iran; and 3) removes some pressure from Israel.

-Maintain the current pro-western Arab governments. By declaring Jihad against the U.S., bin Laden is commanding Muslims to travel to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans. So these dedicated and fearless Muslims are abandoning their attempts to gain control of their own countries to become martyrs at the hands of the most powerful military in the world. A martyr does not return home to challenge his government. Every Saudi martyr that Americans kill in Iraq is one less threat to the Saudi royal family.

In addition to justifying the Bush administration’s aggression in the Middle East, Bin Laden has provided important support for increasing the Pentagon budget, which is larger than the arms budgets of the next 20 countries combined, and suppressing civil liberties, such as the unrestricted use of wire taps. It has become a joke that whenever President Bush wants more money or justifies extreme measures he chants “9/11.” Thank you bin Laden.

What about the attacks on the American embassies in East Africa? A low cost method of establishing bin Laden’s Muslim credentials. Africans are less important than Europeans or Asians. Why didn’t bin Laden order Al Qaeda to attack the U.S. embassies in Western Europe, Japan or India? These nations are important to the U.S., that’s the reason.

Could you imagine the level of outrage if an American embassy in Paris or Copenhagen was demolished? As a political statement, it would have far more effective to destroy a European embassy than one in Africa. However, for CIA purposes African embassies were adequate for its purposes—to establish bin Laden as a Muslim-hero-terrorist.

To justify the invasion of two countries requires more than the destruction of a couple of embassies. What was required was a spectacular act that was visible and symbolic, and the twin towers and Pentagon were perfect targets. The videos of a jet colliding into the tower and the subsequent collapse of both building have become iconic images of world culture. The whole world was mesmerized as they watched the videos over and over. President Bush and his neo-cons now had carte blanche to wage war in the Middle East and to bloat the Pentagon budget as well as ignore civil liberties.

Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. More facts: Tora Bora. In early December 2001 bin Laden was cornered in Tora Bora, which is located in the mountainous region near Pakistan, and was allowed to escape. Since then bin Laden remains free despite the use of high tech surveillance equipment and a $25 million dollar reward. The alleged area where he is concealed is not a densely populated area, like southern Pakistan with its teeming cities, but a series of small mountain villages and towns, through which small traders and travelers have passed for thousands of years. Bin Laden’s entourage must number hundreds and would be noticed easily by any traveler, especially by one who passes regularly through this area. Bin Laden has not been killed or captured because he is the CIA’s most important tool.

To many naïve Muslims 9/11 was a great victory. The Americans called it another Pearl Harbor, and this is the more accurate description. Because of the sneak attack on December 7, 1941, Japan was destroyed and had atomic bombs fall on two of its cities. Millions of Japanese died and Japan lost all the territory it had gained during its expansionist history—Manchuria, Korea and a number of northern islands. Today no Japanese would call Pearl Harbor a great victory.

Because of 9/11 the Taliban lost Afghanistan and Saddam is in jail, and Iran sees Americans on its borders. Thousands of Muslims have martyred themselves at the hands of American weapons, and the Muslim pro-western governments remain unchallenged. If history can be rewritten, is there no doubt that Saddam and the Taliban would wish that 9/11 never happened?

It does not really matter if bin Laden is or isn’t a CIA agent. For all practical purposes his acts have given justification for Bush and the CIA to wage wars that were not possible without 9/11. If Osama bin Laden did not exist, the CIA would have created him.

[Scribbler1]

Good bit of deductive reasoning, dog. I can't wait for the response.

[Clarence]

Quote by: westcoastdog If history can be rewritten, is there no doubt that Saddam and the Taliban would wish that 9/11 never happened?

that's right! these colors don't run!

[jose]

Quote by: westcoastdog Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. Ridiculous? After all, didn’t bin Laden orchestrate the 9/11 attacks that killed over 3,000 Americans? Look at the facts and judge accordingly. Bin Laden’s first contact with the CIA and probable recruitment occurred in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, where the CIA was financing and supplying the war against the Soviet Union. Fast forward to the U.S. foreign policy goals in the Middle East and the Islam world. -Isolate Iran. Before 9/11 the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein ruled over Iraq. Now there are U.S. armed forces controlling both countries. -Eliminate Saddam Hussein. By invading Iraq, the U.S. has access to enormous oil reserves; 2) has soldiers on two borders with Iran; and 3) removes some pressure from Israel. -Maintain the current pro-western Arab governments. By declaring Jihad against the U.S., bin Laden is commanding Muslims to travel to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans. So these dedicated and fearless Muslims are abandoning their attempts to gain control of their own countries to become martyrs at the hands of the most powerful military in the world. A martyr does not return home to challenge his government. Every Saudi martyr that Americans kill in Iraq is one less threat to the Saudi royal family. In addition to justifying the Bush administration’s aggression in the Middle East, Bin Laden has provided important support for increasing the Pentagon budget, which is larger than the arms budgets of the next 20 countries combined, and suppressing civil liberties, such as the unrestricted use of wire taps. It has become a joke that whenever President Bush wants more money or justifies extreme measures he chants “9/11.” Thank you bin Laden. What about the attacks on the American embassies in East Africa? A low cost method of establishing bin Laden’s Muslim credentials. Africans are less important than Europeans or Asians. Why didn’t bin Laden order Al Qaeda to attack the U.S. embassies in Western Europe, Japan or India? These nations are important to the U.S., that’s the reason. Could you imagine the level of outrage if an American embassy in Paris or Copenhagen was demolished? As a political statement, it would have far more effective to destroy a European embassy than one in Africa. However, for CIA purposes African embassies were adequate for its purposes—to establish bin Laden as a Muslim-hero-terrorist. To justify the invasion of two countries requires more than the destruction of a couple of embassies. What was required was a spectacular act that was visible and symbolic, and the twin towers and Pentagon were perfect targets. The videos of a jet colliding into the tower and the subsequent collapse of both building have become iconic images of world culture. The whole world was mesmerized as they watched the videos over and over. President Bush and his neo-cons now had carte blanche to wage war in the Middle East and to bloat the Pentagon budget as well as ignore civil liberties. Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. More facts: Tora Bora. In early December 2001 bin Laden was cornered in Tora Bora, which is located in the mountainous region near Pakistan, and was allowed to escape. Since then bin Laden remains free despite the use of high tech surveillance equipment and a $25 million dollar reward. The alleged area where he is concealed is not a densely populated area, like southern Pakistan with its teeming cities, but a series of small mountain villages and towns, through which small traders and travelers have passed for thousands of years. Bin Laden’s entourage must number hundreds and would be noticed easily by any traveler, especially by one who passes regularly through this area. Bin Laden has not been killed or captured because he is the CIA’s most important tool. To many naïve Muslims 9/11 was a great victory. The Americans called it another Pearl Harbor, and this is the more accurate description. Because of the sneak attack on December 7, 1941, Japan was destroyed and had atomic bombs fall on two of its cities. Millions of Japanese died and Japan lost all the territory it had gained during its expansionist history—Manchuria, Korea and a number of northern islands. Today no Japanese would call Pearl Harbor a great victory. Because of 9/11 the Taliban lost Afghanistan and Saddam is in jail, and Iran sees Americans on its borders. Thousands of Muslims have martyred themselves at the hands of American weapons, and the Muslim pro-western governments remain unchallenged. If history can be rewritten, is there no doubt that Saddam and the Taliban would wish that 9/11 never happened? It does not really matter if bin Laden is or isn’t a CIA agent. For all practical purposes his acts have given justification for Bush and the CIA to wage wars that were not possible without 9/11. If Osama bin Laden did not exist, the CIA would have created him.

sounds about spot on to me

[Milton Bradley]

I have been saying the same thing all along. If the former President of Panama could be CIA agent without people knowing, why not a supposed nutcase running around the Middle East in a robe, and turban?


If it wasn't for Osamma, the government wouldn't have had the excuse to spend that half trillion dollars on your behalf.


I think the most obvious indication to me personally was the fact that they outsourced Osamma's capture to people unaccountable to anybody. Can't really bribe an entire army unit, but you can bribe a group of Warlords.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Right. As we all know America exsists really to wage war on poor people to enrich a few tycoons and a shadow government.

I bet the USSR was a CIA plot too, I mean, we couldn't have had the huge military expenditures of of the Cold War without a "vicious enemy", so we made up the USSR, and when it was no longer convienient, we dissolved it.

Right?

[westcoastdog]

Mr. V.,

Are you having problems distinguishing one individual from a country? BTW, the CIA constantly exaggerated the military capability of the Soviet Union. Do a Google search on this subject and you will find various news stories.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Right. As we all know America exsists really to wage war on poor people to enrich a few tycoons and a shadow government. I bet the USSR was a CIA plot too, I mean, we couldn't have had the huge military expenditures of of the Cold War without a "vicious enemy", so we made up the USSR, and when it was no longer convienient, we dissolved it. Right?

Hmmm... , before I went making any statements along those lines, I might want to peruse this little jewel. ( Free Online)


http://reformed-theology.org/html/bo...ik_revolution/


The fact is, much like Germany, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, etc, it looks like they are all just State Department creatd spooks to seperate fools from thier money.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Right. As we all know America exsists really to wage war on poor people to enrich a few tycoons and a shadow government. I bet the USSR was a CIA plot too, I mean, we couldn't have had the huge military expenditures of of the Cold War without a "vicious enemy", so we made up the USSR, and when it was no longer convienient, we dissolved it. Right?

Heh. Vicchio, you think you're bein' funny. But in your ignorance you don't know how close you come to the truth...

What a slave to tyranny you are...

[Nono]

And who is Osama's deputy in the CIA hierarchy? Ahmad Chalabi.

[lili462]

i wouldnt put this past the cia..but when you look at the big picture it all seems like a sick little game to them. And for what? i dont get it, what is the point of it?

[Rainbow]

Quote by: westcoastdog Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. Ridiculous? After all, didn’t bin Laden orchestrate the 9/11 attacks that killed over 3,000 Americans? Look at the facts and judge accordingly. Bin Laden’s first contact with the CIA and probable recruitment occurred in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, where the CIA was financing and supplying the war against the Soviet Union. Fast forward to the U.S. foreign policy goals in the Middle East and the Islam world. -Isolate Iran. Before 9/11 the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein ruled over Iraq. Now there are U.S. armed forces controlling both countries. -Eliminate Saddam Hussein. By invading Iraq, the U.S. has access to enormous oil reserves; 2) has soldiers on two borders with Iran; and 3) removes some pressure from Israel. -Maintain the current pro-western Arab governments. By declaring Jihad against the U.S., bin Laden is commanding Muslims to travel to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans. So these dedicated and fearless Muslims are abandoning their attempts to gain control of their own countries to become martyrs at the hands of the most powerful military in the world. A martyr does not return home to challenge his government. Every Saudi martyr that Americans kill in Iraq is one less threat to the Saudi royal family. In addition to justifying the Bush administration’s aggression in the Middle East, Bin Laden has provided important support for increasing the Pentagon budget, which is larger than the arms budgets of the next 20 countries combined, and suppressing civil liberties, such as the unrestricted use of wire taps. It has become a joke that whenever President Bush wants more money or justifies extreme measures he chants “9/11.” Thank you bin Laden. What about the attacks on the American embassies in East Africa? A low cost method of establishing bin Laden’s Muslim credentials. Africans are less important than Europeans or Asians. Why didn’t bin Laden order Al Qaeda to attack the U.S. embassies in Western Europe, Japan or India? These nations are important to the U.S., that’s the reason. Could you imagine the level of outrage if an American embassy in Paris or Copenhagen was demolished? As a political statement, it would have far more effective to destroy a European embassy than one in Africa. However, for CIA purposes African embassies were adequate for its purposes—to establish bin Laden as a Muslim-hero-terrorist. To justify the invasion of two countries requires more than the destruction of a couple of embassies. What was required was a spectacular act that was visible and symbolic, and the twin towers and Pentagon were perfect targets. The videos of a jet colliding into the tower and the subsequent collapse of both building have become iconic images of world culture. The whole world was mesmerized as they watched the videos over and over. President Bush and his neo-cons now had carte blanche to wage war in the Middle East and to bloat the Pentagon budget as well as ignore civil liberties. Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. More facts: Tora Bora. In early December 2001 bin Laden was cornered in Tora Bora, which is located in the mountainous region near Pakistan, and was allowed to escape. Since then bin Laden remains free despite the use of high tech surveillance equipment and a $25 million dollar reward. The alleged area where he is concealed is not a densely populated area, like southern Pakistan with its teeming cities, but a series of small mountain villages and towns, through which small traders and travelers have passed for thousands of years. Bin Laden’s entourage must number hundreds and would be noticed easily by any traveler, especially by one who passes regularly through this area. Bin Laden has not been killed or captured because he is the CIA’s most important tool. To many naïve Muslims 9/11 was a great victory. The Americans called it another Pearl Harbor, and this is the more accurate description. Because of the sneak attack on December 7, 1941, Japan was destroyed and had atomic bombs fall on two of its cities. Millions of Japanese died and Japan lost all the territory it had gained during its expansionist history—Manchuria, Korea and a number of northern islands. Today no Japanese would call Pearl Harbor a great victory. Because of 9/11 the Taliban lost Afghanistan and Saddam is in jail, and Iran sees Americans on its borders. Thousands of Muslims have martyred themselves at the hands of American weapons, and the Muslim pro-western governments remain unchallenged. If history can be rewritten, is there no doubt that Saddam and the Taliban would wish that 9/11 never happened? It does not really matter if bin Laden is or isn’t a CIA agent. For all practical purposes his acts have given justification for Bush and the CIA to wage wars that were not possible without 9/11. If Osama bin Laden did not exist, the CIA would have created him.

(Not getting into details) Have you developed it on your own ?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Heh. Vicchio, you think you're bein' funny. But in your ignorance you don't know how close you come to the truth... What a slave to tyranny you are...

Yeah PH, slave to tyrrany... yeah, you got me. Unlike you, your smart enough to see the shadows that others ignore, and jump in fear from them.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Yeah PH, slave to tyrrany... yeah, you got me. Unlike you, your smart enough to see the shadows that others ignore, and jump in fear from them.

Who is jumping in fear?


Looks to me like somebody calling a spade a spade.


I guess they only seem like attacks against ones character if ones character is lacking in that area. Nothing to hide if your innocent, right?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: lili462 i wouldnt put this past the cia..but when you look at the big picture it all seems like a sick little game to them. And for what? i dont get it, what is the point of it?

Controling the world by attempting to justify (with lies) the need for the largest military force on the planet. They probably also help to justify concentrating constitutional powers in the Executive.

In order to fight these State Department created spooks they need lots of your tax dollars. ( But then, that couldn't be what motivates them, could it?)

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Nono And who is Osama's deputy in the CIA hierarchy? Ahmad Chalabi.

We would be speculating, as we are with Osamma, but you have to admit, it's a play right out of their playbook.

[Plasma Snake[D]]

There are so many "conspiracy theories" surrounding 9/11 that actually finding the right one would take some psychic abilities. But in reality, 9/11 gave the US a huge excuse to do whatever they want in search of "justice". But really I dont pay much attention to Osama bin Laden. How much can ONE man do? not much. Maybe a couple of things here and there, but not enough to hijack FOUR planes, even crashing one into THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HEADQUARTERS? It doesnt make sense to me.

[westcoastdog]

Rainbow,

I used to be a federal investigator and so I look at all the facts and I especially pay attention to who benefits from a crime. I expected that Al Qaeda would blow up subways and buildings in the U.S.during the 2004 presidential campaign. Bush is supposedly bin Laden's and Al Qaeda's arch enemy, and his main strength was his war against terrorism. A successful terrorist attack in New York City or Washington D.C. would have undermined Bush's campaign and given the presidency to Kerry, a more moderate candidate. When my expectations turned out wrong (and I'm glad about this), I began wondering why there were no attacks.

As we are well aware, our borders are a wide open sieve to illegal immigrants and tons of drugs are smuggled in weekly. If Al Qaeda had the sophistication to pull off 9/11, getting a few willing martyrs and a few hundred pounds of dynamite into the U.S.should have child's play. (digressing, I knew a fellow, who was subsequently murdered, who used to smuggle in freighter loads of marijuana into the U.S. when he was 25 years old.) So I asked myself could there be a reason why bin Laden didn't attack the U.S. during Bush's reelection campaign. Then I examined all the consequences of bin Laden's campaign against the west, and it became obvious immediately that Bush was the main benefactor. Almost every attack by al Qaeda strengthened Bush's goals. Even the Madrid train attack supported Bush by alienating the European public against radical Muslims; wouldn't it make more sense to placate Europeans, who already had a strong dislike of the president.

There may or may not be a direct line from the CIA to bin Laden. But if there isn't, bin Laden is one stupid fellow, and the Muslims who consider him a hero and are even bigger fools.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: westcoastdog Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. Ridiculous? After all, didn’t bin Laden orchestrate the 9/11 attacks that killed over 3,000 Americans? Look at the facts and judge accordingly. Bin Laden’s first contact with the CIA and probable recruitment occurred in the early 1980s in Afghanistan, where the CIA was financing and supplying the war against the Soviet Union. Fast forward to the U.S. foreign policy goals in the Middle East and the Islam world. Apeman Says: Nice 20 year leap -Isolate Iran. Before 9/11 the Taliban controlled Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein ruled over Iraq. Now there are U.S. armed forces controlling both countries. Apeman Say: And this proves your theory how? -Eliminate Saddam Hussein. By invading Iraq, the U.S. has access to enormous oil reserves; 2) has soldiers on two borders with Iran; and 3) removes some pressure from Israel. Apeman Says: Saddam, by ignoring 17 UN resolutions over 12 years, by having actively attempted to down US aircraft by sending his own aircraft into the No-Fly zones and then targeting reacting US fighters with SAMs, had given the US more than sufficient excuse to launch the regime change action against Iraq. -Maintain the current pro-western Arab governments. By declaring Jihad against the U.S., bin Laden is commanding Muslims to travel to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans. So these dedicated and fearless Muslims are abandoning their attempts to gain control of their own countries to become martyrs at the hands of the most powerful military in the world. A martyr does not return home to challenge his government. Every Saudi martyr that Americans kill in Iraq is one less threat to the Saudi royal family. Apeman Says: 1) Fearless men don’t strap bombs to themselves and blow up anybody within range, 2) Control of one’s nation is gained first by political action, and if necessary, by civil disobedience up to and including open rebellion, not strapping bombs to oneself and blowing up anybody within range. 3) A person that straps a bomb to oneself and blows up anybody within range is not a martyr, he is a murderer. 4) Saudi murderers have long history of blowing up everybody BUT the Saudi Royal Family In addition to justifying the Bush administration’s aggression in the Middle East, Bin Laden has provided important support for increasing the Pentagon budget, which is larger than the arms budgets of the next 20 countries combined, and suppressing civil liberties, such as the unrestricted use of wire taps. It has become a joke that whenever President Bush wants more money or justifies extreme measures he chants “9/11.” Thank you bin Laden. Apeman Says: 1) Pentagon Budgets can, and have been, increased without a 911 event. 2) There have been NO unrestricted wire taps. Just ask the Senate, which has been aware of the wire taps since the beginning. What about the attacks on the American embassies in East Africa? A low cost method of establishing bin Laden’s Muslim credentials. Africans are less important than Europeans or Asians. Why didn’t bin Laden order Al Qaeda to attack the U.S. embassies in Western Europe, Japan or India? These nations are important to the U.S., that’s the reason. Could you imagine the level of outrage if an American embassy in Paris or Copenhagen was demolished? As a political statement, it would have far more effective to destroy a European embassy than one in Africa. However, for CIA purposes African embassies were adequate for its purposes—to establish bin Laden as a Muslim-hero-terrorist. Apeman Says: Purely speculative gratuitous assertion that can be explained as easily by security concerns and existing Al Qaeda sphere of influence at the time of the bombing. As gratuitously ignored To justify the invasion of two countries requires more than the destruction of a couple of embassies. What was required was a spectacular act that was visible and symbolic, and the twin towers and Pentagon were perfect targets. The videos of a jet colliding into the tower and the subsequent collapse of both building have become iconic images of world culture. The whole world was mesmerized as they watched the videos over and over. President Bush and his neo-cons now had carte blanche to wage war in the Middle East and to bloat the Pentagon budget as well as ignore civil liberties. Apeman Says: 1) If those images are so effective, why do we not see them more often? 2) budget and civil liberties already addressed Osama bin Laden is a CIA agent. More facts: Tora Bora. In early December 2001 bin Laden was cornered in Tora Bora, which is located in the mountainous region near Pakistan, and was allowed to escape. Since then bin Laden remains free despite the use of high tech surveillance equipment and a $25 million dollar reward. The alleged area where he is concealed is not a densely populated area, like southern Pakistan with its teeming cities, but a series of small mountain villages and towns, through which small traders and travelers have passed for thousands of years. Bin Laden’s entourage must number hundreds and would be noticed easily by any traveler, especially by one who passes regularly through this area. Bin Laden has not been killed or captured because he is the CIA’s most important tool. Apeman Says: 1) How would you have any idea of the size of Bin Laden’s entourage? 2) Since the advent of Zarqowi, does it not make more since to kill Bin Laden as a show of effectiveness? After all, you assert that we killed thousands of Americans in order to bloat a budget, steal civil liberties, and create a presence in the Middle East. What’s one dead terrorist to us? To many naïve Muslims 9/11 was a great victory. The Americans called it another Pearl Harbor, and this is the more accurate description. Because of the sneak attack on December 7, 1941, Japan was destroyed and had atomic bombs fall on two of its cities. Millions of Japanese died and Japan lost all the territory it had gained during its expansionist history—Manchuria, Korea and a number of northern islands. Today no Japanese would call Pearl Harbor a great victory. Because of 9/11 the Taliban lost Afghanistan and Saddam is in jail, and Iran sees Americans on its borders. Thousands of Muslims have martyred themselves at the hands of American weapons, and the Muslim pro-western governments remain unchallenged. If history can be rewritten, is there no doubt that Saddam and the Taliban would wish that 9/11 never happened? Apeman Says: And yet the Japanese DID launch the attack on Pearl Harbor. It’s not the first time one country has overestimated their ability and underestimated the response of their opponent. And it was not the last, as the 911 attacks, and our response, indicates The terrorists don’t much care for Saddam, the Taliban, or any other government. Their interest runs to killing or subjugating anyone that does not share their warped belief in Islamic Jihad. They don’t fight for others, they fight for themselves. Their narcissistic belief of what they can attain for themselves from their violence overrides any thought of what their actions my do to others. They don’t fight to bring others the gifts of their perverted version of Islam, they murder others to get the gifts for themselves. Martyrs. Bah! It does not really matter if bin Laden is or isn’t a CIA agent. For all practical purposes his acts have given justification for Bush and the CIA to wage wars that were not possible without 9/11. If Osama bin Laden did not exist, the CIA would have created him.

Utter Rubbish!

Besides, if the CIA had been grooming this fellow from the 80’s, then why didn’t the CIA have Bush the First employ him in the first Gulf War? For that matter, why didn’t the CIA have Bush the first just topple Saddam when he offered himself on a platter by invading a sovereign nation? Why didn’t the CIA have Clinton launch the attack on Afghanistan after the first attack on the twin towers? After the attack on the Cole? While Clinton was launching attacks on Iraq?

[Clarence]

Quote by: Apeman81 Utter Rubbish! Besides, if the CIA had been grooming this fellow from the 80’s, then why didn’t the CIA have Bush the First employ him in the first Gulf War?

to what purpose? How would they have used him to cause constructive fear? Not if BTW

For that matter, why didn’t the CIA have Bush the first just topple Saddam when he offered himself on a platter by invading a sovereign nation?

Bush I thought it was dumb and initing a quagmire. remember?

Why didn’t the CIA have Clinton launch the attack on Afghanistan after the first attack on the twin towers? After the attack on the Cole? While Clinton was launching attacks on Iraq?

Don't want to benifit the wrong imperial party, see? If 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch, the plan would not have been so easy to implement. Your vocabulary suggests intelligence. I realize this particular concept is far fetched to you. In fact, it's far fetched to many. But, in general, do you find it hard to type with your eyes closed?