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Old Feb 1, 2006, 10:51 am   #61 (permalink) (top)
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ALL 4000 of these people who were "warned" never let it slip.
Its not easy to warn people of a "possible" attack. People dont want to be called Chicken Little, but I value humanity more than the possibility of being called a name.

On the other hand, maybe if nobody had talked about it, it would have happened?
There is still a danger. As long as there is a chance of impeachment (or loss of any of the major 3), a "domestic" strike is on the table.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 11:35 am   #62 (permalink) (top)
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Its not easy to warn people of a "possible" attack. People dont want to be called Chicken Little, but I value humanity more than the possibility of being called a name.

On the other hand, maybe if nobody had talked about it, it would have happened?
There is still a danger. As long as there is a chance of impeachment (or loss of any of the major 3), a "domestic" strike is on the table.
But you haven't addressed the unlikelihood that NOBODY has mentioned it in four years and out of 4,000 people that seems a bit much to assume everyone would stay silent. Unless they were all Mossad agents or something.

This is why I see problems with highly damaging information that would bring down an administration at the very LEAST only makes it to blogs and little known newspapers. The same logic applies to the media as it does to the 4,000 Jews at the WTC. What are the odds that, not just every single major news outlet, but every single REPORTER for those outlets are silent about this stuff? I refuse to believe absolutely no one in the news business has abandoned all their journalistic ethics. It's a matter of scale in both cases and not a matter of trusting the government. It seems the odds of everyone staying silent are too high.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 11:45 am   #63 (permalink) (top)
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That idiotic bromide was debunked within days of 9/11. Not surprising that the conspiracy types keep repeating it as if it were true. It says a lot about their lack of scepticism and willingness to believe almost anything.

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Old Feb 1, 2006, 11:50 am   #64 (permalink) (top)
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But you haven't addressed the unlikelihood that NOBODY has mentioned it in four years and out of 4,000 people that seems a bit much to assume everyone would stay silent. Unless they were all Mossad agents or something.
Maybe if there were an independant investigation we would have those answers and a few high profile criminals. Is it my fault? Even if there were an investigation what would stop the actual perps from switching the prosecutor after all the evidence and testimony has been assimillated?

What ever happened with Condi Rice when she was questioned by the 911 Omission? Did they ask her about warning Willie Brown not to fly on that day? He talked!! Not enough for you?
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 11:52 am   #65 (permalink) (top)
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That idiotic bromide was debunked within days of 9/11. Not surprising that the conspiracy types keep repeating it as if it were true. It says a lot about their lack of scepticism and willingness to believe almost anything.

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I am not basing everything on that. It may or not be true. I dont trust them to investigate themselves.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 12:01 pm   #66 (permalink) (top)
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I am not basing everything on that. It may or not be true. I dont trust them to investigate themselves.
Ah, so Slate magazine is part of the great media conspiracy as well?

Be honest for a goddamn minute. You didn't say that the story "may or may not be true." You said that it was true - " 4000 jews took 911 (a Tuesday) off work at the WTC."

You obviously believe whatever you want to believe, facts be damned.


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Old Feb 1, 2006, 12:04 pm   #67 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe if there were an independant investigation we would have those answers and a few high profile criminals. Is it my fault?
You brought it up as if it were fact. I questioned it, that's all.
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Even if there were an investigation what would stop the actual perps from switching the prosecutor after all the evidence and testimony has been assimillated?
I wasn't talking about an investigation, was I. I asked why do you think none of the 4000 people said anything. Reporting what someone said does not require an investigation.
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What ever happened with Condi Rice when she was questioned by the 911 Omission? Did they ask her about warning Willie Brown not to fly on that day? He talked!! Not enough for you?
Got a link on that?
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 12:15 pm   #68 (permalink) (top)
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CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST, HARDBALL: Are you satisfied with what you got from Condi today?

KRISTEN BREITWEISER, WIDOW OF 9/11 ATTACK: No, I think obviously we need to get more answers from her. I would have hoped that the commissioners would have asked more pointed questions, more questions about the substance of the threats that we were facing, more about the intelligence community, what they knew where, where the breakdown of the intel information occurred, why the national security advisor did not know that planes could be used as missiles. That’s her job.

MATTHEWS: She said it right up front, didn’t she?

BREITWEISER: She did.

LORIE VAN AUKEN, WIDOW OF 9/11 ATTACK: We also know that people stopped flying domestically. Ashcroft stopped flying. Pentagon officials stop flying the day before September 11. They were warned not fly on September 11. We think San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown was told not to fly. That’s all domestic. You know, everybody keeps telling us how they were focused outward.

MATTHEWS: You’re talking about before 9/11 they were warned?

VAN AUKEN: Yes. Yes, right.

MATTHEWS: What about the July briefing that was on domestic agencies?

MINDY KLEINBERG, WIDOW OF 9/11 ATTACK: You know, what’s unbelievable about that is that nobody followed that up. I mean they say that they told the FAA and they told the FBI, but nobody at the FAA did anything.

Nobody stepped up the protocols and procedures during that threat period. Nobody at the FBI knew that this threat was there.

And I would have liked them to continue to ask her, because apparently, she didn’t feel that was her responsibility.
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I am not basing everything on that. It may or not be true. I dont trust them to investigate themselves.
Ah, so Slate magazine is part of the great media conspiracy as well?
I wasnt referring to Slate. I didnt click the link. I know there are doubts to that "4000 jews" reference before I posted it. That doesnt make it untrue. When I said "them" I meant the 911 Ommission. I dont know if they even inquired about such a thing.
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Be honest for a goddamn minute. You didn't say that the story "may or may not be true." You said that it was true - " 4000 jews took 911 (a Tuesday) off work at the WTC."
The US State Department claims the "4000 jews" deal is just a rumor, so I guess I was wrong. They wouldnt lie to us about something so horrible. My mistake. Facts are what they tell us.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 12:36 pm   #69 (permalink) (top)
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Got a link on that?
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 02:00 pm   #70 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe I should get a fancy emblem like theirs.


Then everything I said would be true too.
You could not question me.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 06:42 pm   #71 (permalink) (top)
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I appreciate the link but the story doesn't match your post. The story says it was a mysterious call from the Mayor's "security people" with no other explanation. And the "warning" was described as: "advising him that Americans should be cautious about their air travel." Most of the rest was about the aftermath of 9/11.

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What ever happened with Condi Rice when she was questioned by the 911 Omission? Did they ask her about warning Willie Brown not to fly on that day? He talked!! Not enough for you?
The story never mentions Rice "warning" Brown, nor does it mention her at all.
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Old Feb 1, 2006, 07:54 pm   #72 (permalink) (top)
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Did they ask her about warning Willie Brown not to fly on that day?
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The story never mentions Rice "warning" Brown, nor does it mention her at all.
My point was that the 911 commission did not ask Rice about it unless it was behind closed doors. I have other links that are reliable to me, (but you may not accept) that tell about Rices close friendship with Brown and that . Why do you think it would be a secret who gave the warning?
Any good scenario?

The fact that they warned some people and not others stinks.
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Old Feb 6, 2006, 04:04 pm   #73 (permalink) (top)
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This is Spooky.
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Texas City British Petroleum Employee Heard "Strange Abort Signal" on Local Radio Station The Morning Army Intel Officer Predicted Nuclear Strike At Plant

BP employee also said "other strange events" occured, leaving her "nervous and on edge." Galveston Daily News follows up with story, finding WMD military support team was conducting a training session at a location near Texas City.
3 Feb 2006

By Greg Szymanski

An employee at the British Petroleum (BP) plant in Texas City, Texas, said she's "nervous and on edge" since reports surfaced last week by a former Army Intelligence officer that the plant was targeted for a nuclear attack by the "enemy within" the U.S. government.


Although the threat never materialized on its anticipated date of Jan. 31, the employee who wished to remain anonymous for fear of losing her job, said other "suspicious and strange events" occurred on the target date and in the days that followed, making her believe the "attack may have been subverted" due to public attention drawn by the initial reports.


"We originally had a plant evacuation scheduled for Monday and Tuesday on the 30th and 31st, but it was strangely cancelled after the first reports surfaced about the possible explosion," said the anonymous BP worker, who also said at least 400 plant workers were recently moved to another office location in Texas City.


"OSHA is now at the plant and there is a sign at the plant saying the evacuation drill has been rescheduled between Feb. 1 and Feb. 8. Yes, I am nervous and no I don't believe recent reports from the government which say not to worry and no threats have been reported."


The employee said another "very strange" occurrence took place at 6:30 am on the morning of Jan. 31 when she was listening to 103.7 FM on her car radio as she drove to work.

"I swear to God this happened," said the worker, whose voice still shaking as she told the story days later. "I was listening to a news report on the FM station and the newscaster was reading a story about the incredible Exxon/Mobil oil profits. While he was reading the numbers, there was a strange sound of a siren coming from the background of the broadcast with a lady saying 'abort, abort, abort.' Now what was that all about? Was it sometime of code to tell other people what was going on?"


The Galveston radio station where the broadcast emanated was unavailable for comment, regarding the strange sequence of events during the 103.7 FM reported by the BP worker.

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