DID YOU SEE THIS? -> Kerry: Honored by Communist Vietnamese as Anti-war Activist

[SlantedFacts]

Kerry: Honored by Communist Vietnamese as Anti-war Activist who Helped them win the Vietnam War. Communist Vietnamese Honor John Kerry, the War Protestor, as a Hero in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War. In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows then-Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi.

Has ANYONE else seen any other info and actual proof of or against this?

It is hard to buy into this because it would ruin the opportunity for N.V.N. to have an American Political friend in the White House IF THEY WERE to honor this demonstrator.

[grandpa]

Quote by: SlantedFacts Has ANYONE else seen any other info and actual proof of or against this?

I wouldn't say anyone "won" the Vietnam War, Slanted.

Grandpa h.

[jose]

slanted by name..?
Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam, July 15-18, 1993.
http://www.command-post.org/oped/2_archives/012590.html
kerry actually served in Vietnam, unlike aWol

[madprophet]

Well, for one thing, John Kerry wasn't Lt. Governor in 1993--he's been in the Senate since 1984.

I think it's real though, not that it means anything. (Edit to clarify: Kerry went to Vietnam as an official of the US government to pursue the POW/MIA issue. He had his picture taken with communists he met with as part of his job there. Is it his fault if the dirty commies use him in their propaganda? It's not like he was colluding with war criminals

[madprophet]

From the page:

"This find can be compared to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."

Haha. Wouldn't it be more analogous to a failed German politician coming to the United States in 1965 and having his picture taken with US leaders? (Or better yet, France!)

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: SlantedFacts Has ANYONE else seen any other info and actual proof of or against this?

Have YOU seen any? I don't count a post from 2004 from a right wing blogger as a legitimate source of facts.

[SlantedFacts]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Have YOU seen any? I don't count a post from 2004 from a right wing blogger as a legitimate source of facts.

hmmmm So - old news is NO LONGER fact?

I suppose then - the Dem's Senator Byrd was never a KKK association
nor was Howard Dean ever elected by a heavy pro-socialist voter base.

A personal comment is not evidence against the issue.

I like to see facts myself - not just comments....

[SlantedFacts]

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/st...40531140357545 Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=38738 Kerry honored at communist museum

http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryH...ommunists2.htm FINAL NEWS RELEASE - CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE SUPPORTED BY RECENTLY-SECURED PHOTOGRAPHS FROM HCM CITY (SAIGON), VIETNAM Here is a link - http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/museum.asp (Urban Legends Reference Page) which does say: If the intent of the exhibit were for Vietnamese Communists to "recognize John Kerry's contributions to their victory," as claimed, it seems rather odd they chose a display that neither names John Kerry nor explains his importance to the Vietnamese, but merely includes him in a picture as an unidentified member of a U.S. "Congressmen and Veterans Delegation." Since the photograph dates from a time when President Clinton was taking steps towards establishing formal diplomatic relations between the U.S. and the Communist government of Vietnam (a cause for which Senator Kerry and Senator John McCain were leading proponents), its significance to the Vietnamese is probably more that it conveys a sense of official U.S. "recognition" of the post-war Vietnamese government (by dint of U.S. congressmen, including Senator Kerry, meeting with Communist Party officials). As analogies go, this exhibit is less like "the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945" than it is like finding a photograph of President Richard Nixon meeting with Chinese Premier Chou En-lai hanging in Beijing's Museum of the Chinese Revolution

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I am just trying to figure it out!

This is the opposition I found on line.

[madprophet]

Damn. I should have thought about checking Snopes. Good site.

[jose]

militery service histoty
http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

[SlantedFacts]

Quote by: jose militery service histoty http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

That is slanderous propaganda - Bush signed the needed documentation to show ALL of his military records! That IS documented FACT!

WHY didn't Kerry? MUST have something to hide behind him keeping HIS RECORDS CLOSED!!

[jose]

Quote by: SlantedFacts That is slanderous propaganda - Bush signed the needed documentation to show ALL of his military records! That IS documented FACT! WHY didn't Kerry? MUST have something to hide behind him keeping HIS RECORDS CLOSED!!

i thought both records were available on that, maybe slanted site, i must have missed kerry hideing his please throw me a link or two man

[SlantedFacts]

Quote by: jose i thought both records were available on that, maybe slanted site, i must have missed kerry hideing his please throw me a link or two man

As best as I can tell - this story (a conservative side) seems to present some valid points.

However; I never saw the Kerry signed form SF 180 to know for sure.

However; the big to do about it is that Bush did sign it for a full military and medical release of information and did send it to the location that had access to FULL DISCLOSURE and Kerry did not....

This is a link that I see as having the most compelling insight to the story: http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lip09.html

IF there is any other info out there to prove that Kerry did release full documentation - let me know!

[madprophet]

Slanderous propaganda? All I see is relevent documents. Bush was not held accountable, but he possibly could have been called Absent Without Leave, and probably would have been if he were Nobody Special. Wikipedia Entry

[jose]

"It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received."
from your link: have you any more handy?

[SlantedFacts]

Quote by: madprophet Slanderous propaganda? All I see is relevent documents. Bush was not held accountable, but he possibly could have been called Absent Without Leave, and probably would have been if he were Nobody Special. Wikipedia Entry

possibly could have been called WHAT??

I possibly could have been called a 23 foot tall 7 LBS turtle - FACTS would prove one way or another!

Show Me FACTS!

What can he HONESTLY be called?

He HONESTLY signed form SF 180 AND SUBMITTED it to the right place to UNLIKE Kerry.

. . . so Show PROOF about Bush or drop the funny stories!

It does NOT matter if you are correct or not so long as it is NOT hyped up B.S. - leave that stuff to Dan Rather and the lack of authenticity in the documents he uses!

[SlantedFacts]

Quote by: jose "It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received." from your link: have you any more handy?

. . . but he NEVER did provide anything to the public as Bush did!

We are STILL waiting for it!

That was an OLD article!

[Apeman81]

John Who?

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: SlantedFacts . I am just trying to figure it out! This is the opposition I found on line.

Maybe so, but on a debate forum you are better served to get more than one source before you post, especially when your single source was a POST on a blog.
And if you're trying to figure it out you can see this from your own post:

Quote by: Snopes.com "The significance of the photograph's presence and placement within the museum is subject to considerable debate, however. The picture on display does not capture John Kerry engaged in an anti-war activity (although such photographs are plentiful and easy to obtain), nor does it depict or describe him as an anti-war protester. The picture shows Senator John Kerry, a duly authorized representative of the United States government, meeting with Vietnamese officials in 1993 (long after the end of American military involvement in Vietnam) as part of a "high-level delegation" sent to Vietnam by President Clinton "to press for further progress on unresolved POW/MIA issues." The caption below the photograph makes no reference to John Kerry's anti-war activities, nor does it even identify him by name — it reads simply..."

At best, this makes this "evidence" extremely vague and at worst your blog is a pile of right wing opinion. The whole thing sounds like an urban legend started by a Kerry hater and, as many such rumors do, it grew legs and suck a lot of people in.

[Logjam]

Quote by: grandpa I wouldn't say anyone "won" the Vietnam War, Slanted. Grandpa h.

Hey, Gramps; the communists won the Vietnam War. They held the ground, ousted the South Vietnamese government, enslaved the South Vietnamese military, and put their own communist government in power.

How the hell, can you, even for a moment, not ackknowledge that the Communist North Vietnamese won the Vietnam War?