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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:25 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Who likes war?, you all do!

What is the definition of war? Any active hostility, contention, or struggle.
When the moderator 'WAR'ns me to stop this or that, in essence he is declaring war against me, right? If i am a child molestor the people declare war on me and have me moved out of their neighborhood.

When I dare to say the American Indian brought much of their troubles down on themselves; a whole bunch of you declare war on me, right? If I try to outrun the police or am a hit-and-run driver, does not the whole police Dept. declare war on me? There are multitudes of things that cause hostility, contention, struggles and wars which all of us partake of gladly everyday, right? So if you say you oppose war, you deceive yourself.
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:32 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What is the definition of war? Any active hostility, contention, or struggle.
When the moderator 'WAR'ns me to stop this or that, in essence he is declaring war against me, right? If i am a child molestor the people declare war on me and have me moved out of their neighborhood.

When I dare to say the American Indian brought much of their troubles down on themselves; a whole bunch of you declare war on me, right? If I try to outrun the police or am a hit-and-run driver, does not the whole police Dept. declare war on me? There are multitudes of things that cause hostility, contention, struggles and wars which all of us partake of gladly everyday, right? So if you say you oppose war, you deceive yourself.
Any act of hostility isn't a definition of war , hell it might just be a playground bloody nose, get over your grandiose concepts of yourself as a diety and that a war is being staged upon you. That's just going on in your mind, that's not the real world.
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:33 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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There are multitudes of things that cause hostility, contention, struggles and wars which all of us partake of gladly everyday, right? So if you say you oppose war, you deceive yourself.
That's right, even flatus can cause antipathy in a confined space, Z.


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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:37 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Any act of hostility isn't a definition of war , hell it might just be a playground bloody nose, get over your grandiose concepts of yourself as a diety and that a war is being staged upon you. That's just going on in your mind, that's not the real world.

Webster and I dare to differ with you and the Diety does too! "THere will be wars and rumors of wars...." "They shall cry PEACE but will find none"
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:47 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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That's right, even flatus can cause antipathy in a confined space, Z.
Yes you are right and strangely there are some who feel a good weapon with which to fight there antihathys is a by-product of the human digestive system. Silly huh? LIke the person who gets upset and uses sexual intercourse to hurt his opponent, crazy huh?
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:51 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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What is the definition of war? Any active hostility, contention, or struggle.
When the moderator 'WAR'ns me to stop this or that, in essence he is declaring war against me, right? If i am a child molestor the people declare war on me and have me moved out of their neighborhood.
Would you say Poland was warlike after Germany invaded, simply because they sought to defend themselves?

Certainly contentions/wars occur but that doesn't mean someone wants it nor does it mean everyone is an aggressor.

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So this is obviously a generalized and inaccurate statement.


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Old Jan 4, 2006, 03:27 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Would you say Poland was warlike after Germany invaded, simply because they sought to defend themselves?

Certainly contentions/wars occur but that doesn't mean someone wants it nor does it mean everyone is an aggressor.



So this is obviously a generalized and inaccurate statement.
In defending themselves they were very war like because they did it in a violent manner, correct? A very accurate finding, right? If I attempt to harm you, you will willingly defend yourself violently if neccessary, right? Said nothing about wanting to or being an agressor. That was generalization on your part. We will, all of us gladly declare war at the drop of a hat, be honest.
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 08:48 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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When I dare to say the American Indian brought much of their troubles down on themselves; a whole bunch of you declare war on me, right?
No Z, no one has declared war on you. You are obviously clueless regarding what war is, which is pretty typical. You are clueless about so much. War is violence, fool. If we disagreed with your abusurdist rants and then opened up with an automatic weapon pointed in your direction that would be war. Mistaking disagreement with war is idiotic, but what else is new?


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Old Jan 4, 2006, 09:09 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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The only war I <3 is counter strike.


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Old Jan 4, 2006, 12:45 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Zealot you might want to look up a new term, HUBRIS
When someone is so full of themselves and thinks the entire world revolves around them. Constantly brags about their unrealistic views of how the world works, when in fact they are a small insignificant part,the same as most individuals play in the larger scheme of things. If you are famous and admired, the world will tell you, not the other way around.
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 02:18 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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your comparing war to kicking a convicted child molestor out of a neighborhood? that's not war....it's a neighborhood full of people, who most likely have children, who are trying to protect themselves. People aren't declaring war on you when they argue against you saying that "the indians brought the troubles upon themselves", it's called debate. when you out run the police or commit a hit and run, that means you apparently broke the law, they aren't trying to declare war on you, they are doing their duty to the justice system. i dont know what to say to you. whatever your smoking buddy you need to share.


It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on peersonal freedom is what it is, okay?. Keep that in mind at all times, thank you.
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 03:14 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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your comparing war to kicking a convicted child molestor out of a neighborhood? that's not war....it's a neighborhood full of people, who most likely have children, who are trying to protect themselves. People aren't declaring war on you when they argue against you saying that "the indians brought the troubles upon themselves", it's called debate. when you out run the police or commit a hit and run, that means you apparently broke the law, they aren't trying to declare war on you, they are doing their duty to the justice system. i dont know what to say to you. whatever your smoking buddy you need to share.

Lili, when they attack with words of hate and personal insults they are declaring war on me. That is not debate, read the rules.
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 03:20 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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No Z, no one has declared war on you. You are obviously clueless regarding what war is, which is pretty typical. You are clueless about so much. War is violence, fool. If we disagreed with your abusurdist rants and then opened up with an automatic weapon pointed in your direction that would be war. Mistaking disagreement with war is idiotic, but what else is new?
If disagreement is with violence it is war, thank you!

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Old Jan 5, 2006, 09:45 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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If disagreement is with violence it is war, thank you!
So by your own definition no one here has ever declared war on you (jeez, what a silly thought). No one has ever threatened violence, nor could we carry out a violent action over the Internet. We've just expressed our disdain for your opinions and "debate style", if one can even call it that.
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 12:26 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Lili, when they attack with words of hate and personal insults they are declaring war on me. That is not debate, read the rules.
Jeez, zealot is everything war to you? When they attack with words of hate and personal insults IT IS NOT WAR, basically the term you would use is verbal assault. And who exactly "attacked" you in this manner. I have been on these boards for a few months now and i havent seen anyone attack you with words of hate or personal insult. And let it be known that nothing i reply to you with is meant to be used in that manner. I frankly dont get you. In another thread you said that torture and war are the same thing, which i already replied to. Now your saying that words of hate and personal insults are war. If it was considered war, wouldnt the rules say: NO WAR. Do you just think that everything that is negative or hurtful to a person is war? Whats the deal?


It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on peersonal freedom is what it is, okay?. Keep that in mind at all times, thank you.
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 02:29 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Zealot, ever hear the word "hypocrite?"

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Old Jan 5, 2006, 08:24 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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The only war I <3 is counter strike.
Amen...
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 08:31 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Whats the deal?
If you really wanna know, my research indicates that Zealot is a person in his late 70s who has little in common with the rest of us debaters here at volconvo. I think senility is having its effects.


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Old Jan 5, 2006, 08:35 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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If you really wanna know, my research indicates that Zealot is a person in his late 70s who has little in common with the rest of us debaters here at volconvo. I think senility is having its effects.
Is he really in his 70's or is that a guesstimate?


It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on peersonal freedom is what it is, okay?. Keep that in mind at all times, thank you.
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 08:53 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Estimate based on the fact that his sister served in the US armed forces during WWII...
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Let's see, that conflict ended 60 years ago. Most siblings are born within 10 years of one another, 15 at the outside of the bell curve. I would guess the sister at a minimum of early 80s, and Zealot at a minimum of early 70s, more likely late 70s.


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