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![]() Ready to Rok Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,932 | Quote:
Probing..... umm going to stay away from that. I find it funny to look at all the people who cry "GOVERNMENT CONSPIRARCY!!!!!" whenever the idea of aliens comes up. Believe me, if the aliens have landed, then I think the government would try to get every scource of fuel they have. Okay back to anal probing. Mabye it's the redneck's that anally probe the aliens. | |
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![]() Moderator Location: Wales Posts: 2,273 | Quote:
Society may be formed so as to exist without crime, without poverty, […] no obstacle whatsoever intervenes at this moment except ignorance to prevent such a state of society. Robert Owen | |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,793 | Quote:
I agree that life on other planets is probable. But that form of life has little chance to resemble us unless every condition of their planet matched this one. Aliens could be mold, slime or look like wombats. They could be as able to navigate the stars as we are. Bilateral symmetry may not be universal. That could result is some very odd looking aliens. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) | |
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| Evil Overlord Location: A Geofront, somewhere in Antarctica Posts: 938 | My guess is that at some point in the future, we will begin to colinize space. That is the time period in which we will most likely run into other lifeforms. I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front! -The Monarch |
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| Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,703 | Quote:
For the record. There probably are, but perhaps the earth, and its inhabitants are so insignificant, it doesn't matter to those who can travel here. On the other hand, maybe we are like a petri dish experiment and others are observing to see if we annihilate each other. We are pretty damned good at that now, aren't we? Whatever the case, with the endless possibilities of the millions of gallaxies out there, some astromoners believe the probablilities are very likely that they exist. Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T. | |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 244 | Quote:
- there are 7 skyies ( 7 is not to mean a total seven but to mean many ). - Also, Allah said that He put a curtain in front of our eyes , so we can't see through it ( means our imgination is limited ) etc. I do believe and would be extremely happy to me E.T. in my life. I do not beleive the Aliens will be something like in "Independence Day" !!! | |
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| Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972 | Though "intelligent life" might exist elsewhere in the universe, I don't think it's a certainty. Likely any race that evolved elsewhere in the universe would neither have technology we'd even recognize, as it would not only likely differ from ours in evolution by at least millenia but would most probably differ in how its development path, nor would aliens seem at all likely to look humanoid. It's quite likely life, if it evolved elsewhere in the universe wouldn't even have much of any resemblance to any life forms on Earth. We think of life as being carbon based life using DNA. How likely is it that life elsewhere would develop similarly? (Maybe we'll find out someday) Who's to say the Earth itself isn't alive in some sense and we're fleas on its back? I bet insects don't view humans as intelligent life and we don't view bacteria as intelligent life. Why would two life forms, differing in evolution and technology by potentially millions of years and alternate paths see much of any similarities? Do we even really have a good definition of what life is? Does it have to speak English for us to consider it intelligent? I just mean that it's not impossible that even trees are alive and have senses which can experience life and react to the environment. Simply because the "life" of a tree might be seen as metabolically much slower than humans, they still "bleed" in a sense ... sap in a tree operates in a manner similar to blood. Trees "see" light and bend toward it. They are composed of individual cells and reproduce and have DNA etc. Yet simply because they can't walk or talk in any way obvious to us, we don't see them as obvious life forms. We might appear like buzzing flies to a tree. How intelligent would humans appear to a tree? On another planet, if we found trees we might consider that life (though unintelligent ... but how can we really know? Wouldn't it take some form of intelligence to grow, seek out sources of food and reproduce? Intelligence seems less a black and white issue but more shades of gray).My view is that if it walks on two legs, with knees and hands and eyes ... it's human ... if it doesn't look human, then it's likely wearing a costume. Unless I really have some first hand knowledge of aliens, I'm rather certain I'll remain skeptical of most the claims. Maybe that's because of television. Even the funky lights in the sky, or flying saucers seem most likely something human made, hoaxes or natural phenomenon and not a creation of extraterrestial intelligence. I might be overly skeptical but it's simply because some information people present you with is inaccurate, biased and/or untruthful. Maybe future firsthand experiences will change these views. Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com Last edited by SteveA; Dec 30, 2005 at 05:43 am. |
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| Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972 | Also, consider that all the examples we use of life share similar DNA. A monkey differs very noticably from a human (at least the difference is obvious from a human perspective ) and that's only the difference of a small percent of DNA. Even a tree has DNA that likely shares a lot of commonalities with humans, yet we hardly recognize trees as being alive and these are still terrestrial life forms. Consider that evolution on a distant planet might not even use DNA and then try to imagine the possible differences and that doesn't even include the very likely vast difference in technologies. Humans, on Earth 500 years ago likely wouldn't even recognize a limousine as a human artifact and that's something created by their own offspring a bit over a dozen generations later. I doubt we'd even recognize an alien life form if we saw one much less see an alien that had human traits.Back to the thread title "Do aliens exist?" - if the universe is eternal and life can come and go, then it's not impossible that life on Earth is a rather uncommon event. It seems we'll never have a good idea whether or not life exists elsewhere until we actually begin exploring more of the universe ... and who knows if we might not walk right past life and not even recognize it. Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com Last edited by SteveA; Dec 30, 2005 at 06:00 am. |
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| Pragmatist Location: UK London Posts: 1,979 | Yes aliens exist. No question about it, and if they don't or we can't find any then we will create them. I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me. Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway) |
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| Pragmatist Location: UK London Posts: 1,979 | Hmmm...alien = sentient being that is non human. All religious types therefore must believe in aliens as God fits that definition. I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me. Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway) |
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