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Old Nov 27, 2005, 01:34 pm   #81 (permalink) (top)
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Not since about the third centruy when Christians stopped killing each other over doctrinal isues and started killing Jews.
What about the few hundred years during the Crusades of recapturing the "homelands?"
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Old Nov 27, 2005, 01:39 pm   #82 (permalink) (top)
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What about the few hundred years during the Crusades of recapturing the "homelands?"
I am familiar with large massacres of Jews during the Crusades. I'm not sure what you are referring to. When the Christians captured Jerusalem, they murdered every man, woman and child in the city, Muslim and Jew.


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Old Nov 27, 2005, 02:21 pm   #83 (permalink) (top)
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I'm no skeptic and I'm not anti-semetic. For the most part, I'm agnostic, and find all religions equally untruthful; however, that's really not the point. The point is that I found some articles who have uncovered some pretty interesting/disturbing information. Read this article, then post comments on what should be done about this, or how you think this has affected our government.

http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

3 of the 4 top media conglomerates-owned by Jews.
The remaining conglomerate (AOL Time Warner), has Gerald Levin (a Jew) as Time Warner CEO, under Steve Case, the CEO of AOL-Time Warner.

Viacom (MTV, Nickelodeon), CBS, CNN, Time Warner (HBO, Warner Brothers Studio, Castle Rock Entertainment, New Line Cinema) + Publishing Dept.( Time, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune), Walt Disney Company (Walt Disney TV, Buena Vista Television, Touchstone Television) + Feature Film Dept. (Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Miramaz, Caravan Pictures), ABC (under Eisner at Walt Disney), ESPN (ABC owned), New World Entertainment, FOX (20th Century Films, FOX 2000,FOX TV), Dream Works Productions (By Spielburg and Katzenburg--both Jews), and Seagram Company Ltd. are ALL under CEO/ownership of Jews.

The list goes on: Spielburg, Katzenburg, Michael Eisner, Sumner Redstone, Gerald Levin, Laurence Tisch, Walter Isaacson, Steven Bornstein, Melvin Karmazin, Edgar Bronfman, Peter Chernin, and plenty more.

Read the article for more details and analysis. Again, this article is not anti-semetic, and I heard about this Jewish media conspiracy and I was a complete skeptic and called them anti-semetic untill I found all of this information myself. It's really interesting.

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I'm no skeptic and I'm not anti-semetic. For the most part, I'm agnostic, and find all religions equally untruthful; however, that's really not the point. The point is that I found some articles who have uncovered some pretty interesting/disturbing information. Read this article, then post comments on what should be done about this, or how you think this has affected our government.

http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

3 of the 4 top media conglomerates-owned by Jews.
The remaining conglomerate (AOL Time Warner), has Gerald Levin (a Jew) as Time Warner CEO, under Steve Case, the CEO of AOL-Time Warner.

Viacom (MTV, Nickelodeon), CBS, CNN, Time Warner (HBO, Warner Brothers Studio, Castle Rock Entertainment, New Line Cinema) + Publishing Dept.( Time, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune), Walt Disney Company (Walt Disney TV, Buena Vista Television, Touchstone Television) + Feature Film Dept. (Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Miramaz, Caravan Pictures), ABC (under Eisner at Walt Disney), ESPN (ABC owned), New World Entertainment, FOX (20th Century Films, FOX 2000,FOX TV), Dream Works Productions (By Spielburg and Katzenburg--both Jews), and Seagram Company Ltd. are ALL under CEO/ownership of Jews.

The list goes on: Spielburg, Katzenburg, Michael Eisner, Sumner Redstone, Gerald Levin, Laurence Tisch, Walter Isaacson, Steven Bornstein, Melvin Karmazin, Edgar Bronfman, Peter Chernin, and plenty more.

Read the article for more details and analysis. Again, this article is not anti-semetic, and I heard about this Jewish media conspiracy and I was a complete skeptic and called them anti-semetic untill I found all of this information myself. It's really interesting.

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As a result of the Jewish holocast, and centuries of Christian discrimination against Jews, Jews are very well organized, internationally, to exercise a high degree of media control.
The most powerful organization may be the Anti-Deflamation League that has the ability to contact interested Jews and get them to act if a speaker, article or book is in anyway anti semitic. The Muslims and Arabs just are not that well organized outside of their own countries, so they have done a very poor job in representing themselves. This is also complicated by being immigrants living in fear of deportation if they speak up. This problem silencing non citizen Muslims, got much worse sense 9/11. Silencing Muslims is also more than a political/social issue, it is a religious issue with Muslims being the active recruiters of followers competing with Christianity.

The article covers too many issues. Democracy can not tolerate racism, because it goes against the principles of democracy. This subject is better aproached as discusion of democratic values, instead of racism.

When democratic values are not understood, there are many problems, including a mass that is ethno-centric, reactionary and easily malnipulated. Because Germans were artistic, intellectual people, and also very independent and not united by culture, they had no defense when the Purssians took over. This same phenomia has happened in the US, since education for a technological society with unknown values. Democracy was not always an unknown value, but it is today. Now the US citizen is as reactionary and divided as the Germans who the Prussians could dominate politically. Like the New World Order people have come to dominate the US.
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 07:40 pm   #84 (permalink) (top)
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Here's something interesting. I recently saw something on another board stating that in some countries it's illegal for someone to deny the Holocaust. I've got to admit that's pretty funky. I did a search and someone else said such laws existed in 82 countries! That sounds too much to believe. The subject even has a wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Here another link I found on this:

Historian Charged With Denying Holocaust
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&feed=rss.news

I personally would believe having such laws would be counterproductive to the issue as ironically they would seem to actually give greater legitimacy to the claims of those denying the holocaust.


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Old Nov 28, 2005, 07:47 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge. I think it was even mentioned in this thread. There's a guy in jail in Canada for it. Germany is very strict on it too.

EDIT: Sorry it was in the Denying the Holocaust thread. I got the two confused.

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Old Nov 29, 2005, 07:35 am   #86 (permalink) (top)
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I personally would believe having such laws would be counterproductive to the issue as ironically they would seem to actually give greater legitimacy to the claims of those denying the holocaust.
There's a guy in jail where I live too. He's a mindless, goose-stepping fascist creep, but jailing him is wrong because I think he has the right to say that black is white and white is black, but also because it makes him a martyr and, as you say, makes him appear to the brainless to have greater legitimacy.


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Old Nov 29, 2005, 07:42 am   #87 (permalink) (top)
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If I named a random profession -- like say a trawler boat captain -- and told you to find me a laundry list of Protestant captains, it probably wouldn't be too hard. Would this indicative of a Protestant conspiracy in the fishing industry?
I think this list ( if true ) proves that Jews are more capable than any other relegious sects .
That's all . If this is to relate with Jews conpiracy - I've a different view.
The media of England will always support the English footbal / Cricket teams ( even when they play awfully bad ). It is not the English conspiracy !

It is biased view that we have . Jews media can offcourse find more good things in Jews / Israel and more bad things in Islamic issues.
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Old Nov 29, 2005, 01:47 pm   #88 (permalink) (top)
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Ghumanto, that still shows what could be a serious problem.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 04:12 am   #89 (permalink) (top)
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A good deal of anti-Semitism today exists simply because of a request made years ago: "Give us, Barabas!"

"We don't deal with terrorists", U.S. Government stance. Then why were we dealing with Yitzak Shamir (member of the Haganah), or M. Begin (member of the Stern gang)? Both were well known terrorist cells in what was to become Israel.

Why doesn't anyone ever want to talk about that???
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Why we have to stick to a taboo that Israel and it's crimes can't be discussed ?? Why anyone who raises these isues has to be labelled as Anti-Semitic ???
Why can't we grab Ariel Sharon and send to The Hague for the genocide he masterminded in Sabra and Shatila and in Zenin ???
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 04:17 am   #90 (permalink) (top)
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Because first it's criticism, then it's THE OVENS.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 04:21 am   #91 (permalink) (top)
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Because first it's criticism, then it's THE OVENS.
I'm a dumbhead! Please elaborate as I failed to catch the essence of your message.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 04:32 am   #92 (permalink) (top)
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Heh. I was on another forum a while back, and anytime someone comments on Judaism in any way that was remotely negative, this Jewish person would get all bent out of shape and tell us that it always starts with criticism but ends with "the ovens." Basically claiming that it's criticism that lead to the holocaust, and that by criticising their faith we were beginning steps towards more persecution.

In other words, basically just being a crybaby bitch and whining about stupid shit.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 05:25 am   #93 (permalink) (top)
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Heh. I was on another forum a while back, and anytime someone comments on Judaism in any way that was remotely negative, this Jewish person would get all bent out of shape and tell us that it always starts with criticism but ends with "the ovens." Basically claiming that it's criticism that lead to the holocaust, and that by criticising their faith we were beginning steps towards more persecution.

In other words, basically just being a crybaby bitch and whining about stupid shit.
The word Holocaust always make me unnerved ! Let there be nothing of that kind again ( but it happening right before our eyes - the genicide in Rwanda , the silent genocide in Africa for oil/minerals , the genocide in Zenin and Falluzah !!! ).

I just want to see that we open up our mind and discuss everything that comes .
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 01:07 pm   #94 (permalink) (top)
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Why we have to stick to a taboo that Israel and it's crimes can't be discussed ?? Why anyone who raises these isues has to be labelled as Anti-Semitic ???
Israel is no special like any country you can criticize it for its wrong doing but when you concentrate only on Israel and don't pay attention to other sides of the conflict its may raise some questions
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For example, Yehuda Bauer has argued: "If you advocate the abolition of Israel...that means in fact that you're against the people who live there. If you are, for example, against the existence of Malaysia, you are anti-Malay. If you are against the existence of Israel, you are anti-Jewish." [7]

Another position is that criticism of Israel or Zionism is not in itself anti-Semitic, but that anti-Zionism can be used to hide anti-Semitism: Thomas Friedman for example writes, "Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction - out of proportion to any other party in the Middle East - is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest
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Why can't we grab Ariel Sharon and send to The Hague for the genocide he masterminded in Sabra and Shatila and in Zenin ???
You read too much palestinian propaganda open you mind to other points of view.

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Old Dec 1, 2005, 01:23 pm   #95 (permalink) (top)
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Bullshit. Being against Israel isn't anti-Jewish, it's anti-Zionist. Get a grip.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 01:30 pm   #96 (permalink) (top)
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Bullshit. Being against Israel isn't anti-Jewish, it's anti-Zionist. Get a grip.
And being against existance of France is not being anti-French?
Please explain why you dont agree with that quote
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If you are, for example, against the existence of Malaysia, you are anti-Malay. If you are against the existence of Israel, you are anti-Jewish
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 01:33 pm   #97 (permalink) (top)
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Because there are Jews all over the world. Not all of them are in Israel. Thus to be against Israel is to be against Israelis.

You're saying that to be against France is to be against White people. Your theory is bullshit zionist propaganda. Go blow up a school bus full of Egyptian children.
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 01:47 pm   #98 (permalink) (top)
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rBecause there are Jews all over the world. Not all of them are in Israel. Thus to be against Israel is to be against Israelis.
So there a lot of Chinise and Irish around the world so if you against existance of China or Ireland dont you feel you will be anti-Chinese and anti-Irish?
So you against Israeli Arabs and Druzes too?
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You're saying that to be against France is to be against White people
Where did i say such thing?
When you against existance of nation state you against the nation of this state too as simple as that.
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Go blow up a school bus full of Egyptian children.
You start using ad homs first sign of weakness
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Old Dec 1, 2005, 02:20 pm   #99 (permalink) (top)
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That's actually more of a red herring and sarcastic insult, shrike. But Belial, you shouldn't do that in a real debate. You can get away with it here in Miscellaneous, but just because shrike always backs his nation's policies is no reason to throw that kind of insult...


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Old Dec 1, 2005, 06:38 pm   #100 (permalink) (top)
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So there a lot of Chinise and Irish around the world so if you against existance of China or Ireland dont you feel you will be anti-Chinese and anti-Irish?
"China" is a nation. "Ireland" is a nation. "Israel" is a nation.

"Chiense" are a type of people. "Ireland" is a type of people. "Jews" are a type of people.

To say that being against Israel means being against Jews is ridiculous and you know it, especially since there are whole groups of Jews that are also against Israel.

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So you against Israeli Arabs and Druzes too?
I won't respond because that makes no sense.

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When you against existance of nation state you against the nation of this state too as simple as that.
Nonsense. Um. Yeah, that's correct. Being against a nation state means I'm against the nation of a state. Good job. Your logic skills are picking up.

But since not all Jews are Zionists, it's hardly relevant.

It's like saying that being against the KKK is being against Whites, since White people are in the KKK.

Similarly, you're saying being against Israel is being against Jews, since there are Jews in Israel.

Your logic makes no sense. Sorry, if Israel does things that are wrong I'm going to call them on it. You can cry anti-Semetism until you're blue in the face. I don't care.

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That's actually more of a red herring and sarcastic insult, shrike. But Belial, you shouldn't do that in a real debate. You can get away with it here in Miscellaneous, but just because shrike always backs his nation's policies is no reason to throw that kind of insult...
Right, just because Nazis back mass genocide is no reason to insult them. So what if they support mass murder?
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