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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:24 am   #21 (permalink) (top)
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That doesn't sound impossible. Then again it might be another group posing as Zionists, posing as Jewish

This is one of the reasons that it seems best to start off with something an individual knows is true and follow it to the source. Then it doesn't matter who's posing as who - because you know who's responsible. Like for example, I'm certain there are people counterfeiting and devaluing our currency and effectively stealing real products for mere paper or toggling bits in a computer. So one way to find out who's responsible for this is to have a few people stop using dollars as a currency and use something else instead - you don't have to dig into conspiracy theories to see who the guy is that comes knocking on your door or making threats via. mail etc. when you stop accepting their paper as a fair exchange of value and if the issue can't be resolved through that person alone, then you just work your way up the food chain until the problem is resolved one way or another.
Like when senators aren't being reelected after imposing that we pull funds from Israel? Or when head newsmen are being fired for certain reports that seem "anti-semitic" (Dan Rather resigning, 60 min. broadcast). Or when some of the top Jewish CEOs in the media conglomerates are also chairmen of the Jewish lobbying groups for federal office.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:27 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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I would think this should show more about why monopolies are bad, and not about the religion of those who are in charge of those monopolies.

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Old Nov 25, 2005, 07:51 am   #23 (permalink) (top)
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Like for example, I'm certain there are people counterfeiting and devaluing our currency and effectively stealing real products for mere paper or toggling bits in a computer.
I did mention that, above.

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So one way to find out who's responsible for this is to have a few people stop using dollars as a currency and use something else instead - you don't have to dig into conspiracy theories to see who the guy is that comes knocking on your door or making threats via. mail etc.
Someone attempted this and was sentenced to like 15 years in prison. My source is a book and I don't have a copy of the article online, but I can attempt to find some online reference later. It's been a while since I read it so I can't support my statement right now. I'll have to do some research.

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what percent of the board of representatives for the Federal Reserve are Jewish, Masons, Illuminate or Yale graduates etc. doesn't seem a critical factor in comparison to the need to simply stop using a currency that's primary valuable is simply created by force and threats instead of anything of utility and the best part of addressing the problems directly is that avoids a lot of possible mistakes.
It is a critical factor because as long as those people are in power you won't be able to fix the problem.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:42 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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I googled "jewish media conspiracy" and came up with this as the top entry: http://www.fixler.com/blojsom/blog/default
Berkeley based, kinda lefty Jewish website that are definitely not part of the mainstream propaganda machine that is majority owned and operated by Zionists.

Unfortunately, a large part of the foreign policy establishment in the US is also ethnically Jewish. This confluence of media and foreign policy wonks creates a distortion of US policy that favors the Zionist state. The Israeli Zionists know this and sometimes brag about it off camera.

On the other hand there is a definite agenda afoot to discredit and despise Jews, witness the stormfront.org in the initial reference of this thread. If you think you may have been influenced by this pathetic and xenophobic agenda, here is a test site for examining hidden prejudice: http://www.tolerance.org/hidden_bias/index.html

There IS a conspiracy to enslave and dominate the entire world, known as the New World Order. It is rather loose to be termed an actual conspiracy, more like an agenda with various groups participating. They all think that THEIR OWN agenda will predominate and that all will eventually become subservient to THEM. They are profoundly anti-democratic. But it is ridicluous to blame the Jews...


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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:59 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Unfortunately, a large part of the foreign policy establishment in the US is also ethnically Jewish. This confluence of media and foreign policy wonks creates a distortion of US policy that favors the Zionist state. The Israeli Zionists know this and sometimes brag about it off camera.

On the other hand there is a definite agenda afoot to discredit and despise Jews, witness the stormfront.org in the initial reference of this thread. If you think you may have been influenced by this pathetic and xenophobic agenda, here is a test site for examining hidden prejudice: http://www.tolerance.org/hidden_bias/index.html
Well said, Pat. Jewish culture undoubtedly fosters the ol' enterprising spirit. Jews head media conglomerates? Big deal. They also head a lot of other things, as could be expected from people who've been raised by Jewish mamas.

And what about them Anglo-Saxons? Now there's a conspiracy! :)


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Old Nov 25, 2005, 06:26 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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While researching, I found an article by John Kaminsky that slaps this issue squarely in the face. I disagree with Kaminsky on religion, but othewise his take on it is a well-articulated form of my own:
http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/jk_on_joos.htm
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if what the Jews were saying were actually true, they wouldn't need to pass laws to prevent their opponents from talking about it. They'd simply defeat them in an empirical argument, or in a court of law.

But to pass laws about talking about the events of World War II ... I mean, that's almost as bad as George W. Bush preventing a thorough investigation into the events of 9/11/2001. It's a certain admission of guilt, an undeniable indication of a falsehood being perpetrated.

I submit the degree to which a reader of this may be horrified by this pronouncement is exactly the degree to which this same reader has been indoctrinated by media myths that severely alter the truth.

And when you realize that the Jewish community has stamped out freedom of speech throughout much of Europe, you naturally have to ask what that same group has done to legitimate political debate in the United States of America.
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It's more of the same today. Nothing on TV or the big newspapers about the investigations into 9/11 or the anthrax murders, no coverage of the Palestinians being caged up in prison camps and murdered indiscriminately by bulldozers and helicopters on a daily basis, and not an audible peep about how it is Israel that has violated U.N. mandates about weapons of mass destruction and inhuman treatment of political prisoners. Yet the U.S. gives Israel so much money ($14 billion per year) that it has begun to tip over the entire American economy, and still not a peep in the American mass media ... because it is totally controlled by Jewish interests. This is not an exaggeration, no matter what trendy, left-leaning mass media observers like FAIR have to say about it.
Kaminsky goes on to say a lot of stuff I think is correct but unPC. I won't trouble the thread with it...


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Old Nov 25, 2005, 06:41 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Jews exploited the so-called Holocaust for a kind of political immunity. Let's be nice to them because they've had a hard time, everyone was encouraged to think.
So? Which aggrieved group doesn't do this? A parallel example would be the well-organized ethnic Armenians in France and their influence on that country's policy vis-à-vis Turkey.

The Zionists have milked the Holocaust? Goodness me, whatever next?! Who could stoop so low?


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Old Nov 25, 2005, 07:10 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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I would say taking advantage of other's pain and suffering to further your own ends while destroying those who oppose you is pretty low, actually.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 07:18 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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Jew are inordinately successful in many areas of business, but I don't attribute it to some conspiracy.

Following the conquest of Israel, Jews were scattered throughout Europe. During the Roman Empire and then the Christian empire -- also known as the Dark or Middle ages -- Jews in Europe were not allowed to own property or hold rank. However, there was one area particularly suited to them. European nobility looked down on the handling of money and business... it was beneath them. At the same time, with the growth of mercantilism and trade, it became obvious that educated businessmen and money handlers were a necessity. Jews, who traditionally valued education but could not own property, were perfectly positioned to play the vital role of merchants and usurers.... bankers. In fact, it was one of the few occupations allowed to them. One need only refer to Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice" to see this in action. Same with diamond trading, gold and silver trading, etc. Goldberg, Silverberg... get it?

It turns out that banking and trading in precious metals is highly lucrative, making many Jews quite wealthy. And because of the universal discrimination, Jews stick together and can be somewhat insular.

And finally, they're destined to remain a minority. Unlike Christians and Moslems, Jews don't prosthelatize... they don't seek converts. You're either Jewish, or you're not. People can convert to Judaism if they like, but Jews don't go preaching for new Jews.

Anyway, media is just another lucrative business that educated Jews were positioned to step into and could do well at.

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Old Nov 25, 2005, 09:55 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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First of all anyone who starts by claiming not to be anti-semitic and then posts a link to www.stormfront.org, either needs to buy a clue or should work on increasing the subtley of his sarcasm. Jesus Fucking Christ, to mention another Jew.


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Old Nov 25, 2005, 10:03 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, because using information from an antisemitic source automatically makes you antisemitic. Just like referencing a Republican website automatically makes you a Republican.

Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 01:01 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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First of all anyone who starts by claiming not to be anti-semitic and then posts a link to www.stormfront.org, either needs to buy a clue or should work on increasing the subtley of his sarcasm. Jesus Fucking Christ, to mention another Jew.
First of all anyone who starts immaturely complaining about factual evidence that supports a claim is blind as a bat.
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 01:13 am   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Soccer, you really ought to know that stormfront is a skinhead publication. Nazi websites don't buy you much cred for your lack of bias...

Couldn't you find the statistics and opinion someplace less heinously vituperative, like maybe David Duke? http://www.davidduke.com/


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Old Nov 26, 2005, 01:17 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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He already said he knew what Stormfront is. That's not the point. He verified that the facts were correct.

Ha ha, David Duke. I get it. :-|
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 04:46 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Jewish/Hebrew drive to be succesful is a crime now, there are a lot of successful people in the world so do they have a conspiracy going on also. Oh no it's just the jews because they are evil right.
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 09:42 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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First of all anyone who starts immaturely complaining about factual evidence that supports a claim is blind as a bat.
Soccerfreak, you go quoting neo-nazi skinheads and then complain when someone points out that you are quoting neo-nazi skinheads. Sure you are not anti-semitic. Give me a break.

If you do have any real interest in a discussion of why various ethic groups have prospered to various degrees in America you might look at Tom Sowell's "Ethnic America".

Of course, anyone who reads Stormfront skinhead crap probably isn't interested.


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I would say taking advantage of other's pain and suffering to further your own ends while destroying those who oppose you is pretty low, actually.
So would I. Unfortunately, like ethnic cleansing and a lot of other things it's the way of the world. Zionists wouldn't be human if they didn't do it.

This guy Kaminski spends a hell of a lot of time in his piece boasting about how he offends everybody. As if that makes his position somehow ahh neutral.

If you look at anti-Semitism historically, you see that Jews play the role of scapegoat, a thing we all need. Would life be worth living if we didn't have someone to blame all our problems on?

To some extent ethnic Chinese living in Southeast Asia play a similar role.


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Soccerfreak, you go quoting neo-nazi skinheads and then complain when someone points out that you are quoting neo-nazi skinheads. Sure you are not anti-semitic. Give me a break.

If you do have any real interest in a discussion of why various ethic groups have prospered to various degrees in America you might look at Tom Sowell's "Ethnic America".

Of course, anyone who reads Stormfront skinhead crap probably isn't interested.
So what is your point right now? Are you saying my facts are wrong, because you can get off your ass and check them yourself. Are you just ranting to let off steam, or to cover your own bias? Or do you enjoy pointing anti-semetic fingers at people who post factual information from a completely biased website. This isn't statistical date. This isn't opinion. This is factual evidence. I was asking for comments on the coincidence of the Jewish in the media, then relating it to the long lasting interest in Israeli defense and interests. Thanks for providing no evidence of your own, and no rebuttal. If you want to provide something, please do, or get the hell out of the thread. I'm sick of people like you who are obsessed at pointing fingers at people via internet. You don't even know me. I post factual information from a biased website and now I "read Stormfront skinhead crap." Get a life.
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Jewish/Hebrew drive to be succesful is a crime now, there are a lot of successful people in the world so do they have a conspiracy going on also. Oh no it's just the jews because they are evil right.
Because I said they are evil, right? Grow up child.
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Heaven forbid we discuss the poor misunderstood Jews, oops, I'm a Nazi now.
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