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Plasma Snake[D] · Nov 19, 2005, 02:48 am

Damn, it's weird how we all came here from other countries. Our ancestors were mostly very below the image we would like to bear. I'm not arguing "ownership" or "rights" over the land, but it comes to show you how an inviting environment breeded greed among the advantaged.The ones who had the upper hand somehow... There is no other "country" that boasts such a diversity, correct me if Im wrong

Walmas · Nov 19, 2005, 08:42 am

We all won the greatest lottery you can win. We were born in the USA.

Nono · Nov 19, 2005, 08:49 am

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There is no other "country" that boasts such a diversity, correct me if Im wrong.

Oh I think Canada might give you a run for your self-congratulatory money.

Walmas · Nov 19, 2005, 08:55 am

Yes canada or any EU contry minus the soviet block. But america still is a great place to live even when the population is confused and government is corrupt. What other contrys do people die to get into?

Nono · Nov 19, 2005, 09:02 am

The UK, Australia, Spain, Italy, Canada ... and the list goes on.

Walmas · Nov 19, 2005, 09:52 am

yeah But that i list is alot smaller than the list of contrys you wouldnt want to be born in.

Nono · Nov 19, 2005, 11:11 am

Kinda backpedalling there, W.

Plasma Snake[D] · Nov 20, 2005, 10:30 am

But do you guys think there is a trade off between comfort and identity? Think of those other countries that have it hard but somehow live happier.

G. Adams · Nov 21, 2005, 08:19 am

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The UK, Australia, Spain, Italy, Canada ... and the list goes on.

Nah, UK has an ethnic minority population of about 8%, while the US runs at about 25-30% I believe. If you took London out of the equasion that percentage would drop further.

Or are we talking about variety alone?

Walmas · Nov 21, 2005, 08:30 am

But you cant argue with canada

Nono · Nov 21, 2005, 08:32 am

You can hardly expect countries that have been the object of mass immigration for only a couple of decades -- by contrast with the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Argentina, etc. -- to have quite the same variety. That may come with time.

(Also, why would you take away London? Then better take away NY, LA, etc.)

G. Adams · Nov 21, 2005, 09:08 am

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You can hardly expect countries that have been the object of mass immigration for only a couple of decades -- by contrast with the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Argentina, etc. -- to have quite the same variety. That may come with time.

(Also, why would you take away London? Then better take away NY, LA, etc.)

London is not not reflective of the UK as a whole. If you only knew the UK from London, you would assume we are a vibrant, multi-cultural and cosmopolitan society. We're not. We're largely homogenous, divided and suspicious of the "other" communities. And while the US may be divided and even more bigoted than we are, you can hardly call it homogenous.

Plasma Snake[D] · Nov 22, 2005, 07:06 pm

Could one compare it to Rome? Or the Tower of Babylon? Or my left breast upon which I lay my sword, O! ye peasant?

Walmas · Nov 22, 2005, 07:54 pm

Im not getting something plasma

CoffeeSaint · Nov 22, 2005, 08:06 pm

No wonder the rest of the world hates us. "We're the best! Woo! Everyone wants to come here! Woo!" Soooo, how many U.S. citizens are immigrants? Directly, I mean; it hardly seems fair to base our popularity on immigration trends from 100 years ago. Count how many Americans you know that live within, say, a mile of you. Now count the immigrants. And you still think everyone wants to come here? You still think everyone wants to be like us? Why would they?
I live here, and I don't want to be like us.
Nono, mi dispiace. Sono stronzi.
Oder: Entschuldigung. Wir sind Arschlochen.

EDIT: (Too bitter.) Look, we do great things; we are great people. But it's not because we're Americans, it's because we're people. People are good, including us. But Americans, when we put on our national superhero outfit, are really horrible to the rest of the world, and it ain't a good thing. As individuals, we're really nice; some of my best friends are Americans. But we have to start seeing our birthplace as just circumstance; it shouldn't define us.

Walmas · Nov 22, 2005, 08:14 pm

Well i love this song here.http://www.funfreepages.com/flash/america_fuck_yeah.php

Son of Belial · Nov 22, 2005, 08:35 pm

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But you cant argue with canada

Canada doesn't count as a country.

Walmas · Nov 22, 2005, 08:39 pm

Because its next to the united states?

Son of Belial · Nov 22, 2005, 08:43 pm

I didn't mean to say that out loud, I thought I was just thinking it.

Walmas · Nov 22, 2005, 10:42 pm

Okay then

Nov 19, 2005, 02:48 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Plasma Snake[D] Cause for Concern Location: Planet Earth Posts: 664	A slice of "America" Damn, it's weird how we all came here from other countries. Our ancestors were mostly very below the image we would like to bear. I'm not arguing "ownership" or "rights" over the land, but it comes to show you how an inviting environment breeded greed among the advantaged.The ones who had the upper hand somehow... There is no other "country" that boasts such a diversity, correct me if Im wrong

Nov 19, 2005, 08:42 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	We all won the greatest lottery you can win. We were born in the USA. Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 19, 2005, 08:55 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	Yes canada or any EU contry minus the soviet block. But america still is a great place to live even when the population is confused and government is corrupt. What other contrys do people die to get into? Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 19, 2005, 09:02 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,768	The UK, Australia, Spain, Italy, Canada ... and the list goes on. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Nov 19, 2005, 09:52 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	yeah But that i list is alot smaller than the list of contrys you wouldnt want to be born in. Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 19, 2005, 11:11 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,768	Kinda backpedalling there, W. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Nov 20, 2005, 10:30 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Plasma Snake[D] Cause for Concern Location: Planet Earth Posts: 664	But do you guys think there is a trade off between comfort and identity? Think of those other countries that have it hard but somehow live happier.

Nov 21, 2005, 08:30 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	But you cant argue with canada Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 21, 2005, 08:32 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,768	You can hardly expect countries that have been the object of mass immigration for only a couple of decades -- by contrast with the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Argentina, etc. -- to have quite the same variety. That may come with time. (Also, why would you take away London? Then better take away NY, LA, etc.) "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Nov 22, 2005, 07:06 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Plasma Snake[D] Cause for Concern Location: Planet Earth Posts: 664	Could one compare it to Rome? Or the Tower of Babylon? Or my left breast upon which I lay my sword, O! ye peasant?

Nov 22, 2005, 07:54 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	Im not getting something plasma Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:06 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
CoffeeSaint Moral Turnip Location: Oregon, US Posts: 2,283	No wonder the rest of the world hates us. "We're the best! Woo! Everyone wants to come here! Woo!" Soooo, how many U.S. citizens are immigrants? Directly, I mean; it hardly seems fair to base our popularity on immigration trends from 100 years ago. Count how many Americans you know that live within, say, a mile of you. Now count the immigrants. And you still think everyone wants to come here? You still think everyone wants to be like us? Why would they? I live here, and I don't want to be like us. Nono, mi dispiace. Sono stronzi. Oder: Entschuldigung. Wir sind Arschlochen. EDIT: (Too bitter.) Look, we do great things; we are great people. But it's not because we're Americans, it's because we're people. People are good, including us. But Americans, when we put on our national superhero outfit, are really horrible to the rest of the world, and it ain't a good thing. As individuals, we're really nice; some of my best friends are Americans. But we have to start seeing our birthplace as just circumstance; it shouldn't define us. "Would you like some pie, Dr. Stark?" "Science is my pie. Curiosity, my sweet tooth. Knowledge is my candy." Last edited by CoffeeSaint; Nov 22, 2005 at 08:08 pm.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:14 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	Well i love this song here.http://www.funfreepages.com/flash/america_fuck_yeah.php Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:39 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	Because its next to the united states? Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:43 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
Son of Belial BANNED: Requested ban Location: Acheron 27 Posts: 1,461	I didn't mean to say that out loud, I thought I was just thinking it.

Nov 22, 2005, 10:42 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Walmas Igneous Magma Posts: 349	Okay then Dont pray in my school and i wont think in your church.