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PatrickHenry · Nov 4, 2005, 03:32 pm

The member Zealot. He starts lots of threads that seem to be disjointed and poorly supported. I just saw that his threads were the six at the top of the new posts list... he does "remain engaged", but I can't say much for his style. I don't think he is a real asset to the site, but maybe a lot of you folks feel the same way about me, heh.

Anyway, I wish Zealot would be more coherent and logical in his arguments. I don't mind that right wing, Bushbot attitude of his, 'cause it gives us libs something to argue with. But is it asking too much to expect a bit of sophistry?

He's not exactly a troll, because he doesn't flame or insult, and as for rudeness, shoot, I'm meaner than him. And I'm a nice guy (everybody knows that...)

But sometimes I wish he hadn't discovered us...

Son of Belial · Nov 4, 2005, 04:27 pm

You're just mad because his made-up story proved cowardice is the ultimate sin. This upsets you because the point is so relevant to all of our lives.

Scribbler1 · Nov 4, 2005, 06:10 pm

Help or hindrance? Neither. We're all free to respond or ignore and as long as he remains civil, the level of coherance doesn't bother me.

I've seen a LOT worse.

Son of Belial · Nov 4, 2005, 06:20 pm

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Help or hindrance? Neither. We're all free to respond or ignore and as long as he remains civil, the level of coherance doesn't bother me.

I've seen a LOT worse.

Him I would not report but when you speak for the bad person I ears are aroused curiosity you could potentially speaking for our friend CheckMate. Because they have a scratch themselves be if you think but each see have your open brain. You do not go agreed? Do not we all do this?

Scribbler1 · Nov 4, 2005, 06:21 pm

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Him I would not report but when you speak for the bad person I ears are aroused curiosity you could potentially speaking for our friend CheckMate. Because they have a scratch themselves be if you think but each see have your open brain. You do not go agreed? Do not we all do this?

Will you stop that already?

**Jack** · Nov 4, 2005, 06:28 pm

As much as I frequently disagree with Zealot, I too would not consider him the worst, or even close to the worst, I've ever run into on a forum. He's a bit full of himself, but that's not a crime.
Of course you're free to disregard my opinion as I thought Checkmate was really trying to make sense. I was totally unaware of the crap he was pulling in the background. Maybe I'm being too charitable (which I believe could be the greatest sin according to the athiest's code

).

Sonart · Nov 4, 2005, 06:31 pm

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Him I would not report but when you speak for the bad person I ears are aroused curiosity you could potentially speaking for our friend CheckMate. Because they have a scratch themselves be if you think but each see have your open brain. You do not go agreed? Do not we all do this?

ROFLMAOAHMSCIH!!

(rolling on the floor laughing my ass of and holding my sides cuz it hurts :) )

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Son of Belial · Nov 5, 2005, 03:02 am

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Will you stop that already?

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(rolling on the floor laughing my ass of and holding my sides cuz it hurts )

One vote for, one vote against. Hm. Not sure about this.

I finally found a talent I'm good at, and you want to shatter my dreams. If I find something I can do well, I should go for it. Don't you agree? Do not we all do this?

Finally...

Zealot · Nov 5, 2005, 03:32 am

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The member Zealot. He starts lots of threads that seem to be disjointed and poorly supported. I just saw that his threads were the six at the top of the new posts list... he does "remain engaged", but I can't say much for his style. I don't think he is a real asset to the site, but maybe a lot of you folks feel the same way about me, heh.

Anyway, I wish Zealot would be more coherent and logical in his arguments. I don't mind that right wing, Bushbot attitude of his, 'cause it gives us libs something to argue with. But is it asking too much to expect a bit of sophistry?

He's not exactly a troll, because he doesn't flame or insult, and as for rudeness, shoot, I'm meaner than him. And I'm a nice guy (everybody knows that...)

But sometimes I wish he hadn't discovered us...

PAT, would you want all Patricks, does a Zealot pose a fear?

Zealot

Zealot · Nov 5, 2005, 03:34 am

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You're just mad because his made-up story proved cowardice is the ultimate sin. This upsets you because the point is so relevant to all of our lives.

WHY thank you Son, I am pleasently surprised and complimented all in one! But you are right as usual!

Zealot

**Matt W** · Nov 5, 2005, 07:32 am

Ah, spot the sarcasm blinkers...

rcne · Nov 5, 2005, 08:34 am

Ah celebrate the diversity of this place. Isn't that the prime mover here?

bishop · Nov 5, 2005, 12:22 pm

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PAT, would you want all Patricks, does a Zealot pose a fear?

Zealot

heh.. maybe this is just me, but i don't have a damn clue what you were trying to say here.

*got pcp?*

Son of Belial · Nov 5, 2005, 12:53 pm

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WHY thank you Son, I am pleasently surprised and complimented all in one! But you are right as usual!

Zealot

You also have a natural ability to miss blatant sarcasm.

Sonart · Nov 5, 2005, 12:59 pm

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You also have a natural ability to miss blatant sarcasm.

Don't you hate when that happens... you toss out just a great line, then... whoosh... right over their heads.

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RickSp · Nov 5, 2005, 01:26 pm

I find Zealot to be mostly a waste of space. He makes entertainingly over the top and/or insane comments and often gets his facts wildly wrong. Not a bad sort really, but he doesn't actually enter into a debate with anyone. Easy to ignore, usually necessary to ignore.

bishop · Nov 5, 2005, 01:31 pm

i don't think i've ever bothered to read one of his posts to be honest..

CoffeeSaint · Nov 6, 2005, 05:14 pm

I think he's a detractor. Without a target that easy, we'd start fighting each other, which would improve our sparring abilities and allow us to clarify our own opinions -- surely the goal of good debate? As it is now, we seem to be experts in zinging Zealot, but what else have we done? Look at me: I can nail him, but any of the rest of you pick on me, I curl up in a ball and wave my fists like a wailing newborn, damnit. I need to get in more fights with you all, not scan the threads looking for Zealot's posts to mock to reclaim some of my tattered self esteem.
Well what do you know -- I'm pretty good at zinging myself, too.

Scribbler1 · Nov 6, 2005, 05:29 pm

I don't think it's a fair fight, actually. I can't remember when our resident Lewis Carroll made enough sense to display a point you can go after.

Sonart · Nov 6, 2005, 06:39 pm

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I don't think it's a fair fight, actually. I can't remember when our resident Lewis Carroll made enough sense to display a point you can go after.

Exactly... it's like arguing with a six yr-old. As any fan of Calvin and Hobbes knows, when you're playing Calvinball, the goal is not to acquire skill but simply to win, by changing the rules in your favor whenever necessary, whether it makes sense or not.

Nov 4, 2005, 03:32 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Zealot: Help or Hindrance? The member Zealot. He starts lots of threads that seem to be disjointed and poorly supported. I just saw that his threads were the six at the top of the new posts list... he does "remain engaged", but I can't say much for his style. I don't think he is a real asset to the site, but maybe a lot of you folks feel the same way about me, heh. Anyway, I wish Zealot would be more coherent and logical in his arguments. I don't mind that right wing, Bushbot attitude of his, 'cause it gives us libs something to argue with. But is it asking too much to expect a bit of sophistry? He's not exactly a troll, because he doesn't flame or insult, and as for rudeness, shoot, I'm meaner than him. And I'm a nice guy (everybody knows that...) But sometimes I wish he hadn't discovered us... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Nov 4, 2005, 06:28 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,867	As much as I frequently disagree with Zealot, I too would not consider him the worst, or even close to the worst, I've ever run into on a forum. He's a bit full of himself, but that's not a crime. Of course you're free to disregard my opinion as I thought Checkmate was really trying to make sense. I was totally unaware of the crap he was pulling in the background. Maybe I'm being too charitable (which I believe could be the greatest sin according to the athiest's code ). The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Nov 5, 2005, 07:32 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	Ah, spot the sarcasm blinkers... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Nov 5, 2005, 08:34 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
rcne Moderator/nobody Posts: 1,566	Ah celebrate the diversity of this place. Isn't that the prime mover here? Live Long and Prosper (Genetics and Capitalism)

Nov 5, 2005, 01:26 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
RickSp Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,491	I find Zealot to be mostly a waste of space. He makes entertainingly over the top and/or insane comments and often gets his facts wildly wrong. Not a bad sort really, but he doesn't actually enter into a debate with anyone. Easy to ignore, usually necessary to ignore. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Nov 4, 2005, 04:27 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Son of Belial BANNED: Requested ban Location: Acheron 27 Posts: 1,461	You're just mad because his made-up story proved cowardice is the ultimate sin. This upsets you because the point is so relevant to all of our lives.

Nov 4, 2005, 06:10 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	Help or hindrance? Neither. We're all free to respond or ignore and as long as he remains civil, the level of coherance doesn't bother me. I've seen a LOT worse.

Nov 5, 2005, 01:31 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	i don't think i've ever bothered to read one of his posts to be honest.. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Nov 6, 2005, 05:14 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
CoffeeSaint Moral Turnip Location: Oregon, US Posts: 2,283	I think he's a detractor. Without a target that easy, we'd start fighting each other, which would improve our sparring abilities and allow us to clarify our own opinions -- surely the goal of good debate? As it is now, we seem to be experts in zinging Zealot, but what else have we done? Look at me: I can nail him, but any of the rest of you pick on me, I curl up in a ball and wave my fists like a wailing newborn, damnit. I need to get in more fights with you all, not scan the threads looking for Zealot's posts to mock to reclaim some of my tattered self esteem. Well what do you know -- I'm pretty good at zinging myself, too. "Would you like some pie, Dr. Stark?" "Science is my pie. Curiosity, my sweet tooth. Knowledge is my candy."

Nov 6, 2005, 05:29 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	I don't think it's a fair fight, actually. I can't remember when our resident Lewis Carroll made enough sense to display a point you can go after.