Socialism, Sodomy and Surrender

[Logjam]

After some thought I've cooked up what should be the new motto of the Democrat Party. It should be: Democrats; the party of Socialism, Sodomy and Surrender. It just fits.

To the above one might add: Saddness and Separation.

The reasons for codifying the motto? It's because it fits. Here's why:

Socialism: Democrats LOVE socialist programs such as socialized medical care. They'd support the government giving a living wage to anyone. I could list a dozen more. But you get my drift.

Sodomy: We all understand that the Demos adore sodomists. They want homosexual marriage, homosexuals in the military etc, etc... They admit to being the party for so called homosexual rights.

Surrender: a great many Demos want us to cut and run in Iraq. Screw the fact that we are carrying the war to the enemy and fighting them there, and fighting for Iraqi freedom.

Saddness: have you ever been to a party of Liberals? It's like a dirge, a funeral. They are a mad, frustrated, depressed and angry lot. No giggles there.

Finally Seperation: Demos love, and rely on class warfare. They foment racism by fueling Black frustration. They are not an inclusive group. Did you see the Wellmen service? How'd they treat Republicans that showed up there?

Yep, I think I've got the Demos tagged. They are indeed the party of Socialism, Sodomy, Surrender, Saddness and Seperation. I love it.

[fedfem]

Boy, do you spell bad.

[RickSp]

Two words, Logjam: seek help.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I would drop the Sodamy charge, while they are tagged as the "gay rights" party this is for political convience more so then anything thing else. Like blacks and hispanics, they seek to forment the belief that only through thier benevolent leadership in government can those they seek to help make it. And they get to attack the right as "uncaring".

Change the Sodamy with Exploiting and I think you have them tagged.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Logjam Wellmen service?

What are you talking about?

This isn't a debatable topic anyway. It's a shitty poorly thought out rant. You are full of it, Logjam. It's people like you that make conservatives go Libertarian. Go back to your hole, ya' big government Republican troglodyte.

[Jack]

Oh, I thought it was parody.
Not good parody, though. To be good, it has to sound less totally insane and more believable, more like something a person with a brain might put together.

[fedfem]

Quote by: PatrickHenry What are you talking about? This isn't a debatable topic anyway. It's a shitty poorly thought out rant. You are full of it, Logjam. It's people like you that make conservatives go Libertarian. Go back to your hole, ya' big government Republican troglodyte.

He meant Wellstone, I imagine.

[Logjam]

Quote by: fedfem Boy, do you spell bad.

Spelling, as you have noted is not my long suit. I've always said that if I could spell I'd be dangerous.

I do my best, but as I said spelling is a mystery to me.

[Logjam]

Quote by: RickSp Two words, Logjam: seek help.

I love it! I need help eh? Why's that? Discuss my premise. Why shouldn't we tag the Demos with the Motto the party of Socialism, Sodomy and Surrender?

After all, they love socialism, Sodomy doesn't exist to them, and many/most want to Surrender in Iraq.

[Logjam]

Quote by: fedfem He meant Wellstone, I imagine.

Yeah, I didn't know how to spell Wellstone's name. I'd forgotten it. I was kind of close though, and as far as I am concerned I got close enough. You got it right?

So, after you've cooled off, try to address my concept. You can call me names all you want. It's typical of a liberal. But deal with my thesis. Why shouldn't the Demos be known as the party of Socialism, Sodomy and Surrender? You tell me why it doesn't fit.

I also like Saddness and Separatism.

Now, I challenge you. Without sliding to typical Liberal name calling why shouldn't the Demo party be known as the party of Socialism, Sodomy, Surrender, Saddness and Separatism? I think it fits.

[Logjam]

Quote by: Isherwood Oh, I thought it was parody. Not good parody, though. To be good, it has to sound less totally insane and more believable, more like something a person with a brain might put together.

Ah, yes; another LIberal who hasn't the guts to deal with my premise. You should spend your time with DU, a site that only allows lock step Liberals.

You are great at name calling, but you haven't said anything to refute my new Demo Motto. Can you?

You see, Liberals do love Socialism, Sodomy, and Surrender. They are also very Sad (usually; unless they are going to a riot; and they enjoy dividing our society into parts and pitting them against one another.

Deal with my thesis. I challenge you.

[Logjam]

Quote by: PatrickHenry What are you talking about? This isn't a debatable topic anyway. It's a shitty poorly thought out rant. You are full of it, Logjam. It's people like you that make conservatives go Libertarian. Go back to your hole, ya' big government Republican troglodyte.

Still another Liberal who can't refute my thesis. How insightful of you PH. Since you can't offer a meaningful arguement I must assume that you agree with me. Which is, of course, the logical thing to do.

If you can, however; put two meaningful thougths together and come up with a thesis, then do so. You might surprise even yourself.

You've call me names now. Feel better? I hope so. Now deal with the Motto. Why am I wrong? I think I'm spot on.

Liberals are indeed a party of Socialism, Sodomy, Surrender, Saddness and Separatism.
Can't deal with the truth?

You, sir; are the joke.

[Jack]

What you've posted is so outrageously, over-the-top generalized and irrational as to defy refutation. I could try by pointing out that anyone who supports programs like socialized medicine is a long way from supporting socialism, which is an entire form of government. As far as I know, even liberals in America support our form of democracy. I could also point out the sodomy is a sexual act practiced by hetrosexuals and homosexuals alike, and that a relationship between a man and a woman can include sodomy as much as any other. Sodomy is not exclusive to the gay community. I could say that what you characterize as surrender others might call a desire for peace. I could even try to get you to try to grasp the idea that I'm not a liberal, nor am I a conservative. I'm a freethinker, a moderate, who examines issues by their own merits and takes a stand based on the facts in the case, not based on a mindless allegiance to any party line.
But I'd be wasting my time. The way you framed this conversation does not encourage debate or conversation. If you start a dialog with venom and insults, don't be surprised when no one wants to play your game.
BTW-I didn't call you any names. I did however refer to what you posted as mindless and insane, and suggested someone with a brain, or half of one for that matter, probably would have created a better posting. So there's my refutation of your points. It's mindless and insane. For proof, I offer your original post.

[fedfem]

Quote by: Logjam Ah, yes; another LIberal who hasn't the guts to deal with my premise. You should spend your time with DU, a site that only allows lock step Liberals. You are great at name calling, but you haven't said anything to refute my new Demo Motto. Can you? You see, Liberals do love Socialism, Sodomy, and Surrender. They are also very Sad (usually; unless they are going to a riot; and they enjoy dividing our society into parts and pitting them against one another. Deal with my thesis. I challenge you.

Well, I am not a liberal nor a democrat so can't speak for either but disagree with your rhetoric. Many of your assertations could be attached to many republicans as well. Jeff Gannon for one, Log Cabin Republicans, etc.... Conservatives are more into separatism than Liberals are--but both parties are big tents. I am not into generalizing.

Your attack was not a thesis by any means.

[Logjam]

Quote by: Isherwood What you've posted is so outrageously, over-the-top generalized and irrational as to defy refutation. I could try by pointing out that anyone who supports programs like socialized medicine is a long way from supporting socialism, which is an entire form of government. As far as I know, even liberals in America support our form of democracy. I could also point out the sodomy is a sexual act practiced by hetrosexuals and homosexuals alike, and that a relationship between a man and a woman can include sodomy as much as any other. Sodomy is not exclusive to the gay community. I could say that what you characterize as surrender others might call a desire for peace. I could even try to get you to try to grasp the idea that I'm not a liberal, nor am I a conservative. I'm a freethinker, a moderate, who examines issues by their own merits and takes a stand based on the facts in the case, not based on a mindless allegiance to any party line. But I'd be wasting my time. The way you framed this conversation does not encourage debate or conversation. If you start a dialog with venom and insults, don't be surprised when no one wants to play your game. BTW-I didn't call you any names. I did however refer to what you posted as mindless and insane, and suggested someone with a brain, or half of one for that matter, probably would have created a better posting. So there's my refutation of your points. It's mindless and insane. For proof, I offer your original post.

Whhoooaa, partner!

You must understand that I'm a Republican writing about what I think many Republicans think about the Democrats. You should understand this, because while my post may be "over the top" is does have validity, at least to me.

Furthermore, it was often stated during the last election by Repubs that the Demo party was the party of "Homosexuals and traitors", because homosexual "rights" and a movement to get out of Iraq seemed so prevalent in the Demo party.

In the not to distant past homosexuals were commonly tagged as "sodomites" to many of us the label still applies.

You cannot argue, I believe that the Demo Party is not a party of Socialism. I'm sure that you'd have to agree that the Demo Party wants, universal medical carre; paid for my the taxpayers. A re-distribution of wealth, paid for by those who have a job. College fees paid for my the tax payers, etc, etc.. Those are socialist causes.

As for Surrender; while it may not be universal among Demos, it's certainly not rare; and I'd venturre that a majority of them would vote to get out of Iraq now.

I agree that my last two parts of the Motto are a stretch, but I have been around a bunch of Libs they have always been bitter, mean spirited, and clench their teeth gritty. They were not happy, optimistic or carefree. Not in the least. So "saddness" does fit, at least a bit.

As for Seperation, it's not the best word to use, but I wanted another "S" word. I was trying to infur that the Demos are pitting groups of Americans against oneanother. This I believe is true. I believe that Demos foment class and racial discord to their advantage. They like to divide and conquer. Do you need examples? How many times have you heard Demos shout that they want to soak the rich, so that they can give the money to the poor? It's a constant lament.

I knew that my Motto post would stur the Libs up, but it was not without some tought that I posted it, becuase it's not wrong for the Libs to see how they are perceived by the right.

My post was not a "rant", at least to me. It was, rather, pithy and to the point.

Of course I generalized, motto's are always generalization, but you know what? If you lay this motto on a Republican and ask him for his reaction; he'll likely agree, becuase it IS our perception of the Democrat Party.

[Logjam]

Quote by: fedfem Well, I am not a liberal nor a democrat so can't speak for either but disagree with your rhetoric. Many of your assertations could be attached to many republicans as well. Jeff Gannon for one, Log Cabin Republicans, etc.... Conservatives are more into separatism than Liberals are--but both parties are big tents. I am not into generalizing. Your attack was not a thesis by any means.

My Motto was/is not an attack. It is, rather, a simple statement of how many Repubs view Democrats. Sure it's pithy and pointed, but put it to a gang of Republicans and you'll likely get a positive response.

I did not mean to insult anyone. I'm not that mean spirited.

My Motto is sort of like Carl Rove's statement lately wherein he said that Demos are soft on the War on Terror. It caused a fire storm on the left, but truthfully most Republicans agreed with Mr. Rove.

[belverron]

There's nothing inherently wrong with the concept of redistributing wealth, nonviolent solutions are always superior to war and I, of course, feel there is nothing wrong with including sodomy in the motto.

So, yeah, you're pretty close. If I were to pass it through a neocon filter it would come out looking like yours.

[fedfem]

Quote by: Logjam My Motto was/is not an attack. It is, rather, a simple statement of how many Repubs view Democrats. Sure it's pithy and pointed, but put it to a gang of Republicans and you'll likely get a positive response. I did not mean to insult anyone. I'm not that mean spirited. My Motto is sort of like Carl Rove's statement lately wherein he said that Demos are soft on the War on Terror. It caused a fire storm on the left, but truthfully most Republicans agreed with Mr. Rove.

I am sure Zell Miller(a democrat) agreed with Rove too, yet many Republicans disagreed. Extremists in both parties see the world in terms of black and white or good vs evil. I also don't see "gangs of Republicans" as representative of the party as a whole. It is expected that dittoheads in either party will nod when the opposition is attacked.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Logjam I love it! I need help eh? Why's that? Discuss my premise. Why shouldn't we tag the Demos with the Motto the party of Socialism, Sodomy and Surrender? After all, they love socialism, Sodomy doesn't exist to them, and many/most want to Surrender in Iraq.

Discuss your premise? Your premise, as you call it, is merely absurd.

Socialism is dead. Ironically the only fools who have failed to notice seem to be a handful of young socialists, who can be excused, and some braindead Republicans.

Sodomy? You either don't know what the word means or you are so careless with language as to make your rants unintelligible. (I'd place even odds on this one.) More Democrats support gay rights than Republicans. Is that what you are so ineptly trying to say?

Surrender - Regrettably more nonsense. It seems the conservatives are too stupid to know that if you did yourself into a hole, the best thing to do is not to dig faster. Unfortunately most Democratic politicians have supported the war including some who now call for more troops. (They think that we should not only should we dig the hole deeper but wider.) So if you are claiming that the Democrats are in any respects an anti-war party, then you clearly aren't paying attention. Surprise, surprise.

Sadness - Well your post is pretty sad if one believes that you actually meant to communicate anything meaningful.

So, "seek help" still seems like the best advice I could offer to any who posts such lame and idiotic nonsense. Of course I am neither a liberal nor a Democrat though I wouldn't be surprised if you called me both.

[Gorgo]

Quote by: RickSp Socialism is dead

Never been tried to any great extent, not dead, and the only socialists I know are over 50.

However, the Democratic Party has nothing to do with socialism. Or Democracy for that matter.