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Old Jun 13, 2005, 10:37 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Do you support "social freedom"?

Just wondering about your thoughts on social freedom.

Conservatism has often been associated with social restrictions, such as the banning of certain social functions deemed to be a bad influence on society (ie. prostitution, drugs, sex, revealing clothes, television).

What are your thoughts on this? Do you support the freedom of people to do what they like behind closed doors, or are you for the moral regulation of social norms?


Personally, I'm quite relaxed when it comes to social freedoms. I don't believe social freedoms have a strong impact on the country as a whole; many efficient authoritarian governments have even been known to allow more social freedoms than democracies.

After all, morality is a very subjective matter. What is questionable to me might be perfectly acceptable to you.


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Old Jun 13, 2005, 11:41 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Society must have rules, laws.. morals.

Some call these restrictions, I call many keeping the less desireable elements of life from ruining things.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Jun 13, 2005, 08:40 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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The only purpose of government is to protect your life and property from being destroyed from outwards. Government should play no role in regulating your life or what you do with it.
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Old Jun 13, 2005, 09:27 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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The only purpose of government is to protect your life and property from being destroyed from outwards. Government should play no role in regulating your life or what you do with it.

That's anarchy.

Sorry but Government does play a role, it's up to the PEOPLE (which is where our system has failed) to keep things straight,from going too far or not far enough.


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Old Jun 14, 2005, 04:42 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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But who should decide those "morality laws"? The government? A morality board composed of the oldest people in the country? The 51% majority?


Remember, I'm not talking about practical laws like murder, but moral issues such as drinking, gambling, wearing pink hats, etc.


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Old Jun 14, 2005, 05:51 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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The people ARE the government, when Americans remember that, then we will be A-OKAY again.

WE are the ones, when we let judges, or burecrats.. that's where things get hosed.


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Old Jun 14, 2005, 07:59 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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The people ARE the government, when Americans remember that, then we will be A-OKAY again.

WE are the ones, when we let judges, or burecrats.. that's where things get hosed.
One problem there is that the people can be wrong, quite easily.
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Old Jun 15, 2005, 02:24 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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The people CAN be wrong, but it's better to let them be wrong and figure it out then judges burecrats and special interest that have no one to answer too make those calls.


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Old Jun 15, 2005, 10:01 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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The people ARE the government, when Americans remember that, then we will be A-OKAY again.
People are easily influenced by the government.

Just think how easy it was to convince people the big bad Germans were responsible for World War 1. Or how easily we can convince people blacks are not human.

Similarly, since religion is a moral issue, what would be your reaction if 51% of the population voted for Christianity to be banned?

Anything can be judged immoral. And people can be convinced easily.


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Old Jul 7, 2005, 03:24 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Similarly, since religion is a moral issue, what would be your reaction if 51% of the population voted for Christianity to be banned?
Interesting question! I think from a legal perspective if the country did vote to ban christianity they have a perfect right to do so. But how would they be able to force someone from having faith in a personal savior? It's like "banning" school prayer, if I want to pray in class ( when testing I usually do :eek: ) how is anyone going to know unless I choose to do so verbaly? If one truly believes then nothing the government can do, including making such an act a capitial crime, will cause that person to stop practicing their faith.


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Old Aug 2, 2005, 06:15 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Personally, I'm quite relaxed when it comes to social freedoms. I don't believe social freedoms have a strong impact on the country as a whole; many efficient authoritarian governments have even been known to allow more social freedoms than democracies.
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What, so called "social freedoms" would you limit? :confused:
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Old Sep 21, 2005, 12:21 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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People are easily influenced by the government.

Or how easily we can convince people blacks are not human.
Just who the hell is trying to convince people that blacks are not human?
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