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Old Jun 8, 2005, 08:21 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Will the Darwinists here explain this?

Humans and dinosaurs co-existent:

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Old Jun 8, 2005, 09:14 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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No. I won't explain it.

Do the timeless legends of dragons somehow discredit modern evolutionary biology? Do they somehow prove creationism?

The answer to both questions is no.


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Old Jun 8, 2005, 09:17 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Jeafl, I don't want to say this but I think you've past the point of rational thinking about 2 minutes before you decided to post this thread.


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Old Jun 8, 2005, 09:59 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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He is just so hung up on Darwinist. It's as if he is still fighting the battle that was over 100 years ago. Very nutty indeed.

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Old Jun 8, 2005, 10:00 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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If the Egyptians were so accurate in their drawings, then there really must have been people with the heads of dogs, birds, and other animals back then. I guess they must have died out along with all the dinosaurs roaming the earth just a few thousand years ago.


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Old Jun 8, 2005, 10:58 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I don't see any reason for this thread to continue in a serious discussion atmosphere. However, rather than close it, I'll send it to the Miscellaneous forum.


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Old Jun 9, 2005, 08:58 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I have repeatedly referred to evolutionists as "Darwinists". But, the evolutionists here have repeatedly objected to this claiming that modern evolutionary biology is not based on Darwin. These evolutionists insist that they are not Darwinists.

But, by responding to this thread in which I asked "Will the Darwinists here explain this? , aren't these evolutionists admitting that they really are Darwinists? I did not ask for evolutinists to explain anything. I specifically asked for an explanation from Darwinists. So shouldn't any evolutionist who responded to this thread be identified as a Darwinist? If an evolutionists are not Darwinists, why would any evolutionist even bother to read this thread?
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:12 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I have repeatedly referred to evolutionists as "Darwinists". But, the evolutionists here have repeatedly objected to this claiming that modern evolutionary biology is not based on Darwin. These evolutionists insist that they are not Darwinists.
I have never said that. What I have said is that science has moved on from Darwin's theory. Just as science has moved on from Newton. I have repeated this many times now. I must conclude that you are being deliberatily inflammatory. Is it that you have no argument unless you attack a theory that is no longer the current scientific explanation? Perhaps historians may find your arguments against so called Darwinism of interest but really, all you are doing is tilting at windmills.

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But, by responding to this thread in which I asked "Will the Darwinists here explain this? , aren't these evolutionists admitting that they really are Darwinists? I did not ask for evolutinists to explain anything. I specifically asked for an explanation from Darwinists. So shouldn't any evolutionist who responded to this thread be identified as a Darwinist? If an evolutionists are not Darwinists, why would any evolutionist even bother to read this thread?
And as far as I can tell you have received no explanations from Darwinists because all of them have been dead now for at least fifty years.

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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:37 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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I have repeatedly referred to evolutionists as "Darwinists". But, the evolutionists here have repeatedly objected to this claiming that modern evolutionary biology is not based on Darwin. These evolutionists insist that they are not Darwinists.

But, by responding to this thread in which I asked "Will the Darwinists here explain this? , aren't these evolutionists admitting that they really are Darwinists? I did not ask for evolutinists to explain anything. I specifically asked for an explanation from Darwinists. So shouldn't any evolutionist who responded to this thread be identified as a Darwinist? If an evolutionists are not Darwinists, why would any evolutionist even bother to read this thread?
Do you know who Alfred Wallace is?

I would be bothered by the label but from the looks of what you've posted, it'll just be a complete waste of my time. I think I'd rather sit back and laugh.


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Old Jun 9, 2005, 08:58 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Most of these people who are supporting evolution simply dismiss religion as "magic." I believe this practice is inherently wrong, since people believe in legitimate ideals; Christianity, for instance, does indeed yield miracles to many of its followers. People who believe in evolution should not view anything that opposes their assumingly "rational" views as mythology dealing with dragons and such things. After all, evolution is only a theory and not a law; likewise, the principles of religions are basically not law from a scientific viewpoint, but are believed through faith. Conversely, other people think they are using their heads when they believe in evolution, something that has not even been proven absolutely true. I believe it is false.
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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:09 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Again, you show your ignorance. "Only a theory" is an misnomer; Theory is the greatest certainty you can attain in science for a model to explain a phenomenon in nature. The theory of evolution explains the fact of evolution. Evolution is a fact, so is gravity although we actually understand gravity to a lesser extent.


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Old Jun 9, 2005, 09:21 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Again, you show your ignorance. "Only a theory" is an misnomer; Theory is the greatest certainty you can attain in science for a model to explain a phenomenon in nature.
To say "the greatest certainty you can attain" is a reach. It would be more accurate to say that it is the best explanation to date. It is certainly possible that there are better explanations than ToE and if that is the case then ToE would not be "the greatest certainty" that one could attain.

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The theory of evolution explains the fact of evolution. Evolution is a fact, so is gravity although we actually understand gravity to a lesser extent.
Now that is interesting isn't it? That we could know more about life than we do about gravity. Gravity seems to be a whole lot simpler than life. One would have thought that it would have been the other way around. But as complicated as life appears to be we can pick it apart whereas there doesn't appear to be anything in gravity to pick apart.

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