Was there ever a man on the moon?

[die Nullte]

I dislike posts that say nothing more than "I agree." But, I agree, StoneWT, 100%. Most of the people I see selling the "Apollo Hoax" also push other conspiracies when they get a chance. However, I'm not going to argue other conspiracies here -- although I was sorely tempted by a passing remark someone made a few messages back. I'll stick with Apollo for now.

[Mr.Vicchio]

The only Consperiacy Theory I subscribe to is found in the song Stuart by the Dead Milkmen.

[Milton Bradley]

I've heard some compelling arguments against the landing I didn't see covered here.


1) The Rediation belt around the Earth. If anybody can explain why lead is needed to protect us from radiatoin on Earth, but noot in space. Are you saying Thinsulite (what NASA claims to have used) is still not available to the public, if it ever did exist?

2) How could air conditioning work in a vacume? Air conditioning requires heat to be transferred from one medium to another. (air to air, air to water, air to ?)

The story of the rotating space module works fine for the time when travelling to the Moon, but what about when they get there? They could not rotate the Lander when it was on the surface of the moon, so how did they cool it?


I think I would be willing to buy the whole story if I could those two points addressed to my saticfaction. Art Bell had open phone lines for any physisist that was willing to explain it to us dummies, but to date, no person has ever been able to explain air conditioning in space (or vacume).

Milton,

Click on the links provided in here. bad astronomy is one of the best.

Why should someone waste their time calling the Art Bell show and ruining the fun?

"no person has ever been able to explain air conditioning in space (or vacume)."

Faulty reasoning. 'No one may have called' does not mean 'no one knows'. However, these 'problems' have been covered many times over.

[dotcoma]

The same also goes for people that believe missiles or different types of aircraft other than the hijacked ones crashed into the WTC and the Pentagon.

Let me ask you something. The plane that hit the pentagon...where is it? What happened to it? Ever seen any pictures of it? Where is it RIGHT NOW. According to the FEDS, THAT is a matter of National Security. There are MULTIPLE cameras that would have caught the crash on film. WHERE ARE THOSE TAPES. Seriously. Write the FBI and see what they tell you...Write another concerning OKC and see how similiar your form letters will look.

Do the research yourself.

I'll send you a list of the best sites exposing the Pentagon/missile/alternate-vehicle hoax if you give me your word that you'll go through them.

[dotcoma]

I've done the researach. Send me what you've got if you like. A lot of the stuff out there is disinfo (in my opinion). I try to keep it simple...where is the plane? What did they do with it?

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by StoneWT, Do the research yourself. I'll send you a list of the best sites exposing the Pentagon/missile/alternate-vehicle hoax if you give me your word that you'll go through them.

Post them.

[Mr.Vicchio]

OMG I cannot believe people actually believe something other then that aircraft hit the Pentagon! How many eyewitnesses saw that thing impact? How much debris from the aircraft was pulle dout of the rubbel?

Wow thats more disturbing then knowing there are people out there convienced we didn't go to the moon.....

Vic,

The 'no plane' theory was put out to smear anything other than the official version as 'crazy.' There are so many valid areas needing research, but some people choose to focus on kook burger issues.

The creator of this crappy theory is a French radical. He's made some bucks off of his malarkey.

Clowns pushing this theory read only sites pushing this theory. Any info about what really happened is filtered through the kook sites. The sites typically misquote and/or take material out of context.
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roxdog,

Your statements reveal your lack of research:

"I've done the researach. Send me what you've got if you like. A lot of the stuff out there is disinfo (in my opinion). I try to keep it simple...where is the plane? What did they do with it?"

It took all of a couple of minutes to find the links exposing the 'no plane' hoax. As already stated, I'll send them to you if you'll give me your word that you'll go through them.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I know that some French oppurtunist, seeing as there is no actual neat video of the crash like in NYC, and the plane slammed the giant concrete block of the pentagon that it just obliteraited itself... that hey "I just make up some wild crazy story, and mkae some money!" And thats what he did...

I just figured most people would have figured out by now, that yes, 9/11 was really about 19 terrorist, 4 airplanes, 3 buildings and a field.

Anything else is... wow WWWWAAAAYYYY out there.

[dotcoma]

What a load of shit. "Most people would have figured out". You haven't "figured out" shit. You have been given an explaination and you have accepted it. End of story. The offical explanation of 9/11 doesn't hold a candle to the facts of the matter and SINCE THE MEDIA AND OUR "LEADERS" fail to address or even comment on the simplests of stink tests, any person with a brain can see that it is obvious the truth is being hidden. If you know anything about the alternative media's analysis of 9/11, no one is making up "wild stories", they are asking SIMPLE questions and not getting any answers. Go fish...

rox,

Please stop projecting your lack of research about this subject.

"You have been given an explaination and you have accepted it."

Your own words apply to yourself. You've read some crappy websites (maybe just stared at some crappy JPEG pictures on said crappy websites) and bought the story.

Start another topic if you wish, but please stop wasting our time in this topic.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Roxdog, I saw 2 airliners slam the WTC and drop them. The same WTC islamic terrorist tried to drop in 1993.

I heard the 911 calls from the different aircraft.

I know that 4 airliners full of passengers were destroyed. 4 Airliners.

For your theory to be correct, the US Government would have had to murder 4 airliners full of people in the act of murdering 3,000+ all to start a war that would lead to Iraq so that Haliburton could up its profits.

That takes a serious leap of faith. Or lack of faith depending on your veiwpoint. Your opinion lacks creidibilty on several fronts. The least of which is that if you are correct, then the US military and intelligence organizations would have had to pull this off, and in doing so people would know, and you must then take the next leap of faith that all those people involved would keep quiet.

What they murdered those that did this to keep them quiet??

The holes, the weak spots, the lack of evidence is glaring in light of the facts.

[dotcoma]

Roxdog, I saw 2 airliners slam the WTC and drop them. The same WTC islamic terrorist tried to drop in 1993.

And? Do you mean the attack on WTC 1993 where the FBI cooked the bombed and allowed it to happen? And tell me, why did those buildings fall? Why did building 7 fall? FEMA says it was due to fire. The landlord said it was controlled demolitioned. Which is it? If it was due to fire, how? How do steel structures collapse symmetrically? It's never happened before and BOOM, three times in one day.

I heard the 911 calls from the different aircraft.

And?

I know that 4 airliners full of passengers were destroyed. 4 Airliners.

There is only physical proof of three. This is a fact. Where is the plane that hit the Pentagon? Disintegrated? HA!

For your theory to be correct, the US Government would have had to murder 4 airliners full of people in the act of murdering 3,000+ all to start a war that would lead to Iraq so that Halliburton could up its profits.

I never said "the US government". Never mentioned Halliburton...

That takes a serious leap of faith. Or lack of faith depending on your viewpoint. Your opinion lacks credibility on several fronts. The least of which is that if you are correct, then the US military and intelligence organizations would have had to pull this off, and in doing so people would know, and you must then take the next leap of faith that all those people involved would keep quiet.

No, it just means you can't let go of your emotions or preconceived notions and look at the facts and at history.

The holes, the weak spots, the lack of evidence is glaring in light of the facts.

You have no clue what you are talking about. The holes are in the official story. Fighter jets had been called to divert planes 67 times in the year prior 9/11. All of the sudden, four AIRLINERS (allegedly) go off course for a time span of almost an hour and NORAD stands down. Why did NORAD stand down? Why doesn't the "independent commission" ask about NORAD? Hum...

[dotcoma]

Please stop projecting your lack of research about this subject.

What?

Your own words apply to yourself. You've read some crappy websites (maybe just stared at some crappy JPEG pictures on said crappy websites) and bought the story.

What are you talking about?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Roxdog, a 4th airliner of passengers then is missing. Where are they? Where is the plane? Hmm?

Where are these people, wher eis the plane? What are suggesting then happened to them?

You cannot answer that.

[Impenitent]

they were abducted in the same ufo that made the crop circles the day before

[dotcoma]

Originally posted by Mr.Vicchio, Roxdog, a 4th airliner of passengers then is missing. Where are they? Where is the plane? Hmm? Where are these people, wher eis the plane? What are suggesting then happened to them? You cannot answer that.

Of course I can't. Never alleged that I could. Good questions, though. I have been asking some of the same things. You're catching on. I do know that there are multiple possibilites, not just the one feed to me by the dictabox.

[dotcoma]

Originally posted by Impenitent, they were abducted in the same ufo that made the crop circles the day before

Wow, what an indication of your indoctrination!!!