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fedfem · May 29, 2005, 10:31 pm

Can you believe this crap? They are treating this couple like criminals. Guess it is a crime to have a close, fun relationship with your teen these days.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A mother faces criminal charges after she hired a stripper to dance at her 16-year-old son’s birthday party.

Anette Pharris, 34, has been indicted by a grand jury on charges of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and involving a minor in obscene acts. The boy’s father, the stripper and two others also face charges.

“I tried to do something special for my son,” Pharris said. “It didn’t harm him.”

more...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8022400/

Starboy · May 29, 2005, 10:42 pm

The Christians are running amok. But good. Give them plenty of rope.

Starboy

Imudman · May 30, 2005, 12:31 am

Stripping is base and demeaning, both to the stripper and the viewers. Subjecting a young man to that kind of stimulation is no different than if he were publicly groped by an adult woman. The parents definately showed poor judgment. Crime? Well, without knowing more it's hard to say. If he were only a year or two younger it might be considered child abuse...

Rave7pt0 · May 30, 2005, 03:13 am

Save it Starboy, this has nothing to do with your bias against religious people and everything to do with a person that broke an established law.

But that having been said... it's a stupid law.

tinybear · May 30, 2005, 03:46 am

Where do you draw the line? Would you feel any different if the boy were 12? A line has to be drawn at some place. Like it or not the law drew the line at 18 and the law has to be obeyed.

eggosphere · May 30, 2005, 04:09 am

Way to ruin the best 16th birthday party ever.

Laws were never about people anyway, just the collison of varibles. Thus the drawing of a line must apply for all.

**Pooeypants** · May 30, 2005, 06:14 am

Hey, is it true in some US states, the legal age for shagging is actually 18? 0_o

tinybear · May 30, 2005, 07:13 am

Why do you ask Pooey?

**Matt W** · May 30, 2005, 08:21 am

Because it seems unbelievable and shortsighted? Do you know the answer, tb?

Rave7pt0 · May 30, 2005, 10:17 am

I've never heard that before. It's legal for a minor to have sex with another minor within a certain age range, and even for an adult to have sex with a minor within a certain age range (like a 17 and 19 year old)

fedfem · May 30, 2005, 10:26 am

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I've never heard that before. It's legal for a minor to have sex with another minor within a certain age range, and even for an adult to have sex with a minor within a certain age range (like a 17 and 19 year old)

Well the kid didn't have sex with the stripper so age of consent is not the issue. In contrast, someone under 21 cannot drink alcohol in public.(restaurants) UNLESS a parent is present. Also, in some states an underage child can marry an adult or a contemporary with the parents consent.

As far as looking at boobs and such, parents can take any age of child to a rated R movie where a lot more is shown.

Starboy · May 30, 2005, 10:53 am

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Save it Starboy, this has nothing to do with your bias against religious people and everything to do with a person that broke an established law.

But that having been said... it's a stupid law.

That is my point. Christians are just too good at making stupid laws. I am waiting for the stink to stick.

Starboy

Starboy · May 30, 2005, 10:54 am

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Quote by: tinybear

Where do you draw the line? Would you feel any different if the boy were 12? A line has to be drawn at some place. Like it or not the law drew the line at 18 and the law has to be obeyed.

Sure, a newborn can suck on their mommas tit they just can't look at it.

Starboy

tinybear · May 30, 2005, 11:39 am

It's OK if it's Mom's boobs, right? I think there must be a law on that topic somewhere. Any lawyers here wish to comment?

**Matt W** · May 30, 2005, 11:40 am

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It's OK if it's Mom's boobs, right?

Not if your name's Oedipus!!!

Starboy · May 30, 2005, 11:40 am

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It's OK if it's Mom's boobs, right? I think there must be a law on that topic somewhere. Any lawyers here wish to comment?

So being a wet nurse is now outlawed? Since when?

Starboy

tinybear · May 30, 2005, 11:49 am

Hmm. Still no lawyers. Aren't there any lawyers on this board???

**Matt W** · May 30, 2005, 11:51 am

Isn't Waychel a Law student or something? Not sure about anyone else...

tinybear · May 30, 2005, 11:57 am

Hey, any idea why this board's got no lawyers as members?

fedfem · May 30, 2005, 12:02 pm

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Hey, any idea why this board's got no lawyers as members?

Perhaps because the majority are idiots who wouldn't recognize a real argument or legal premise?

Peter used to post here and he was a lawyer.

May 29, 2005, 10:31 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
fedfem Igneous Magma Location: Northeastern, USA Posts: 606	Mom indicted for hiring stripper for 16yo son Can you believe this crap? They are treating this couple like criminals. Guess it is a crime to have a close, fun relationship with your teen these days. NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A mother faces criminal charges after she hired a stripper to dance at her 16-year-old son’s birthday party. Anette Pharris, 34, has been indicted by a grand jury on charges of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and involving a minor in obscene acts. The boy’s father, the stripper and two others also face charges. “I tried to do something special for my son,” Pharris said. “It didn’t harm him.” more... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8022400/

May 30, 2005, 12:31 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Imudman Calcium Oxide Rocks! Location: Big Valley California Posts: 94	Stripping is base and demeaning, both to the stripper and the viewers. Subjecting a young man to that kind of stimulation is no different than if he were publicly groped by an adult woman. The parents definately showed poor judgment. Crime? Well, without knowing more it's hard to say. If he were only a year or two younger it might be considered child abuse... Last edited by Imudman; May 30, 2005 at 12:35 am. Reason: to complete a thought

May 30, 2005, 03:13 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Rave7pt0 Igneous Magma Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 373	Save it Starboy, this has nothing to do with your bias against religious people and everything to do with a person that broke an established law. But that having been said... it's a stupid law. Rave7pt0.net BlizzLink.com -- Blizzard Entertainment Tournaments and Clans

May 30, 2005, 03:46 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,003	Where do you draw the line? Would you feel any different if the boy were 12? A line has to be drawn at some place. Like it or not the law drew the line at 18 and the law has to be obeyed. Last edited by tinybear; May 30, 2005 at 04:11 am.

May 30, 2005, 04:09 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
eggosphere stare awhile Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia Posts: 26	Way to ruin the best 16th birthday party ever. Laws were never about people anyway, just the collison of varibles. Thus the drawing of a line must apply for all. The previous assortment of words brought to you by Eggosphere

May 29, 2005, 10:42 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Starboy BANNED: Repeated insults Posts: 4,828	The Christians are running amok. But good. Give them plenty of rope. Starboy

May 30, 2005, 06:14 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,546	Hey, is it true in some US states, the legal age for shagging is actually 18? 0_o War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

May 30, 2005, 07:13 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,003	Why do you ask Pooey?

May 30, 2005, 08:21 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	Because it seems unbelievable and shortsighted? Do you know the answer, tb? I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 30, 2005, 10:17 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Rave7pt0 Igneous Magma Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 373	I've never heard that before. It's legal for a minor to have sex with another minor within a certain age range, and even for an adult to have sex with a minor within a certain age range (like a 17 and 19 year old) Rave7pt0.net BlizzLink.com -- Blizzard Entertainment Tournaments and Clans

May 30, 2005, 11:39 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,003	It's OK if it's Mom's boobs, right? I think there must be a law on that topic somewhere. Any lawyers here wish to comment?

May 30, 2005, 11:49 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,003	Hmm. Still no lawyers. Aren't there any lawyers on this board???

May 30, 2005, 11:51 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,104	Isn't Waychel a Law student or something? Not sure about anyone else... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 30, 2005, 11:57 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,003	Hey, any idea why this board's got no lawyers as members?