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Old Apr 25, 2005, 02:11 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Under-Reported

I would like to have a thread on Volconvo that bears witness to the newsworthy items that the mainstream media either doesnt have time, or is too afraid to print, yet these stories are vital to our nations integrity. In this particular thread you can post articles that have substantial evidence of fact, yet the MSM ignored these stories for whatever reason.
Its my nature. I want to read those books that have been banned and I want to see the news that the government or the press syndications tries to hide from us. Or are they trying to shield us from the harsh realities? The press used to jump on breaking news, now all those reporters have been reassigned to the Peterson-Jackson-Pope circus. Non-News. Just last night a story broke that could be construed to mean there has been Hot-Gay Monkey sex in the White House. A FOIA document. This is the reason I want this thread. We have a Secret Service log. A Solid Fact. Yet somehow, perhaps because it doesnt involve a Blue Dress, the MSM hasnt checked in on it yet. Raw Story is the only rag to report on the findings. Editor and Publisher gives it lip service with 11 words.
What liberal Media?
What can we do to bring the press back? MSM is MIA. Does journalism have a sacred duty to inform and educate? There are numerous examples of the "free press" sidestepping the dirt, recently I have posted in threads that were promptly blackballed because somebody didnt like my source, it didnt matter that the items were factual, only that AP didnt cover the story.

I would like to have legitimate debate. We can stick our heads in the sand because Faux news didnt cover it or we can stand eye to eye with the monster, truth.
Whether the White House likes it or not.
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Old Apr 25, 2005, 02:32 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Correction:
I stated " Editor and Publisher gives it lip service with 11 words." That was a mistake I just finished reading the article:
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The Secret Service papers had been requested by two Democrats in Congress, Reps. John Conyers and Louise Slaughter. According to the blog Raw Story, they show that Guckert, who wrote for two pro-GOP Web sites under the pen name Jeff Gannon, made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure.

This included attending 155 press briefings and at least two presidential press conferences, all on a “day pass.” More surprising, according to the documents: Guckert got into the White House three dozen times when there were no scheduled briefings. And on at least 14 occasions, Raw Story reported, “Secret Service records show either the entry or exit time missing.”
Still its not AP or UI or Reuters so would that really be accepted as a viable source?
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Old Apr 25, 2005, 04:09 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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This is not a random selection. It is from Feb 25 to Oct 14
I feel if somebody is going to claim to be Moral Highgrounders, they should be held accountable. Gay bashers should be exposed if they are actually found to be Gay "Bangers"
How is a homo blow job in the whitehouse, less important than the Monica affair?
Of course we dont have a blue dress, yet. Only a fake reporter who is a real puto.

From Raw Story:
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*ANALYSIS UPDATED -- 12:24 A.M. Dates without briefings reduced to thirty.

2/25/03 11:46 - 1:25 (briefing 12:26-1:03)
2/26 9:56 - 2:17 (unusually long) (briefing 1:25-1:53)
2/27 11:49 - 1:34 (no briefing)
2/28 11:20 - 1:26 (briefing 12:35-1:10)

3/3/03 9:51 - 1:32 (unusually long) (briefing 12:21-1:00)
3/4 11:48 - 1:45 (briefing 12:46-1:20)
3/5 11:56 - 1:57 (briefing 12:21-1:00)
3/6 11:58 - 12:42 (no briefing)
3/6 9:11 pm exit - no entry (Bush press conference, 8 pm)
3/7 3:22 pm exit -- no entry (briefing 2:20-3:00)
3/10 12:47 - 3:11 (briefing 1:23-2:10)
3/11 12:25 - 1:47 (briefing at 12:38 - no end time given)
3/12 12:55 - 2:40 (briefing 1:20-1:59)
3/13 12:12 - 1:55 (briefing 12:40-1:19)
3/14 12:02 - 1:49 (briefing 12:35-1:06)
3/17 12:01 - 1:30 (no briefing)
3/18 12:09 - 1:31 (briefing 12:21-1:05)
3/19 9:38 - 3:27 (unusually long) (12:15-12:59) (Bush speech, 10 pm)
3/20 12:19 - 1:38 (briefing 12:32-1:15)
3/21 10:52 - 12:31 (briefing 2:31-3:12 -- doesn't match)
3/24 1:02 - 2:43 (briefing 1:00-1:44)
3/25 1:45 - 3:30 (briefing 2:30-3:15)
3/28 12:34 - 3:51 (unusually long) (briefing 12:35-1:15)

4/4/03 12:18 - 1:31 (12:20-12:59)
4/9 1:48 - 3:48 (2:32-3:20)
4/10 12:14 - 2:00 (12:20-1:03)
4/11 12:24 - 1:52 (12:15-12:45) (arrives late)
4/14 12:34 - 1:46 (12:30-1:15) (arrives late)
4/21 3:33 - 4:19 (no briefing)
4/22 11:36 - 1:37 (12:30-1:14)
4/23 12:16 - 2:26 (1:17-1:55)
4/25 11:21 - 1:25 (12:19-1:00)
4/28 3:01 - 4:40 (11:08-11:23 -- doesn't match)
4/29 11:25 - 1:10 (12:23-12:58)
4/30 11:37 - 3:14 (unusually long) (12:32-1:19)

5/6/03 11:27 - 12:56 (11:50-12:30)
5/7 11:53 - 1:29 (12:30-1:10)
5/8 1:09 - 7:10 (unusually long) (1:45-2:26)
5/9 9:49 - 11:38 (no briefing)
5/14 12:02 - 1:47 (12:35-1:15)
5/14 5:15 pm - 6:56 pm (second evening visit)
5/15 12:27 - 2:25 (1:08-1:47)
5/16 12:05 - 1:40 (12:35-1:19)
5/20 12:27 - 2:04 (12:55-1:34)
5/27 11:56 - 1:31 (12:23-1:05)
5/28 11:50 - 12:53 (12:05-12:44)
5/28 3:26 - 4:53 (second visit)
5/29 11:42 - 1:43 (12:20-1:00)

6/10/03 12:13 - 1:19 (12:33-1:12)
6/17 12:29 - 1:41 (12:32-1:11)
6/18 12:16 - 1:42 (12:50-1:34)
6/22 3:32 - 4:49 (no briefing)
6/23 1:41 - 2:21 (no briefing)
6/25 12:16 - 1:01 (12:30-12:55)
6/26 11:32 - 12:35 (11:45-12:24)

7/1/03 11:25 - 1:42 (12:50-1:26)
7/2 11:50 - 1:20 (12:35-1:12)
7/3 3:04 - 4:16 (Condi Rice briefing, 3:40-4:10)
7/14 11:33 - 1:32 (Ari's goodbye party) (12:03-12:56)
7/15 12:15 (no exit) (12:38-1:23)
7/16 12:26 - 2:05 (12:50-1:20)
7/17 4:43 - 6:13 (12:36-1:17 -- doesn't match)
7/22 12:23 - 1:53 (12:58-1:35)
7/23 12:21 - 2:23 (1:17-2:07)
7/25 2:08 - 3:30 (2:39-3:15)
7/27 3:08 - 5:24 (no briefing)
7/28 12:53 - 2:04 (briefing 10:12-10:23 -- doesn't match)
7/30 12:13 - 12:45 (no briefing) (Bush press conference earlier than that)

8/1/03 12:18 (no exit) (12:24-12:54)
8/1 12:39 - 1:20 (two sets of times if put together seem to match the briefing)

9/2/03 12:37 (A4 HC Entry Lane, no exit) (12:42-1:23)
9/3 12:10 - 1:18 (12:30-1:10)
9/10 12:17 - 1:32 (12:49-1:23)
9/16 12:23 - 1:59 (1:00-1:39)
9/17 12:12 - 1:55 (1:00-1:41)
9/22 1:54 - 3:06 (no briefing) (Bush meets with Iraqis, remarks end 4:35)
9/25 12:49 - 1:53 (12:48-1:35)
9/26 12:09 - 2:24 (12:36-1:15)
9/29 12:09 - 1:10 (12:18-1:03)

10/1/03 11:51 - 1:37 (12:44-1:30)
10/2 11:52 (no exit) (12:47-1:26)
10/6 12:58, 6:10 (no exit; checks in twice but doesn't check out)
10/7 12:46 - 2:03 (12:58-1:46)
10/8 12:10 - 1:27 (12:16-12:42)
10/14 12:22 (no exit) (12:40-1:14)
Isnt it curious?
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Old Apr 25, 2005, 05:50 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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You should read my latest reply: http://www.volconvo.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=16, and see how it is not preventing you from discussing such topics.
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 10:17 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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It kinda surprises me that there is no outrage, not a single comment about a GAY WHORE running around the White House. A White House, supposedly packed with moral highgrounders, who are blatantly anti-gay.


This is only 1/3 of a hat-trick that developed this past weekend, yet WAS NOT reported in American papers. Did your local news cover this next crime against all Americans? Condoleeza Rice, Secretary of State, was caught changing a report which tells a stark truth, We are losing the "War on Terrorism". In fact while the Neo-con death cult is spouting favorable news on the war on terrorism, the truth is 100% opposite. Terrorist acts have more than tripled in the last year from 2003 to 2004.
But thats no problem for this skanky broad. We will just leave the facts out of the report. Why do the people need to be bothered with the truth when our story (and we are sticking to it) should suffice.
Should she be reminded that no matter how great she thinks she is, she is still on OUR PAYROLL.
Here s the story from England, No fucking American reporters thought this was worth the ink. Or has American Media been completely hijacked?
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Rice changed terrorism report

Julian Borger
Saturday April 23, 2005
The Guardian

A state department report which showed an increase in terrorism incidents around the world in 2004 was altered to strip it of its pessimistic statistics, it emerged yesterday.
The country-by-country report, Patterns of Global Terrorism, has come out every year since 1986, accompanied by statistical tables.

This year's edition showed a big increase, from 172 significant terrorist attacks in 2003 to 655 in 2004.

Much of the increase took place in Iraq, contradicting recent Pentagon claims that the insurgency there is waning.

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Old Apr 26, 2005, 10:54 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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There's no outrage because even the MSM realizes that they got all the traction out of this that they could.

Chill pill, take two call us in the morning.


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Old Apr 26, 2005, 12:09 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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This thread was not started for one act of media conspiracy to squelch the news. The Topic was started for ALL Current Orwellian Newsspeak actions of our Brave New Media.
I protest moving this thread to the Butterface.
It proves more contempt of the truth
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 12:18 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Your topic has un-reliable sources, and you are the only one who responded to your own post over-and-over.

We have a legitimate forum for conspiracy posts, where you can reply to your own topic again-and-again before anyone contributes. In the main forums this is simply not considered a debate.
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 12:48 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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You mean there was an increase in terrorists attacks between 2003-2004, mainly in Iraq where we are at war with a group of terrorists?

Say it isn't so!


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Old Apr 26, 2005, 01:11 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Your topic has un-reliable sources
Secret Service records? You could have given it a little time.
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You mean there was an increase in terrorists attacks between 2003-2004, mainly in Iraq where we are at war with a group of terrorists?

Say it isn't so!
The point is, Rice removed the facts that are contrary to the Pentagon Fable
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 01:38 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Secret Service records? You could have given it a little time.
The point is, Rice removed the facts that are contrary to the Pentagon Fable
You mean she tried to prevent people like from playing the numbers game with this report?? Go figure..


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Old Apr 26, 2005, 02:21 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Dan, how are we to know these are real secret service records? What reputation does this site have? Does it have to live up to any audience? It becomes questionable when you observe some of the other features on the main site. It is like fox news gone the other way.

My point is that it is okay to have such a debate, but that it has a specific DEBATE forum for it-just as obvious conservative-conspiracies would also belong in a forum with less emphasis on reliable sources for debate, as well as topics that do not necessarily have no chance for counter argument other than "It's just a conspiracy".
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 03:01 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Who is going to decide what is a reasonable source or a reasonable story? Who is going to decide what is a "conspiracy theory?"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...e-Writer.html?
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 03:15 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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You mean there was an increase in terrorists attacks between 2003-2004, mainly in Iraq where we are at war with a group of terrorists?

Say it isn't so!
Ha, a "group of terrorists"....like Thomas Jefferson, huh?
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 05:40 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Dan, how are we to know these are real secret service records?
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democ...onltr21505.pdf
Thats the FOIA request by House Minority Leader John Conyers and Louise Slaughter

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Ha, a "group of terrorists"....like Thomas Jefferson, huh?
Thomas Jefferson wasn't fighting to place an entire country under the rule of tyrrany. But that minro point is missed by those who cannot, will not or are unable to accept that there is right and wrong, good and evil.

That statement almost made me sick, then I realized you might actually believe it, I pity you.


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Who is going to decide what is a reasonable source or a reasonable story? Who is going to decide what is a "conspiracy theory?"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...e-Writer.html?
Hopefully you are. The forum is not really meant to be strictly for moving topics. Hopefully you will be able to decifer what belongs in which forum.

Dan, I take that back then, that is a credible source. You should have linked that within your topic without me asking for future reference.
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 07:12 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Dan, I take that back then, that is a credible source. You should have linked that within your topic without me asking for future reference.
Well if it were properly reported, I would have. Thats the whole point of that thread. That should be covered by MSM. I would rather give a report from NYTimes, that used to have a motto: "All the news thats fit to print". I could not find one right away, sometimes these stories are revealed in layers. If we had some accountability from the press....

Why do we have to get the news from blogs and 2nd rate digital rags?
Answer: Big Brother has ineffect comandeered the press and all but labeled the Dept. of Propaganda
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 07:26 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Who is going to decide what is a reasonable source or a reasonable story? Who is going to decide what is a "conspiracy theory?"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nat...ve-Writer.html?
Thanks for posting that Gorgo, That didnt appear in my Google search.
I didnt realize that was a link to the story in question.
Think we will have another Starr Report investigation? lol
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Hopefully you are.
I'm the one that moved it to the Boiler Room? Sorry, my mistake. I guess I don't understand what this conversation is about.
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