Under-Reported

[dotcoma]

I voted yes because I did not know what you were getting at until I went to like the third page, and that's not too cool :rolleyes: Why not make it more clear what inspired you to post such a thing...jeez

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Under-Reported I would like to have a thread on Volconvo that bears witness to the newsworthy items that the mainstream media either doesnt have time, or is too afraid to print, yet these stories are vital to our nations integrity. In this particular thread you can post articles that have substantial evidence of fact, yet the MSM ignored these stories for whatever reason.

This is the 1st paragraph. Are you guys yankin me around?? WTF?

What is so damned hard about understanding That?

[gr8fuldaniel]

I would not offer this link if this thread were not in the Boiler Room.
This is pretty well written article: Conspiracy Planet

Bush White House Gay Sex Scandal Stars Jeff Gannon by URI DOWBENKO The Bush White House gay sex scandal heats up, as new revelations show that fake reporter and male prostitute Jeff Gannon "slept over" on numerous occasions at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Gannon had previously advertised his services on the internet as a male prostitute "top" at $1200 per weekend. White House overnight trysts were not uncommon, according to Secret Service logs of Jeff Gannon's White House entries and exits, requested by Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) and Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) using the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act). Since "Jeff Gannon" has given the term "media whore" a whole new definition, the question arises -- could "Jeff Gannon" be President George Bush's Lewinsky albeit in gay apparel? White House logs furnished by the Secret Service show that fake reporter Jeff Gannon (a.k.a James Guckert) stayed overnight at the White House on many occasions - even when press conferences or briefings were not scheduled. These records reveal that the White House is like a Gay Roach Motel -- they check in but they don't check out. More

and now for something completely different..........
Oh yeah, Did you see Bush kneel to the Pope, who gives American Baby Raping Priests Full Amnesty?

[PatrickHenry]

The standardized "debate" on volconvo is mostly crap. Conservatives and liberals go at it as if their co-conspirators don't have the same tyrannical agenda.

Religion? Who can prove shit? Why does it have its own forum?

Science? Anything debateable get tossed into the flames with the exception of what the management likes.

Society and Rights? What's the debate? It's just people's opinions.

Sometimes I realize I am just getting fed up with this site and the "debate" about squat...

Encroaching government tyranny is the only item worth debating...

[Sean]

Quote by: PatrickHenry The standardized "debate" on volconvo is mostly crap. Conservatives and liberals go at it as if their co-conspirators don't have the same tyrannical agenda.

Yes, all politicians are bent on world-domination and implementing a commonly-conceived dooms-day device of some sort. I respect your right to have an opinion in this way, but most people would disagree with you. They want some “standardized debate”. How else do you expect people to debate? If they cannot reference various reliable sources, concepts, etc how else do you expect them to participate? Also, if you hate this standardized debate concept so much, then why are you resisting implementation of a forum that does not enforce such “standardized” debate?

Religion? Who can prove shit? Why does it have its own forum?

"Prove shit" If anyone could prove anything would we have debate? All we can do is hope we have some common ground, a few sources to throw at each other, and use logic (or lack therof) for the rest.

Science? Anything debateable get tossed into the flames with the exception of what the management likes.

Give me examples of topics moved from the Science forum. Do you have enough examples to make such a statement?

Society and Rights? What's the debate? It's just people's opinions.

Once again, I did not realize that you could have debate without opinions. Def:“To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.”

Sometimes I realize I am just getting fed up with this site and the "debate" about squat...

Another opinion you are entitled to. I want my forum to be open to everyone. You have made it clear here that you do not feel topics other than the one’s you are interested in are worth being discussed. Sorry, but as someone who wants to encourage as many people as possible to participate, I find that to be the wrong attitude. I have given ground. I have given a forum where you are fully entitled to talk about anything you wish without concerning yourself with my “standards”. I just do not want every topic turned into an extension of such topics-just because you think they are otherwise not worth talking about.

Encroaching government tyranny is the only item worth debating...

…like I said…

[dilligras]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Dont tell me what is and isnt my business. I can use anything I want for an example. We didnt use to have bombers that civilians couldnt defend against either. BFD. That give us superiority as murderers. whoopie!

Don't tell ME what I can tell you isn't your business.......I"LL be the judge of that, thank you very much. (now we're getting somewhere)
You may indeed use any example you wish.........just as I may poiint out to you that you're full of crap, for using an example that gives clear and irrefutable evidence to the most casual observer that you must certainly have brown eyes.

Yeah, your redneck chickenhawk is afraid of horses. Some cowboy.

Gee, more unsupported hogwash? Not that it would surprise me, given that I have more than one relative who have been injured by horses...........didn't Superman break his neck riding a horse? Even worse, he was killed by a bedsore.

But lots of people are burdened with irrational fears, the most common of which is public speaking. I myself have a fear of being struck by lightning, and one not totally without merit, since it nearly happened once.

There is nothing that will cause one to wish for a change of clothing nearly as much as a strike in close proximity, in the pitch black of a blinding rainstorm, on a moonless night. The devout atheist will deny his godless existence, if only for a nanosecond.

I dont want to do any evil. I just think the clown needs to be brought down.

Not sure what "bring him down" looks like, but personally I would like to see all involved the coverup be criminally charged with aiding and abetting child molestation, as a deterrent to future misconduct, and I care not a twit for any title the offenders may hold, be it even the Queen of England.

You mess with the kiddos, and you have earned yourself some serious time in very serious place.

Actually, name calling is allowed in other areas too, you just cant insult other members of Volconvo.

That's rich! I ran out of fingers and toes, counting all the personal slams.

No matter.......I can give as good as I get most times, and as for the rest, well.............. nobody wins 'em all, do they?

[gr8fuldaniel]

Again, I submit that you are entering an arena in which you have little business. For example, do you know what vehicle the hummer replaced in the US Army's inventory? The jeep.......ever seen an armor-plated jeep? If so, perhaps you would be so kind as to link to a photo of same, because I grew up in the military and have never seen one.

This has no place in the context of anything I said. Before the jeep they used the Willys and before that the cavalry used horses.
We are getting sidetracked, but I will entertain your childishness for a while.
The point I was making was, HOW much courage it must take to go to war UNARMED. The Bush Corporation sent Americans to die in huge numbers, for lack of armor. They also ran out of bullets at one point. Big hurry to murder without a plan.
I was comparing the Cons in Volconvo afraid to argue a debate about how the Bush Admin is abusing the free press. Its OK though , I understand how hard it must be to have to defend such tyranny when it is so obvious.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel, Actually, name calling is allowed in other areas too, you just cant insult other members of Volconvo. Quote by: dilligras That's rich! I ran out of fingers and toes, counting all the personal slams. No matter.......I can give as good as I get most times, and as for the rest, well.............. nobody wins 'em all, do they?

I hope you arent talking about personal slams by me? They have been extremely rare by me and limited to the Flame Fest (recently changed to Boiler Room).
We forbid insults in all areas of Volconvo, except the Boiler Room. If you insult me in other areas of Volconvo, like you did here, there will be repercussions by the Moderation Team or Sean.

[gr8fuldaniel]

When I said this,

Quote by: Me Actually, name calling is allowed in other areas too, you just cant insult other members of Volconvo.

I meant that its OK to insult Public Figures. You are pretty new here, dill, I dont want you getting scolded

[dilligras]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel This has no place in the context of anything I said. Before the jeep they used the Willys and before that the cavalry used horses.

It has perfect place here......at the head of the table of the committee which was convened in order to discern the exact level of ignorance of those willing to parrot any crap whatsoever, so long as its use serves the purpose of the nefarious lefty agenda.

We are getting sidetracked, but I will entertain your childishness for a while.

Such largesse. No doubt, in no small part due to an overwhelming sense of "noblesse oblige".

The point I was making was, HOW much courage it must take to go to war UNARMED. The Bush Corporation sent Americans to die in huge numbers, for lack of armor. They also ran out of bullets at one point. Big hurry to murder without a plan.

I did not miss your point, but rather dismissed it as the garbage so richly deserving of disposal that it is.

As for your reference to "huge" numbers of Americans killed, again one can only assume that you lack the knowledge of military history that would permit rational comparison to any previous engagement

You might want to refer to the similar conquest of Berlin, a single city in WWII. Much smaller than the entire country of Iraq and yet resposible for the loss of over 400.000 Russians in its taking. Or how about Iwo Jima? Manila? Okinawa? Hells bells, all of the American deaths in all wars since 1865 have not yet equalled those lost in the "Civil" War. It seems that none are so efficient at killing Americans as their fellows.

Just keep repeating your mantra--based in ignorance--ad nauseum, and perhaps you may actually convince enough lefty-educated twits that your lies and spin are true, resulting in the eventual inclusion of even more such drivel in our children's history books.

I was comparing the Cons in Volconvo afraid to argue a debate about how the Bush Admin is abusing the free press.

I know....and using a distortion of fact as an example. Maybe the conservatives who shun you do so for other reasons than lack of courage; some of which may soon cause me to follow their example.

Like arguments based in nothing more substantial than innuendo of gay sex in the White House. Something that would have no doubt been praised by lefties in the Clinton years, but is now to be scorned and ridiculed by the very same people.......have you no sense of irony?

Its OK though , I understand how hard it must be to have to defend such tyranny when it is so obvious.

Not so hard as it is for you to tell the difference between tyranny (see Cuba) and the actions of a duly elected representative doing what the people who elected him want him to do. In fact, President Bush is a bit too left-wing in his positions on several issues, so be glad that I am not running things.

I hope you arent talking about personal slams by me? They have been extremely rare by me and limited to the Flame Fest (recently changed to Boiler Room).

Not at all.........but your posts are quite offensive enough, without insults.

We forbid insults in all areas of Volconvo, except the Boiler Room. If you insult me in other areas of Volconvo, like you did here, there will be repercussions by the Moderation Team or Sean.

Repercussions?

Will they take away my mouse?


"Bailiff!! The redneck just insulted Danny boy again!.............Whack his pee-pee!!"


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[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: dilligras so long as its use serves the purpose of the nefarious lefty agenda.

I am neither nefarious, nor a lefty. I voted left because I wanted the bloody pirates out of our White House. When I say "our" I mean all Americans. Not just lefties and not just peace loving people. But Mass Murderers like the wartime profiteers you adore, have to go . For the sake of world harmony and to restore some semblance of dignity to the word utterred around the world, AMERICA. If we bomb another oil rich country, I hope GWB leads the ground troops in person as an assurance to the troops that it is a cause worth dying for. The twins and his stepford wife in tow.

Quote by: dilligras As for your reference to "huge" numbers of Americans killed, again one can only assume that you lack the knowledge of military history that would permit rational comparison to any previous engagement

I dont really care to compare ANY war this impersonator declares, to a former war which may or may not have merit. Its really irrelevant to my point.

Quote by: dilligras Hells bells, all of the American deaths in all wars since 1865 have not yet equalled those lost in the "Civil" War. It seems that none are so efficient at killing Americans as their fellows.

Another reason I am against war. Especially pre-emptive strikes. If there were no pre-emptive strikes just think of all the money wasted on murder that could be used for education and a cure for cancer and the chump change saved from 1 FUCKING month in Iraq we could prolly irrigate a 3rd world country, and the rich could get richer and the poor could get richer. Instead of these bozos running things now that only want welfare for the rich. And to further these eugenics policies.

Quote by: dilligras Maybe the conservatives who shun you do so for other reasons than lack of courage; some of which may soon cause me to follow their example.

You cant hang up on me I'm hanging up on you....(click, bzzzz)

Quote by: dilligras Like arguments based in nothing more substantial than innuendo of gay sex in the White House. Something that would have no doubt been praised by lefties in the Clinton years, but is now to be scorned and ridiculed by the very same people.......have you no sense of irony?

Scorned and ridiculed? By who? Nobody fucking knows about it. Thats my whole POINT! Sheesh. Take another long draw off that Kool-Aid, redneck. I am starting to get pissed at Conyers and Raw Story for making the story an EXCLUSIVE. This belongs in public domain.

Quote by: dilligras duly elected representative

[OberonDOtherseid]

I just don't buy into the "Americans are the ones at fault, if they just had PEACE LOVING PEOPLE in the whitehouse the world would unite at the UN table and sing campfire love-ins".

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: OberonDOtherseid if they just had PEACE LOVING PEOPLE in the whitehouse the world would unite at the UN table and sing campfire love-ins

So, I guess we need to start as many wars as we can, against oil rich muslim countries? Pre-emptive strikes on innocent bystanders is MURDER.
Dont try to pretty it up by wrapping a flag around it.
No flag of any size can hide the shame of murdering children for oil.

[Lou Minotti]

I just don't buy into the "Americans are the ones at fault, if they just had PEACE LOVING PEOPLE in the whitehouse the world would unite at the UN table and sing campfire love-ins".

And who is the one selling this, may I ask?

[OberonDOtherseid]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel So, I guess we need to start as many wars as we can, against oil rich muslim countries? Pre-emptive strikes on innocent bystanders is MURDER. Dont try to pretty it up by wrapping a flag around it. No flag of any size can hide the shame of murdering children for oil.

Don't try to pretend these people don't kill, mame and slaughter their own. Your "flag" quips are not effective with me, daniel...or haven't you figured that out yet?

[dilligras]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel So, I guess we need to start as many wars as we can, against oil rich muslim countries? Pre-emptive strikes on innocent bystanders is MURDER. Dont try to pretty it up by wrapping a flag around it. No flag of any size can hide the shame of murdering children for oil.

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[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: OberonDOtherseid Don't try to pretend these people don't kill, mame and slaughter their own

So, this somehow justifies us killing even more of their own??

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: dilligras ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Whats the rope for?

[OberonDOtherseid]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel So, this somehow justifies us killing even more of their own??

Well, first you have to acknowlege what the other person is saying to you, Dan, not just invent your own desired version of what they're saying to make the conversation you're having with yourself seem constructive and well thought out.

Nothing 'justifies" killing, denying that one does while hammering about how the other does is YOU wearing rose colored glasses. I never said anything about justifying killing, just that you only see a problem with the US doing it. Even a war monger has it over a barrell with you, he/she can care less about any killing and still make that point over you.

Apparently the flag of bagdad waves proud on your pole, even if they kill their own, rape their women and desparage their own people.

[Lou Minotti]

I never said anything about justifying killing, just that you only see a problem with the US doing it.

Arab goat herders don't have the Pentagon and tactical nukes at their disposal, OberonDOtherseid...

[OberonDOtherseid]

Quote by: Lou Minotti Arab goat herders don't have the Pentagon and tactical nukes at their disposal, OberonDOtherseid...

Is that what I see at the UN table, arab goat herders? maybe that's the problem, Lou.