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Logjam · May 9, 2005, 02:41 pm

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Ah yes, God's chosen US, the benevolent Santa Claus of freedom...Vicchio are you really this naive? And you think others need a history lesson. :rolleyes:

So Vicchio, what was the Pentagon's motive when they installed Pinochet? Hussein? Noriega? Mao? :rolleyes:

Okay, Lou lets see how many nations have been freed by the US....

There's Germany, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Estonia, most of South America is free, France is free, and Great Britain was keep free.

Mao enslaveed a nation and murdered millions. Vietnam is now a slave state. Cuba also. N. Korea is in tyrany.

Of course, I've missed several nations that we've opened to freedom, but I'm writing from memory.

PatrickHenry · May 9, 2005, 03:32 pm

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Okay, Lou lets see how many nations have been freed by the US....

There's Germany, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Estonia, most of South America is free, France is free, and Great Britain was keep free.

Mao enslaveed a nation and murdered millions. Vietnam is now a slave state. Cuba also. N. Korea is in tyrany.

Of course, I've missed several nations that we've opened to freedom, but I'm writing from memory.

How about the nation of Hawaii, siezed and occupied for over 100 years by the benevolent(irony) United States?
Hawaii - US State or Independent Kingdom?
Hawaii--a Victim Of The Us

**Pooeypants** · May 9, 2005, 04:01 pm

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Okay, Lou lets see how many nations have been freed by the US....

There's Germany, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Estonia, most of South America is free, France is free, and Great Britain was keep free.

Mao enslaveed a nation and murdered millions. Vietnam is now a slave state. Cuba also. N. Korea is in tyrany.

Of course, I've missed several nations that we've opened to freedom, but I'm writing from memory.

You sound like as if the US acted alone in all those skirmishes and that their actions were purely interests of the population of foreigners.

Mr.Vicchio · May 9, 2005, 05:12 pm

You pooey act as if these changes would have happened without the US and thier only goal was gain for the sake of the USA only.

Lou Minotti · May 9, 2005, 05:47 pm

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Okay, Lou lets see how many nations have been freed by the US....

You mean "freed"...

Logjam · May 9, 2005, 07:51 pm

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How about the nation of Hawaii, siezed and occupied for over 100 years by the benevolent(irony) United States?
Hawaii - US State or Independent Kingdom?
Hawaii--a Victim Of The Us

Oh, I missed that. Did we enslave the Hawaiians? Did we torture and murder their leaders? I don't remember that. As I recall we treated their queen like a queen. We also did our best to irradicate cannibalism. Wasn't Cook eaten? I've read about his encounter with the natives, but I can't recall it in detail as I write.

PatrickHenry · May 9, 2005, 09:13 pm

As a matter of fact you don't know the situation in Hawaii at all, do you, Logjam? You are in your little lala world of "the US is the greatest, never did anything wrong", huh? You didn't even bother to skim the threads I provided... Queens rule over their nations. This one was treated to house arrest and threatened with prison. Cannibalism? You are so far off track it would be funny if you didn't represent a large contingent of ignorant, but smugly self-satisfied Americans.

Cook was killed for his warlike arrogance, like a lot of other Brits were in the American colonies in the late 1770s

OberonDOtherseid · May 9, 2005, 09:35 pm

People seem to need a anti-history revisionist conspiracy lesson, it seems.

**Pooeypants** · May 10, 2005, 09:25 am

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You pooey act as if these changes would have happened without the US and thier only goal was gain for the sake of the USA only.

Again, I stress, this world is NOT black and white. I take the grey stance, I'm neither with you or against you. Try to accept that.

May 9, 2005, 05:12 pm	#24 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335	You pooey act as if these changes would have happened without the US and thier only goal was gain for the sake of the USA only. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

May 9, 2005, 09:13 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,464	As a matter of fact you don't know the situation in Hawaii at all, do you, Logjam? You are in your little lala world of "the US is the greatest, never did anything wrong", huh? You didn't even bother to skim the threads I provided... Queens rule over their nations. This one was treated to house arrest and threatened with prison. Cannibalism? You are so far off track it would be funny if you didn't represent a large contingent of ignorant, but smugly self-satisfied Americans. Cook was killed for his warlike arrogance, like a lot of other Brits were in the American colonies in the late 1770s "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

May 9, 2005, 09:35 pm	#28 (permalink) (top)
OberonDOtherseid Logic Via Reality Posts: 653	People seem to need a anti-history revisionist conspiracy lesson, it seems. George Bush kicks ass and takes names in 2005!!