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Old Apr 21, 2005, 03:24 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Want to Know who Attacked ON 9/11/01?

Want to Know who Attacked ON 9/11/01? The feds sure dont, or else they would have done a little footwork.
The easy way to find out with a minimum of man power ie to follow this lead. Dont drop the ball, now. Treat 911 like a crime scene.

This isnt conspiracy theory. This is about investigation of an actual crime against Americans. Conspiracy is what happens when 2 or more gather to plot a crime. I am talking about an actual crime. This never was treated as an act of war, because supposed 19 Saudis, armed to the teeth with, um box cutters; working for a half dead diabetic in a cave. So its a mystery, we need to follow the money. Who was willing to bet millions on an immenent disaster? Who knew? And how much did they know.

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Who doesnt want to know who dunnit?
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 03:40 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Ooooops!! Forgot to post the most important evidence!!
Here you go:
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911 Fact Sheet
Echelon, created by the National Security Agency (NSA) is the worlds most sophisticated communications and intelligence tracking apparatus, employing the use of over 120 satellites. The Echelon surveillance network is operated by the U.S.,U.K., Canada, Australia,

and New Zealand and constantly monitors telephone, Internet, fax, e-mail databases together with all telexes carried over the world’s telecommunications networks, along with financial dealings: money transfers, airline destinations, data on demonstrations, and international conferences. The CIA uses Echelon with descendants of Promis software to track the Stock Exchange in “real time”

as potential warnings of terrorist attacks and other economic moves contrary to U.S. interests.


In the few days preceding 9/11/01, the Chicago Board Options Exchange showed an extraordinarily high rate of put options (a bet that the stock price of a given company will lose value) purchased for United Airlines, (4744) and American Airlines, (4516) as well as for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and Merril Lynch, both of which occupied 22 floors in the World Trade Center. This represents six times the number of usual put options. It is estimated that the profits from these put options exceeds 10 million dollars, some of which has not been claimed. U.S. officials have refused to release the records that may implicate the investors.

An ongoing investigation by the Security and Exchange Commission joined by a U.S. Secret Service probe shows purchases of exceptionally large numbers of five-year U.S. Treasury notes just prior to the attacks on 9/11/01: U.S. Treasury notes are among the best investments in the event of a crisis, especially one that hits the U.S. Among the transactions was a single 5 billion dollar trade!
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 05:14 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Want to know where Ben Laden is? Just go to the CIA"s personel records. You will find where the CIA sends his pay.
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 05:26 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I love joke threads!

seriously guys, give it up. This is silly to keep spoutting debunked lies and making claims that fail to stand up to the light of reality.

Bin Ladens not on the CIA Payroll, there was nothing more to the 9/11 attacks then Al-Quada pulling off a stunning attack by high jacking 4 aircraft.

People still believe we didn't land on the moon, but they are also still very wrong. Same thing here.


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Old Apr 21, 2005, 05:59 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I love joke threads!

seriously guys, give it up. This is silly to keep spoutting debunked lies and making claims that fail to stand up to the light of reality.

Bin Ladens not on the CIA Payroll, there was nothing more to the 9/11 attacks then Al-Quada pulling off a stunning attack by high jacking 4 aircraft.

People still believe we didn't land on the moon, but they are also still very wrong. Same thing here.
Mr. V, I've told you numerous times before.....the moon landing was shot in the garage of my house in Ireland....jaysus will you ever learn!


Also I'll ask Osama if he wants me to tell you where he is...he's my MSN buddy


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Old Apr 21, 2005, 06:39 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Mr. V, I've told you numerous times before.....the moon landing was shot in the garage of my house in Ireland....jaysus will you ever learn!


Also I'll ask Osama if he wants me to tell you where he is...he's my MSN buddy
Who is this mysterious poster? Would it be, oh no, COULD IT BE!!??? THE BUSH'S BAKED BEANS DOG??????


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Old Apr 21, 2005, 07:25 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Did anyone look at the sources for the 911 Fact Sheet that was posted?

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fromthewilderness.com - 911independentcommission.org - 911citizenswatch.org - septembereleventh.org - emperors-clothes.com
cooperativeresearch.org - nypress.com - psyopnews.com - ontario.indimedia.org - rense.com - whatreallyhappened.com thewebfairy.com - space4peace.org - wsws.org - salon.com - 911forthetruth.com - standdown.net - nypost.com - tomflocco.com guerrillanews.com - serendipity.net - loftninjas.org - letsroll911.org - bushbodycount.com - bartcop.com - prisonplanet.com physics911.com - thepowerhour.com - intelligence.senate.gov - newamericancentury.org - faa.gov - nci.org - fema.gov - house.gov
Look ma, this website said we blew up our own towers! It's on the internet, it must be true!


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Old Apr 21, 2005, 07:57 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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If not the CIA, then who? Why are they covering for them?

You 2 clowns think 911 was a big joke? Something we should just laugh off?

Only a traitor would destroy or hide evidence in a crime of this magnatude.

Go ahead and yuck it up, what color is YOUR flag?
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Old Apr 21, 2005, 08:05 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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No opinions, no judgments, no theories, no blame, no lies, just pure, verifiable facts.
Do you argue any of the facts? No, you sound like just a bunch of punk kids sympathysing with the enemy.
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 12:11 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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If not the CIA, then who? Why are they covering for them?

You 2 clowns think 911 was a big joke? Something we should just laugh off?

Only a traitor would destroy or hide evidence in a crime of this magnatude.

Go ahead and yuck it up, what color is YOUR flag?
Did you ever hear the actual tape of the hijackers on the planes and of the conversations the flight attendents had with people on the ground?


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 01:46 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Have you ever made a cellphone call from a jet? It doesnt work.
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 02:50 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Well, we have argued the facts ad nauseum. We were just having a little fun, lighten up a little.

And yes, cell phones DO work on airplanes. I know this for a fact.


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 03:36 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Mr. V, I'm not a big conspiracy person, but anyone can see there is more than meets the official eye in this.

Why did 4 widows of the tragedy had to FORCE hearings on it? Why were the most important questions about it never even asked?

How could Bin Laden pull off such a thing by himself and his crew? He HAD to have help from one government or another. At the very least, another country is involved that we don't want to spoil ties with.

If he had that kind of capability, knowing his stated desires, I think we'd have seen more from him.

NOTHING in politics is simple and clear-cut. And the ties of this government to the Saudi's and Bin Laden's family in particular has got to raise some questions in your mind unless you're a robot.


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 03:38 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Well, we have argued the facts ad nauseum. We were just having a little fun, lighten up a little.

And yes, cell phones DO work on airplanes. I know this for a fact.
I tried with both sprint and AT&T and I couldn't. I'm not saying it's not possible, maybe it depends on the carrier, but a very unofficial poll of people I knew said they could never either.

Anyone here have personal experience with their cell working on a plane?


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 04:36 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Go ahead and yuck it up, what color is YOUR flag?

merlin .....Stars and bars....just kidding but I do not trust our government at all! Having been tricked before and lied to by our government and seeing these same lies fed to our brave soldiers today just to die for a lie, no thanks!

These sad facts give me a healthy paranoia of our uncle. I might have to bend over for the IRS but I'm not going to hold the jar of Vaseline for Uncle Sam again.I feel that there is much more to 9-11. If we wanted Ben lardass we would have his head on a stake. Its so much bullshit and it stinks like bullshit.Time to lock and load, and pop a cold one.

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Old Apr 22, 2005, 07:30 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Mr. V, I'm not a big conspiracy person, but anyone can see there is more than meets the official eye in this.

Why did 4 widows of the tragedy had to FORCE hearings on it? Why were the most important questions about it never even asked?

How could Bin Laden pull off such a thing by himself and his crew? He HAD to have help from one government or another. At the very least, another country is involved that we don't want to spoil ties with.

If he had that kind of capability, knowing his stated desires, I think we'd have seen more from him.

NOTHING in politics is simple and clear-cut. And the ties of this government to the Saudi's and Bin Laden's family in particular has got to raise some questions in your mind unless you're a robot.
Osama BL did not mastermind this operation, he didn't take charge of the operation to crash the planes. He did finance that whole operation though.
Pre-crash Al Qaeda was pretty much dying, their efforts to create Islamic states in Africa had failed and the general public were sick of them. They retreated back to the place where they thought their efforts had defeated the Russia infidels - Afghanistan.


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 08:16 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Man, you'll jump in on the conspiracy theory that the CIA-acting in accordance with the secret intel alliance umbrella Echelon (an intel sharing agreement between the US/UK/Australia and New Zealand) conspired with investment bankers to take down the two towers and attack DC

BUT

If Saddam says he's gonna attack America's "Towers of Steel" and intel in 98 says that
-AQ and Iraq are working together
-AQ's planning to hijack planes and attack DC and NYC

Nah, that's a conspiracy too far fetched to believe.

I submit
Land of the free press

Oh, and the investment banking thing....the 911 Commission looked into it and found it to be baseless. Check their footnotes, or if you'd like I can cite the reference for you :)
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 08:18 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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why not

If the operational and strategic head of Al Queda says he's gonna attack the US because the US attacked Iraq....and then he walks into another room and sets 911 in motion....

Why not believe him-especially if the head of Iraq's version of the CIA is right there too?

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Old Apr 22, 2005, 08:43 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Some people, have a hard time accepting reality. That 19 men pulled this off for religion and terror goals is too hard to, it would seem, grasp. Much easier to believe plots that even the 007 franchise would reject, and have a nice easy target to point at, the EVIL Cia, Sevret Groups, and of course, Bush.


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Old Apr 22, 2005, 08:52 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Some people, have a hard time accepting reality. That 19 men pulled this off for religion and terror goals is too hard to, it would seem, grasp. Much easier to believe plots that even the 007 franchise would reject, and have a nice easy target to point at, the EVIL Cia, Sevret Groups, and of course, Bush.
Doesn't this seem a little disturbing to you how "easy" it was to pull off? The US is no stranger to terrorism, Al Qaeda has attacked in the past in smaller scale. There are many unanswered questions pertaining to this act of terrorism, but I'm sure you don't even want to know what they are.


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