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Old Jun 17, 2005, 08:03 am   #121 (permalink) (top)
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Can we get a "Do Not Resucitate" order for these old threads? This is really starting to border on necromancy...

If I considered any group of people smart enough to take over the whole world (while the fact that they are trying to do so is common knowledge) the Jews probably rank second or third. The US is obviously first, so its a three-way tie between the Jews, the Muslims, and China for number two.

The Jews probably don't offer honorary inclusion in the Jewish faith though, so you might want to start developing friendships with Jewish spinsters who might get you in if push comes to shove. If you don't like America, a Jewish takeover may even be preferable. On second thought, the only people who wouldn't mind so much if the Jews tookover are mostly Americans, everyone else should start to learn Chinese and/or purchase a prayer rug.
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 08:33 am   #122 (permalink) (top)
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Inquisitor, my father-in-law served in WWI and was at Buchenwald for the liberation. I have seen the pictures and talked with him and what little remains of his Army group to know that it did in fact happen. The Holocaust did happen, whatever science you have that sways you to believe it didn't is the propaganda that you speak of.

I am curious as to where your scientific facts come from?
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Look up information on historical revisionism. Propaganda by definition is something that is fed by mass media. Mass media presents the story of holocaust as jews want it.
You are misguided, I was relaying actual photos and discussions I personally had with the men who were actually there. Therefore no mass media was involved in my statement, the same can not be said for your collection of statements.

Perhaps it is you who has been misled by the media. I asked for your scientific facts to support your statements but as of yet you have not been able to produce one creditable source supporting your reasoning for Holocaust denial.

The Inquisition as in your namesake blended facts and fallacies in their effort to cleanse the world. Today thankfully people are smarter than to blindly follow such twisted bits of logic.


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 09:05 am   #123 (permalink) (top)
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Holocaust deniers are like human-induced-climate-change deniers: there is no possible set of facts that one can produce that they won't pick apart until they can find some smidgeon they can sneer at as fabrication or sophistry. They want to believe what they believe, and the more you demonstrate that it isn't so, the more they'll believe it.

In other words there's an emotional block preventing them from being amenable to open discussion.


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Old Jun 18, 2005, 12:37 pm   #124 (permalink) (top)
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*laughs* That is so ridiculous I have to chuckle. I'm not saying Russians are intellectually disabled in the slightest - I'm saying that in 1917 they were tired of an uncaring regime that didn't listen to them. Hence the success of the Revolution. I have a lot of respect for Russians - when they don't peddle such trash as this.
I have completly different opinion on causes of revolution. I have not a bit of hope that you would understand these reasons for you are most probably an ateist or a heretic at best.

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Answer the question. Rcne has first-hand accounts of the Holocaust. You have vague 'historical revisionism' to fall back on. Evidence, in your own time, please.
I have first hand accounts. Frankly my own grandfather spend three years in a concentration camp as a POW. He was always extremly sceptical about jewish fairytales. As a Russian proverb goes " Jew is like a beast, you believe him least".

For scientific information, a good place to start would be Jürgen Graf's book "Holocaust on the Test Stand".

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Perhaps it is you who has been misled by the media.
Really? And what media would that be? CNN or perhaps The New York times?

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The Inquisition as in your namesake blended facts and fallacies in their effort to cleanse the world.
Holy Inquisition you refer to was a product of catolicism ( latin heresy). Yet, this institution while it was active successfully prevented revolutions. 13 years after the last witch was burned on the stake, the French revolution happenned.

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Holocaust deniers are like human-induced-climate-change deniers: there is no possible set of facts that one can produce that they won't pick apart until they can find some smidgeon they can sneer at as fabrication or sophistry. They want to believe what they believe, and the more you demonstrate that it isn't so, the more they'll believe it.

In other words there's an emotional block preventing them from being amenable to open discussion.
Emotional block is in minds of people who watch Hollywood propaganda ( Shindler's list, The pianist etc. ).
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Old Jul 1, 2005, 12:26 pm   #125 (permalink) (top)
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Are Jews Trying To Rule The World?

There are more ways than invasion to try to rule the world. Previously both Germany and Japan tried the more conventional way and for mainly economic reasons. Within decades of ruin, they were leading economic powers and members of G8.

A unique way is to get a major power to 'persuade' the rest to give over part of some other country to a race that apparently no one else wanted. There is some dispute as to which Millennium they last ruled their own country. I can never understand why the major power didn't give them a slice of their own big near empty country. They had plenty that they got from their southern neighbor. Then they could have been friends or enemies together without concerning the rest of the world. They could have saved on the airfares of their spies. Yes, 'new state' spies on the other.

The unique thing that distinguishes both these powers is the quality of their 'diplomats'. Ones ambassador to the UK has difficulty with english, and was investigated in his own country for money laundering. Now he's accused of using influence to have his daughter released early from a Peruvian jail where she served time for cocaine smuggling for him/her. The major power is about the appoint its favorite diplomat to the UN. His name is Bully Bolton. He's noted for a new brand of diplomacy. The idea is that before he removes his shoe to hit the desk, the UN will agree to anything he wants. Moves are afoot to move the UN to a neutral country where he and his friends can be arrested with other war criminals. Ireland, the closest neutral country, has already declared that it has no interest in hosting any more international criminals.

Now I've mentioned the old fashioned invasion, although in the case of Iraq, its temporally back in fashion. The second is the unusual 'persuasion' invasion. The third is the subtle invasion. Now the major power doesn't do subtle, so how does it work. Well the secret is in who really controls the major power. It goes through this charade called 'diplomacy' to keep its citizens 'happish', partly as the citizens don't have to die invading. By controlling the purse string and the media in the 'major power' they effectively control the world.

They have no problem finding corrupt leaders in economically 'challenged' countries that have asset like oil, gas, ore etc. They use the IMF or the WB to over heat a lame economy. The solution is to give over your assets at knock down values. The corrupt leaders gets a bigger cut, the bankers get to exhort huge interest to ensure the 'challenger' never gets off its knees, and of course the major power gets assets at bargain basement values. This is outlined in "The CONFESSIONS Of A ECONOMIC HIT-MAN" by John Perkins. If the leader doesn't comply, he meets 'regime change'. Haiti was the last case.

So, Are Jews Trying To Rule The World? It already does, using a HOST.

Its better not to mention their names. They'll sent around their CIA or FBI or some other 3 letters to never heard of to disconnect your neck, no net. Remember the new subtle!
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Old Jul 1, 2005, 03:04 pm   #126 (permalink) (top)
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Righthand, your analysis, while humorous, is a trifle too close for comfort. It's like shaving with a new razor on a bumpy face! Very sanguinacious!


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Old Jul 1, 2005, 06:58 pm   #127 (permalink) (top)
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Righthand, your analysis, while humorous, is a trifle too close for comfort. It's like shaving with a new razor on a bumpy face! Very sanguinacious!
And you think I was joking! Expect the boys around to sort you out. As for the new razor, well you were not to know that I'd gone Taliban. God, now I gone and said. I'll be expecting the boys around too.

Which of your 3 stages do you reckon I'm at? "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." It's clear to me that its the third, isn't?

As for the "Very sanguinacious", well I can't even spell that. Is it sanguinaceous? On our national radio they were recounting the incident of the young American cousin on holiday in Ireland. She was not going to be outdone in the claim by the Irish kid, who claimed 2 languages, Irish and English. No, she had English and AMERICAN. "Out of the mouth of babes."
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Old Jul 1, 2005, 07:46 pm   #128 (permalink) (top)
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So, Are Jews Trying To Rule The World? It already does, using a HOST.

Its better not to mention their names. They'll sent around their CIA or FBI or some other 3 letters to never heard of to disconnect your neck, no net. Remember the new subtle!
The anti-semitism in this thread is sickening as we hear the same hundred year old provenly false conspiracy theories being advanced. Can it be closed?
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Old Jul 2, 2005, 12:45 am   #129 (permalink) (top)
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Can it be closed?
My,my! Testy aren't you?


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Old Jul 2, 2005, 03:38 am   #130 (permalink) (top)
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My,my! Testy aren't you?
Or perhaps he is Jewish and offended by such a topic?

This really has turned into a mess. Closed.


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