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Old Mar 3, 2004, 05:59 am   #81 (permalink) (top)
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Jews trying to rule the world?? Let's see, if John Kerry is put into the oval office, he'd be the first ever jew to hold that position. With jews sitting on boards of many powerful banks globally, and controlling the media, tell me, doesn't it look like they are trying to rule the world?? By the way, those who might try to argue that Kerry is not a jew, CNN just ran the story on his past where his uncle was killed during the holocaust, and Kerry's real last name is Kohn.
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Old Mar 3, 2004, 06:01 am   #82 (permalink) (top)
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and guess who created the mossad?? our very own cia. they've been on our payroll for years. that's been common knowledge for a long time.
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Old Mar 3, 2004, 08:59 pm   #83 (permalink) (top)
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Wow...and I thought you had to go to Yahoo Chat to find this level of lunacy.


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Old Mar 3, 2004, 10:07 pm   #84 (permalink) (top)
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lunacy is when one covers their eyes and ears and keep telling themselves that it's all just a bad dream, then they wake up in a psychic ward, so, how long ya been out? LOL
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Old Mar 4, 2004, 04:03 am   #85 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (cepjr61,)
Jews trying to rule the world?? Let's see, if John Kerry is put into the oval office, he'd be the first ever jew to hold that position. With jews sitting on boards of many powerful banks globally, and controlling the media, tell me, doesn't it look like they are trying to rule the world?? By the way, those who might try to argue that Kerry is not a jew, CNN just ran the story on his past where his uncle was killed during the holocaust, and Kerry's real last name is Kohn.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>



It wasn't only jews killed during the holocaust...his uncle could have been Catholic, a prostitute, polish, a variety of things not Aryan or simply someone hitler didn't like. And was it a blood uncle?


I don't care if he's jewish or not - unless it makes him more likely to lose to Bush. Then I'm just naturally curious.


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Old Mar 4, 2004, 04:03 am   #86 (permalink) (top)
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That's interesting what you said, though. I'd like to know more. Or was that a joke and I'm being gullible?

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Old Mar 4, 2004, 04:06 am   #87 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Write Winger,)
Wow...and I thought you had to go to Yahoo Chat to find this level of lunacy.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


Sorry - this is true. So were the Taliban. This is no secret or conspiracy theory. The US is constantly involved in secret warfare - bankrolling and providing weapons to groups opposing governments we oppose. All the time. All over the world.

The Muslim Brotherhood, father group to the Taliban and maybe this other? We supported them to try to overthrow the government in Syria. But they were massacred.


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Old Mar 5, 2004, 03:11 pm   #88 (permalink) (top)
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http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...=-1#Post1342993

why were 2 israelis armed with explosives entering the mexican legislature anyway?
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Old Mar 6, 2004, 04:22 pm   #89 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)
Jews are just very good at surviving.

Think about it: everyone beats on the Jews, and somehow they manage to prosper.


People who become rich or succeed are often discriminated against (especially if they are racially or culturally different). Mainly because of jealousy: "Why are the Jews so rich while I'm so poor, even though I'm part of the Master Race of America?".

It happens everywhere; riots happen all the time in Indonesia against wealthy Chinese people.

Governments have a tough time; on one hand they have to appease their people, on the other hand the Jews support a good deal of the economy. Spain expelled the Jews during the 1500s, and they went bankrupt as a result.
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everyone beats everyone

its just tat we are made aware of the jews plight

everyon forgets that catholics and slvas were also victimes during ww2
 
Old Mar 8, 2004, 05:58 am   #90 (permalink) (top)
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Jews are often taken for the ride in these conspiracies I think. I mean, let’s pick any one of them, and assume it is 100% true. There are usually both non-Jewish Americans or Europeans and then there are Jews. And how often do the non-Jewish people get blamed after the stuff goes down? Only within the last decade has any blame really been cast on America. But it probably isn't a Nationalist or Ethnic thing anyways. I think it is more often the snidely upper class that is to blame for most of these happening, regardless of race. The only color people with this kind of money see is green.

In terms of Israel, is it questionable, and completely disgusting. It is pathetic that the Palestinians and Arabs are falling for this shit either. I often don't give credit to so called Conspiracies in my ideologies, but I never doubt them (unless they are about aliens).

But spreading these rumors about doesn't do much good, and few people have made enough of an effort to unravel anything, which leads me to belief people really do enjoy being dominated over. So few people try and fix the system.

Again, I don’t think it is a Jewish thing, but I don’t doubt for a second Jews don’t have their part in evil things. Which is a shame.
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Old Mar 8, 2004, 01:26 pm   #91 (permalink) (top)
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Jews taken for a ride??? LOL, Kerry isn't even president yet and he's already telling Israel that policy with them won't change. So, with that said, tell me again at how the jews don't have anything to do with anything? LOL See the below headline>>>>>>>>>>

Senator John Kerry told dozens of Jewish leaders in New York on Sunday that he would continue the Bush administration policy of vetoing any United Nations Security Council resolutions seen as one-sided against Israel.
Posted Mar 7, 2004 07:15 AM PST
It seems almost rather pointless to vote this November. Sharon has already won the election.
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Old Mar 8, 2004, 01:31 pm   #92 (permalink) (top)
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The new CIA/Diebold touchscreen systems make getting reelected so much easier for some reason.
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Old May 20, 2004, 12:33 am   #93 (permalink) (top)
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Not anti Semitic but anti Zionist I am. I believe the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was the plan of The House of The Rothschilds. Do they own the world, you bet, money creates actions.
Plenty of Jews are anti-Zionist, so you and I are in good company.

Here's an interesting story by an ex-zionist Iraq-born Jew.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/articles...s/iraqijews.htm
He started out as a zealous Zionist , emigrated to Israel in the early years, and was repelled by his treatment there.
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I was disillusioned at what I found in the Promised Land, disillusioned personally, disillusioned at the institutionalized racism, disillusioned at what I was beginning to learn about Zionism's cruelties. The principal interest Israel had in Jews from Islamic countries was as a supply of cheap labor, especially for the farm work that was beneath the urbanized Eastern European Jews. Ben Gurion needed the "Oriental" Jews to farm the thousands of acres of land left by Palestinians who were driven out by Israeli forces in 1948.
It's a well written story, detailing the methods Zionists used to drive out the palestinian families from their farms and villages. Also some insightful stuff, first person accounts of Iraqi Jews in the mid-twentieth century in Baghdad.
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Who was behind the rioting in the Jewish quarter?
Yosef Meir, one of the most prominent activists in the Zionist underground movement in Iraq, known then as Yehoshafat, claims it was the British. Meir, who now works for the Israeli Defense Ministry, argues that, in order to make it appear that the regent was returning as the savior who would reestablish law and order, the British stirred up the riots against the most vulnerable and visible segment in the city, the Jews. And, not surprisingly, the riots ended as soon as the regent's loyal soldiers entered the capital.

My own investigations as a journalist lead me to believe Meir is correct. Furthermore, I think his claims should be seen as based on documents in the archives of the Israeli Defense Ministry, the agency that published his book. Yet, even before his book came out, I had independent confirmation from a man I met in Iran in the late Forties.

His name was Michael Timosian, an Iraqi Armenian. When I met him he was working as a male nurse at the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in Abadan in the south of Iran. On June 2, 1941, however, he was working at the Baghdad hospital where many of the riot victims were brought. Most of these victims were Jews.

Timosian said he was particularly interested in two patients whose conduct did not follow local custom. One had been hit by a bullet in his shoulder, the other by a bullet in his right knee. After the doctor removed the bullets, the staff tried to change their blood-soaked cloths. But the two men fought off their efforts, pretending to be speechless, although tests showed they could hear. To pacify them, the doctor injected them with anesthetics and, as they were sleeping, Timosian changed their cloths. He discovered that one of them had around his neck an identification tag of the type used by British troops, while the other had tattoos with Indian script on his right arm along with the familiar sword of the Gurkha.

The next day when Timosian showed up for work, he was told that a British officer, his sergeant and two Indian Gurkha soldiers had come to the hospital early that morning. Staff members overheard the Gurkha soldiers talking with the wounded patients, who were not as dumb as they had pretended. The patients saluted the visitors, covered themselves with sheets and, without signing the required release forms, left the hospital with their visitors.

Today there is no doubt in my mind that the anti-Jewish riots of 1941 were orchestrated by the British for geopolitical ends. David Kimche is certainly a man who was in a position to know the truth, and he has spoken publicly about British culpability. Kimche had been with British Intelligence during WW II and with the Mossad after the war. Later he became Director General of Israel's Foreign Ministry, the position he held in 1982 when he addressed a forum at the British Institute for International Affairs in London.

In responding to hostile questions about Israel's invasion of Lebanon and the refugee camp massacres in Beirut, Kimche went on the attack, reminding the audience that there was scant concern in the British Foreign Office when British Gurkha units participated in the murder of 500 Jews in the streets of Baghdad in 1941.
The Zionist State is the enemy of peace, and many faithful Jews know the truth. The savage violence and lies of the original Zionists continues in the policies of Sharon:
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From the start they knew that in order to establish a Jewish state they had to expel the indigenous Palestinian population to the neighboring Islamic states and import Jews from these same states.

* Theodor Herzl, the architect of Zionism, thought it could be done by social engineering. In his diary entry for 12 June 1885, he wrote that Zionist settlers would have to "spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country."

* Vladimir Jabotinsky, Prime Minister Netanyahu's ideological progenitor, frankly admitted that such a transfer of populations could only be brought about by force.

* David Ben Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, told a Zionist Conference in 1937 that any proposed Jewish state would have to "transfer Arab populations out of the area, if possible of their own free will, if not by coercion." After 750,000 Palestinians were uprooted and their lands confiscated in 1948-49, Ben Gurion had to look to the Islamic countries for Jews who could fill the resultant cheap labor market. "Emissaries" were smuggled into these countries to "convince" Jews to leave either by trickery or fear.

In the case of Iraq, both methods were used: uneducated Jews were told of a Messianic Israel in which the blind see, the lame walk, and onions grow as big as melons; educated Jews had bombs thrown at them.
Injustice for Palestinians is injustice for Sephardic Jews, too. Jews don't seek world rulership, but Zionists do.
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Alexis de Tocqueville once observed that it is easier for the world to accept a simple lie than a complex truth. Certainly it has been easier for the world to accept the Zionist lie that Jews were evicted from Muslim lands because of anti-Semitism, and that Israelis, never the Arabs, were the pursuers of peace. The truth is far more discerning: bigger players on the world stage were pulling the strings.

These players, I believe, should be held accountable for their crimes, particularly when they willfully terrorized, dispossessed and killed innocent people on the altar of some ideological imperative.

I believe, too, that the descendants of these leaders have a moral responsibility to compensate the victims and their descendants, and to do so not just with reparations, but by setting the historical record straight.

That is why I established a panel of inquiry in Israel to seek reparations for Iraqi Jews who had been forced to leave behind their property and possessions in Iraq. That is why I joined the Black Panthers in confronting the Israeli government with the grievances of the Jews in Israel who came from Islamic lands. And that is why I have written my book and this article: to set the historical record straight.

We Jews from Islamic lands did not leave our ancestral homes because of any natural enmity between Jews and Muslims. And we Arabs-I say Arab because that is the language my wife and I still speak at home-we Arabs on numerous occasions have sought peace with the State of the Jews. And finally, as a U.S. citizen and taxpayer, let me say that we Americans need to stop supporting racial discrimination in Israel and the cruel expropriation of lands in the West Bank, Gaza, South Lebanon and the Golan Heights.
By the way, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion have been wrongly attributed to the Jews. It is actually an Illuminati document, but an accurate prophecy/blueprint for the NWO we see being played out before our wondering eyes.


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Old May 20, 2004, 01:03 pm   #94 (permalink) (top)
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You what??? :confused: :rolleyes:

Seriously Zionism is as bad as facism, the Jewish people have as much right to a homeland as the next ethnic group, but what is going on at the moment is well nothing more than an outdated policy tried by a nutcase with a bad moustache......"Lebensraum"


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Old Jun 10, 2005, 01:55 am   #95 (permalink) (top)
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I am ashamed for even responding to this rubbish. Stop using the "I hate Jews" and "Anti-Semite" ad hominem trick to put people on the defensive. If Jews control key components of the goyim infrastructure, then the goyim have every right to be concerned. How would you feel of blacks owned all of the media in Israel or controlled the money supply all while espousing a nationalist (i.e., Zionist) doctrine?

Does this mean that the poor Jew living on my block is a co-conspirator in the elusive Jewish Conspiracy? Certainly not. It does mean, however, that there are extremely rich elite Jews who advocate a Zionist (i.e., Jewish Supremist) doctrine and they use their influence to further this policy on a worldwide scale.

I am so tired of hearing Jews act like it is absurd to be concerned when history has shown from time immemorial the nature and established track record of the Yadahim. History speaks for itself. There is a reason why Jews are the only people on the face of the planet with no homeland and why all nations have hated them throughout all ages. There is a reason why many great and learned men such as William Shakespeare, Benjamin Franklin, Henry Ford, etc, have reviled the Jews. Figure it out for yourselves.
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Old Jun 10, 2005, 01:56 am   #96 (permalink) (top)
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P.s. In the Bible and Torah, it tells of how the Tribe of Israel’s patriarch Abraham came out of the land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, i.e., modern Iraq. They then went on a killing spree and basically murdered every living thing in the modern Palestine area because their God, YHWH, had allegedly “given” them the land. Their religious books – the Torah and Talmud – are replete with racially supreme doctrines. Thus, traced back to their original origins, Jews are merely ancient Iraqis who began a racist ideology under the guise of a religion and then began killing all the other tribes in the region, perhaps the first land grab known to modern man. Thus, ANY claim to Palestine by Zionist Jews fails because their own literature admits that they were originally from between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. At best, they may have some claim to Iraq, but never have they had a valid claim to Palestinian lands.
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Old Jun 10, 2005, 04:13 am   #97 (permalink) (top)
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Zionism is simply Jewish nationalism, no better or worse than any other nationalism and not a "supremacist doctrine" any more than any other nationalism. America, Germany, Japan, etc. have done terrible things worse than Israel in the name of their nationalisms, but you never hear people decrying their nationalisms as inheriently racist like you hear about Jewish nationalism.

Henry Ford was sued several times by Jewish groups in the US for libel because of his anti-semetic writings and lost several different cases. His writings and the completely fabricated and forged Protocols are poisonous, hatre-inspiring lies. Hitler awarded Ford the Iron Cross and Stalin admired him. Prejudices ran deep among socities of the past, many "great men" owned slaves, had abborhent atittudes towards women, etc. Every position should be taken on its own merits and not who may have or who may have subscribed to them in the past.

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I am ashamed for even responding to this rubbish. Stop using the "I hate Jews" and "Anti-Semite" ad hominem trick to put people on the defensive. If Jews control key components of the goyim infrastructure, then the goyim have every right to be concerned. How would you feel of blacks owned all of the media in Israel or controlled the money supply all while espousing a nationalist (i.e., Zionist) doctrine?

Does this mean that the poor Jew living on my block is a co-conspirator in the elusive Jewish Conspiracy? Certainly not. It does mean, however, that there are extremely rich elite Jews who advocate a Zionist (i.e., Jewish Supremist) doctrine and they use their influence to further this policy on a worldwide scale.

I am so tired of hearing Jews act like it is absurd to be concerned when history has shown from time immemorial the nature and established track record of the Yadahim. History speaks for itself. There is a reason why Jews are the only people on the face of the planet with no homeland and why all nations have hated them throughout all ages. There is a reason why many great and learned men such as William Shakespeare, Benjamin Franklin, Henry Ford, etc, have reviled the Jews. Figure it out for yourselves.
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Old Jun 12, 2005, 12:31 pm   #98 (permalink) (top)
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As much as I hate to admit, it seems the Jews have a strong grip on various institutions and are pushing their views onto the public.


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Old Jun 12, 2005, 10:27 pm   #99 (permalink) (top)
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I don't actually think you are nuts. Just disturbed.

First you have to consider the number of Jews in the world. Then compare that to the rest of us. How could such a small number, take over unless we allowed it to happen? That may be where the real problem is.

There is one thing though, that is most important to remember, when one starts out on this Jew thing. They are masters of money. They either have it or know how to get it and how to make it work to their advantage.

So, if money rules, or at least buys power, the Jews have a step ahead of the rest of us.
Not nuts just a racist bigot.
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Old Jun 13, 2005, 01:24 am   #100 (permalink) (top)
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You've got to be kidding. Hummm.... that does remind of a person who walked by me the other day wearing a tiny hat on the back of his head and he said, "Soon we will rule the world." I was shocked and told the man that he was a lunatic. I would like to say the same thing about a person in particular but this site won't permit it. :rolleyes:
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