Are Jews Trying To Rule The World?

[jose]

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres.  Peres  warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us.  "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee:  10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
as to your absurd statement "I hate jews"im sorry i cant agree with you on that as i have many fine jewish friends so please find some new ad hominems and come back

[Mathieu]

Humm, well as much as I know, any politician who want to get in the white house must support at least partially Isreal in order to get the vote to be elected. In this sense, I think there is nothing too conspirationist in hearing Sharon say those things, as he is not less brilliant than anyone else , and he knows how politics work in USA.

[cepjr61]

Jews trying to run the world? Sure they are, by either proxy or outright force. They have become soo desperate that they are now trying to have the usa gov't arrest Mel Gibson for terrorism via the Patriot Act. Here's the proof below, oops, wait a second, it's just another conspiracy theory isn't it? Dang, I almost forgot! This is way too funny, jews suing because they say it's terrorism, yet it was their ancestors who called for the very death of the king of the jews. So, does this make the jews anti-semitic against themselves?
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Jews ask "Patriot Act" to arrest Mel Gibson
Wed Feb 25 15:11:41 2004
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Subject: Jews ask "Patriot Act" to arrest Mel Gibson
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:27:04 EST
From: mlrn3@aol.com

Just when I think their chutzpah has reached a peak, they always come out with more. The "chosen" will never be satisfied until they have the same "worship the Jew" laws established in Germany, Canada, and other enslaved nations. Melanie

> Jewish group says "The Passion" is an act of terrorism
>
> WASHINGTON D.C. (Capitol Press) - A prominent Jewish organization
> has denounced Mel Gibson's "The Passion" as an act of terrorism and
> can prove the movie violates the Patriot Act.
>
> Jews Against Anti-Semitism, a recently formed Washington D.C. based
> defense league for Jews, has issued a press release pointing out
> sections of U.S. law which are being violated by Mel Gibson's film.
>
> "Clearly there are laws on the books which have outlawed the inciting
> of riots or acts civil disobedience which endanger human life. Mel
> Gibson's movie will incite violence against Jews and put the lives of
> million of Jews in danger" said Rabbi David Feldman, a spokes person
> for Jews Against Anti-Semitism.
>
> According to Rabbi Feldman "Under Section 802 of the 2001 USA Patriot
> Act, any crime which endangers human life is defined as an act of
> domestic terrorism. Mel Gibson's incitement of anti-Semitism is a
> civil disobedience crime which endangers human life and under the
> Patriot Act "The Passion" is an act of domestic terrorism"
>
> The USA Patriot Act was signed into law by President George W. Bush
> shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks in New York and
> Washington D.C. in order to protect Americans from terrorism.
>
> "We are hereby calling on Attorney General John Ashcroft, the
> Department of Justice, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge and the
> Department of Homeland Security to arrest Mel Gibson as a terrorist,
> confiscate all prints of "the Passion", confiscate all materials
> related to the film as "terrorist paraphernalia" and shut down every
> terrorist hate site on the internet supporting the film" said Rabbi
> Feldman.
>
> The Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security have
> yet to respond to the inquiries made by Capitol Press regarding this
> story.
>
> [END]


Never interviewed Christian leaders about what they think
about Jewish produced, explicitly anti-Christian films, and yet there
are surely 10,000 motion picture that attack Christians.

Enshrining Jewish bigotry is a poor substitute to actually reporting the
news.

Mel Gibson's 'Passion'
Info on Mel Gibson's new Christian
movie 'Passion'.
http://www.PassionMovieInfo.com
====================

The Jewish Week
... Mel Gibson’s upcoming film “The Passion of Christ ... lawyer Sigmund Livingston to
protect Jews from anti ... general also defended the Patriot Act, which expands ...
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscont...php3?artid=8692

[Wayne Coady]

I really do not think we should start picking on our fellow human, we really should be looking at how we better manage our governments so all of us can survive.
The Passion of Christ is only a movie and if it has the potential to destroy lives, then maybe we would all be better off not to view it.

[ceg]

"On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that..." Jose

I.A.P. = Islamic Association for Palestine...hmmm, alot of credibility there.

If such a statement were made in a government session, or on radio, surely an official transcript is available?

[ceg]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Wayne Coady,)
I really do not think we should start picking on our fellow human, we really should be looking at how we better manage our governments so all of us can survive.
The Passion of Christ is only a movie and if it has the potential to destroy lives, then maybe we would all be better off not to view it.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Well said Wayne. What better way for Christians to honor Jesus than to love their fellow human beings.

Regarding the effects of the movie, we are already seeing them, some good, some not. Dialogue between well meaning people is good.

cepjr -

Although I haven't read the statements you posted at their source,
I tend to agree with you to a point. This is a first ammendment issue. Mel has the right to make a movie and express his beliefs just as Jews (as well as many Christians) have the right to express their legitimate concerns about the movie.

A sign outside a Church (shown on CNN tonight):
--------------------------
Learn the Loving way

JEWS KILLED JESUS

The Passion
--------------------------

Is this what Christianity is about?

Only to the person who created that sign and to those who believe this way.

Are all Jews trying unfairly to persecute Mel Gibson?

Let's be perfectly honest, those Catholics who were raised during pre-vatican II were taught in many Churches that all Jews bear collective blame for the death of Jesus, and that Jews are evil.

A bit of self-introspection (a very Jesus-like trait) would go a long way toward fostering a more Jesus-like dialogue.

While you are watching the movie and grieving over the brutality of Jesus' crucifixion, let's not forget that hundreds of thousands of Jews were crucified by the Pontious Pilate and the Romans. They suffered equally. Let's also not forget that Jesus was a Jew and that his followers were Jews.

The historical accuracy of Mel's depiction is much in doubt. Mel has a pentience for, and fascination with violence. A review of his family upbringing may shed some light on this aspect. Mel himself has talked about his long trials with drug and alcohol abuse. Put the two together (an upbringing by a bigot of a father, and a long history of addictions) and one may be better prepared to get what little good there is out of the movie.

My understanding (having not seen the movie) is that it is basically two hours of gratuitous gore with scant portrayal of Jesus's spiritual message.

I found these two statements more in line with what many people feel:

"As we have said many times, our disagreement is not with Christian churches, nor with the Gospels. Our disagreement is with Mel Gibson whose own personal embellishments of the Gospels stereotype and denigrate the masses of Jews who were not followers of Jesus, while at the same time whitewash Pontius Pilate, who crucified a quarter of a million Jews and who was recalled to Rome by Caesar five years later for his brutality."

- Rabbi Marvin Hier, Wiesenthal Center Dean and Founder

"We will...continue on the path of friendship and closeness...We will not let our Jewish friends down in their time of need. We condemn unequivocally the cancer of anti-Semitism. We reject as unchristian with all the power we can muster any assertion that Jews collectively bare exclusive responsibility for the death of Christ...We will speak out against hatred of Jews...and we will declare loud and clear that we will not allow bigotry to drive a wedge between us."

- - Pastor Ted Haggard, President of the National Association of Evangelical Christians

[Wayne Coady]

I am not a believer in the bible or church, all one need to do is reflect back in time, review all of the damage religion has caused through out the world.
Then I look at myself as a non believer, and ask myself is religion good to those people who do believe, are those belivers good to other people and do they truly give a dam about others? Then I look to the damage and distruction of Northern Ireland, in the name christianity, then I look at what is taking place in Palistine and Israel, all in the name of their religions. No, it is much safer to be a non beliver. As far as Mel's movie, I will not be watching it.

[commonsense]

'Antisemite' used to mean someone who hates Jews. Now it means someone whom the Jews hate. --LA Rollins

If you want to know where the power lies, then ask whom you cannot criticize. --Kevin Strom

[Willie Dent]

Good point you made about who we cannot criticize and mabye the Jews should lighten up a little bit, I mean they really have big problems back home don't they. Which came first the chicken or the egg or other words, who was there first, the Jews or the Palestinians ? Who is right and who is wrong ?

[commonsense]

I don't think there is any such thing as "the jews" as far as a concerted conspiratorial power bloc is concerned, however,
they are readily targeted as such for many reasons. First of all, as a group they are very successful, wealthy and influential, which makes "them" instant targets of plain old jealousy.
Second, since their religious and cultural heritage has them prize education above all, though statistically small in U.S. population, they comprise a large part of academia and the burgeoning U.S. bureacratic class.
Combine this with the victim mentality that prevails in "social" legislation, and they are wildly disproportionately influential in shaping our youths embracing of socialism.
U.S. founders' philosophy and U.S> history has been systematically disappearing from our schools and replaced with socialism, and ostensibly "humanitarian" efforts throw largely "jewish" contributions at pseudo intellectual studies and "museums" and effectively re-write "African-American" history while indoctrinating young students into the lie of socialism.
As distasteful as it is to find myself quoting the Henry Gibson satirical neo-nazi leader character in the original Blues Brothers movie, while giving a speech in a park in the background over a P.A. system just as the blues brothers' car careens through the scene, he is clearly heard to say (now edited-out whenever the pic is broadcast on TV)
"Our welfare system is just another case of the jew enslaving the black, in order to control the white" ...(cheers)
Of course what the film's producers probably considered a ludicrous example of "hick" thinking used to mock "uneducated" white trash, has now been edited out since the internet is a source for intensive research into facts that lead many to similar real conclusions.
As I always say, as a Libertarian, that it doesn't matter even if it WERE true that such a conspiracy exists, the honest remedy for it, and everything else, is to simply adhere to the tenets of our founding fathers.

[commonsense]

it also doesn't matter "who" killed Jesus 2,000 yrs ago, they're gone, too. Yapping about it in protest of a film only draws heat on themselves.....

[Mathieu]

Who said your founding father even agreed on most issues ?

[commonsense]

Hey, "they didn't always agree" :
The slight evolutionary strains of U.S. Constitutional development do not detract from the main thrust of their most hopeful, world-changing, and truly humanitarian philosophy for the real ascendancy of mankind!!!!

[Mia]

God is responsible for the death of Jesus. I don't know if anyone read this in their Bible, but that's why he was sent to us. To die for our sins. I think it's arrogent to claim any human beings had any responsibility in God's plan.

[Mia]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (cepjr61,)
Jews began their reign globally via the Rothschilds banking family. That info is easily accessible on any google search, and can be found in just about any Eustace Mullins book. Mullins, along with the likes of Dr Anthony C. Sutton, John Coleman, and the infamous David Icke have published volumes on this very subject. Another good read on who controls the globe is Jim Marr's book "Rule By Secrecy". That book will open a lot of eyes after being read. The research in there is impeccable and so accurate that it's somewhat scary.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Their REIGN? Are you kidding me? They have a small, economically dependant country that is under constant threat by all of it's neighbors.

They are greedy and ruthless in their pursuit of the totality of the land they feel should belong to them. They garnered the support of one of the most powerfull nations. But to say they some type of reign suggests power and influence they simply don't have.

[Mia]

I hear lots of lofty statements about the movie. Can someone give me something clear-cut? An actual statement about actual events in the movie that clearly conflict with the Bible in regards to the role of the Jews in turning him over to the Romans who were the ones who actually killed him? (Per God's will, pelase remember).

As to the violence. Did you think the actual events were pretty? As I read them well before the movie they WERE gory. Gibson spent his own money to make this movie and it wasn't for gratuitious gore - it was to show us the actual gore of what really happened. To make us feel it all the way. It's supposed to be painful to watch. Not to whitewash what Jesus did for us (if you believe that way, if not don't watch it!).

Man, people will attack anything!

I think there are a lot more damaging things depicted in films than the truth that some people don't like.

Anyone boycotting the Bible? This is what doesn't make sense to me. He didn't dream this up!!!

[The Thinker]

Not anti Semitic but anti Zionist I am. I believe the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was the plan of The House of The Rothschilds. Do they own the world, you bet, money creates actions.

[jose]

Although only 2 % of the population are jewish half the Billionairs are jewish

Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State (University of Chicago Press, Chicago 1993):

{p. 1} Since the 1960s, Jews have come to wield considerable influence in American economic, cultural, intellectual, and political life. Jews played a central role in American finance during the 1980s, and they were among the chief beneficiaries of that decade's corporate mergers and reorganizations. Today, though barely 2% of the nation's population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks, and the four largest film studios are Jews, as are the owners of the nation's largest newspaper chain and most influential single newspaper, the New York Times. In the late 1960s, Jews already constituted 20% of the faculty of elite universities and 40% of the professors of elite law schools; today, these percentages doubtless are higher.

[dotcoma]

Quick answer: No. Most Isrealis are trying to feed their families and not get killed by the Moussad-created Hamas...

[jose]

Quick answer. if you mean the mossad created hammas were on the same wave and kudus to you for seeing it