flaming vicchio

[Chris the Chees]

Sorry Bishop I disagree, to suggest that the people of America are not isolationist (at least relavtively), especially the conservative elements.

Mr V here, is a prime example. Sure not everyone shares his views, but 60 million Americans just voted in a president who does. That says an auful lot.

The EU is my big problem Chris.

Which you don't understand, and probably don't want to understand.

And I will fall out of my chair laughing should FRANCE reject the "consitution" being proposed.

Why it wouldn't be remotly funny... the EU isn't funny, it is a most boring subject.

I also fail to see why you want to see the EU fail. All it is, is an internal network of countries come together, largley for trade reasons. The EU regulates trade etc within europe, inorder to stimulate the europan economy in the best manner to benefit everybody within the EU community.Now they have established a court, and a set of rules standardising the concept of subjects such as human rights within the EU community.

The EU is a worthy organisation... if a boringing one.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: bishop nazi as in fascists. and, we didn't need to take the case to the u.n.? enlighten me oh wise hick.

Oh wise hick?

Well first off Iraq was in violation of the cease fire, of 14 UN Resolutions, and the UN's stamp fo approval is worth... dog shit. What good has the UN doen in the last 40 years? It's a corrupt organization.


Better to pull out of the UN, kick the UN off US soil, and stand up a new organization with one membership requirement. Democratic system of goverment, required for entry.


And don't call me a hick Bishop, if you want, since is the boiler room to get into a name calling contest, lets start a new thread and have at it.

[Chris the Chees]

It's not like the US hasn't broken UN resolutions.

Does that justify an invasion of the US?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: Chris the Chees It's not like the US hasn't broken UN resolutions. Does that justify an invasion of the US?

Go for it.

UN Resolutions are almost worhtless, they aren't backed up, the UN is paralyzed by ineffective leadership, inability to act, corruption...

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Go for it. UN Resolutions are almost worhtless, they aren't backed up, the UN is paralyzed by ineffective leadership, inability to act, corruption...

Go for it.

Be careful what you ask for, another Osama may just give it too you, god forbid.

The reason why the UN is worthless is because bully boy states, like the USA, don't take a blind bit of noice of it, break its rules and disregard its policies. Then they invoke the name of the N for their foreign policy adventures.

It creates a double standard.

[Mr.Vicchio]

America... bullies? That's not the way it is, it's the way the weak that wish they could lead describe America. America leads, the world can follow or not. It's just how the world works.

Oh and I thought you were talking about a UN peacekeeper mission to invade America. Go for it.

[Chris the Chees]

America... bullies?

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Cuba, etc.

That's not the way it is,

Sorry Mr V, but your wrong, history dictates otherwise.

it's the way the weak that wish they could lead describe America.

If having even a meagre understanding of history makes one 'weak', then so be it.

America leads, the world can follow or not

Oh dear, patriotic drivel time... I used to find it quaint.

It's just how the world works.

No, Mr Dear V, it certainly does not, as 9/11 proved without a shadow of a doubt. As Vietnam also proved, etc.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Vietnam? Yes trying to stop Communist from over taking Vietnam was just bullying for no reason. I sure all the happy little communist now enslaved would agree with you.

Korea... bullying? Do you have history books or do you just repeat lies dicatted to you?


WHAT Chris happened in Korea and how can you call it "bullying"?

Iraq? Gee... didn't they invade thier neighbor...

Cuba? Cuba is communist, and they were allies with the USSR, what do you expect we do? Ignore them?


Oh Chris, your attitudes and conclusions are based on envy, distorted history, and lies.

[Chris the Chees]

Yes trying to stop Communist from over taking Vietnam was just bullying for no reason.

What business did America have in Vietnam?

I sure all the happy little communist now enslaved would agree with you.

Like I said before, drivel, only now its the dirty "reds" instead of worshipping 'old glory'.


Korea... bullying?

Indeed.


WHAT Chris happened in Korea and how can you call it "bullying"?

I need to explain to you what happened in the Korean war? Oh dear, i suggest you return to school Mr, V. You were obviously weren't paying attention in your history lessons.

Do you have history books or do you just repeat lies dicatted to you?


Mr V, if you want to try and patronise me and act all condescending, then be my guest. It changes nothing.


Iraq? Gee... didn't they invade thier neighbor...

Didn't mind when it was Iran though, did you.

But tell me, who did they invade in 2003?

Cuba is communist,

and? What does that have to do with America.

and they were allies with the USSR,

Are, so now you are attempting to excuse the USA's bully boy tactics. Ah well, that’s better than denial.


Oh Chris, your attitudes and conclusions are based on envy, distorted history, and lies.

Mr V, your conclusions are based on nothing other than fantasy based upon a naive and highly inaccurate view of American foreign policy post ww2. What I have stated, if called fact, what you have stated is called denial.

[Chris the Chees]

I will be most pleased to give you a lesson in American foreign policy in another thread. However, right now I need to go to bed, chat later Mr V.

However, it is certainly wise for you avoide any activities which may involve you doing any serious research into the history of your country.

I would hate to witness the shattering of your entire world view.

Good day and good night.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Hey Chris, I know my History on Korea, your arrogant and snide shit bag comments not withstanding. I am not the one with my history wrong.

I will start another thread to prove you wrong.

Just because you are seriously in need of a reality check.

[IndieC]

Do you now? Well, have fun in your new thread... As for the reality check, save it for the US population, they really need it...
I would gladly join in on Korea, but it isn't that interesting. I would like to point out however, that the world will soon be following the EU and China too, not just the US. What will the US do then eh? Be meek and isolate themselves again i hope... for your sake that is...

[rcne]

Quote by: IndieC Do you now? Well, have fun in your new thread... As for the reality check, save it for the US population, they really need it... I would gladly join in on Korea, but it isn't that interesting. I would like to point out however, that the world will soon be following the EU and China too, not just the US. What will the US do then eh? Be meek and isolate themselves again i hope... for your sake that is...

The world will soon be following the EU? It looks as if even one of the proclaimed 'leaders' among the committee of equals of the EU may not even follow the EU. May 29 may just be time to go back to the drawing board -eh. Consider, if one of the powerful nations, who was a driving force to establish the EU to counteract the economic might of the US decides not to accept the EU as it exists today. More committee meeting, pacify member nations until you can get the magic 20 to accept the constitution.

Like I mentioned earlier - do you think in our lifetimes that we shall see the EU become the world power that Europe wishes for? Who needs a reality check now.

The following is a snippet of the news - enjoy

Guardian: France Constitution Rejection Worries EU Friday April 22, 2005 10:01 PM By ROBERT WIELAARD Associated Press Writer BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Europe's executive body acknowledged for the first time Friday a growing fear that France might reject the European Union's constitution in next month's referendum - a potentially shattering blow to decades-long efforts to craft a politically and economically integrated continent. French surveys have shown a steady rise for a ``no'' vote to the charter that the 25 EU leaders, including French President Jacques Chirac, signed in October in Rome. The latest French poll, published Friday, indicated that 62 percent of voters will reject the constitution in the May 29 referendum - the highest figure so far. The poll, conducted Wednesday, was published Friday in the French daily Metro. No margin of error was given in the Internet poll of 1,000 people conducted April 20 by the Market Tools agency. A day earlier, a poll in the weekly l'Express put the ``no'' vote at 58 percent. There has been no victory for the ``Yes'' camp in more than a month of polls about the May 29 referendum, and the French government's concern is evident - along with that of EU officials in Brussels. ``It is very clear the European Commission ... is worried by the turn of the statistics,'' EU spokeswoman Francoise le Bail said. ``One must question if these results are really stable. But the trend seems to be there and that in itself is worrying.'' French rejection could be a fatal blow to Europe's struggle to craft a more politically and economically integrated club and could destabilize the euro currency used in France and 11 other EU countries. All 25 EU members must approve the constitution for it to take effect. When EU leaders signed the constitution, they agreed that if only 20 EU nations ratified it, they would review the document. It is unlikely, however, they will wait until late 2006, when all 25 nations have held either referendums or parliamentary votes on the document.

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Hey Chris, I know my History on Korea, your arrogant and snide shit bag comments not withstanding. I am not the one with my history wrong. I will start another thread to prove you wrong. Just because you are seriously in need of a reality check.

I know my History on Korea

Don't lie.

When dealing with an individual with your lack of understanding (or lack of), one can afford to be arrogant.

[Nono]

Quote by: Mr.V That's the European Dream, we consider that... a failured society.

Thank you, professor, for your definition of the European Dream. (Always wondered what it was. :) )

[Lou Minotti]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio H Obviously you've neither had great sex nor great gaming, and even worse, never combined the two, I feel for you missing out on one of lifes great pleasures.

COMBINED THE TWO????????????????????? HOLY CRAP I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE PATHETIC.....

[Lou Minotti]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio On behalf of all members of the US Armed Forces, I wish to express deep appreciation for your use of freedoms our blood is shed to give you, free speech in this example, and further ask you to drive to your nearest Marine Corp Station, find out where the local Mariens hang out off station to relax (this would be a Bar or Tavern) And ask that you openly, and agressively espouse your views. I don't think your Nut Sack is big enough to take your beliefs beyond an anonymous web forum. But hey, that's your right after all, to talk shit and hide like a coward.

You and the US Armed Forces have nothing to do with my freedoms. Nada. Nothing. Why would I look for a bunch of jarhead just to tell them they work for a global crime syndicate? If you don't get it why would someone dumb enough to put a semper fi sticker on their car get it? Vicchio, Ive taken to the streets. Im not afraid to tell my views to anyone. I've been threatened before. I don't scare easily. Im especially not afraid of people that get hard-ons from playing video games ....Thomas Payne would laugh at you.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: Lou Minotti COMBINED THE TWO????????????????????? HOLY CRAP I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE PATHETIC.....

You really need to try it. Nothings better.

But then, I am a sophisticated kinda guy.


Never had a complaint in that department.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: Lou Minotti You and the US Armed Forces have nothing to do with my freedoms. Nada. Nothing. Why would I look for a bunch of jarhead just to tell them they work for a global crime syndicate? If you don't get it why would someone dumb enough to put a semper fi sticker on their car get it? Vicchio, Ive taken to the streets. Im not afraid to tell my views to anyone. I've been threatened before. I don't scare easily. Im especially not afraid of people that get hard-ons from playing video games ....Thomas Payne would laugh at you.

The military has nothing to do with your freedoms? Right.

And you are fixated with what was obviously a joke.. dude, you on medication? Cause if not.. get there. I play video games for a hobby, we all have hobbies, this one is mine. Sex is another. Does that bother you? I swear you sound like roxdog going off on Gamming like that.


Adn you would piss your pants if I, or any other member of the Armed Forces decided you need an objective lesson in reality. You are a PUSSY. You talk trash on a lefting, hate America forum. Wow... when was the last time you got SHOT at to defend your country.. oh that's right, we aren't risking our lives for you, it's for a big crime syndaicate that only enlightenned people like you can see...

My bad. Would you like a cookie? And a straight jacket?

[Lou Minotti]

You really need to try it. Nothings better. But then, I am a sophisticated kinda guy. Never had a complaint in that department.

Try what? You can't be serious. I really hope you are pulling everyone's chain here....next you're going to tell me you role play with your dungeons and dragons characters. That has to be next on the list....I'm guessing you've never had any compliments either.