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PatrickHenry · Dec 2, 2004, 02:20 am

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December 1, 2004[/color][/font]

[font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#000000]Is Cleveland Next?[/color][/size][/font]

[font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#990000]Canada Declares Victory in Battle of Toledo[/color][/size][/font]

[font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#000000]By MIKE FERNER[/color][/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=+2][color=#990000]T[/color][/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=-1]he Canadian government, unhappy for many years with Washington's belligerent foreign policy and fearful of its massive weapons stockpiles, decided last year to invade the U.S., seizing oil refineries and manufacturing plants, and establishing "regime change" to the delight of many of its neighbors to the south. [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]Canadian officials decided that Toledo, home to 300,000 people, and a regional hotbed of resistance to the puppet government installed by Ottawa, must be pacified in order to participate in free elections scheduled for January. [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]Last month, Canadian Air Force and artillery began shelling Toledo, particularly the South End, home to the worst of the insurgents. Soldiers shut off the city's water. Around the clock, sound trucks alternately blared French rap music and Quebec opera. Residents were warned to leave, except males between 15 and 50. These suspected insurgents were turned back, forced to await the invasion. Between 80 and 90% of Toledoans packed up and fled. Busy intersections like Front and Main, and Byrne and Glendale became deserted. Schools were left vacant. Voices of security guards echoed through empty shopping malls. [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]102,000 Toledoans are now living in Bowling Green, 50,000 are in Monroe, 21,000 in Defiance, 18,000 in Grand Rapids, 12,000 in Tiffin, and some 40,000 are scattered in rural areas of northwest Ohio. Refugees lucky enough to be taken in are reported living seven families to a home. Others are in camps with up to 300 people per toilet. Nighttime temperatures are below freezing. Diarrhea and malnutrition have been killing the very young and the very old for weeks. [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]After Canadian gunships, helicopters and fighter planes rocketed and strafed much of the city and artillery barrages ceased, thousands of Canadian Army and Marines, bone-weary and under constant attack, methodically pushed block by block through Toledo, beginning in Point Place and moving south. The most common tactic used was to kick in a door, spray the interior with machine gun fire, look for insurgents, and repeat, street after street for a week. [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]During services last Sunday, Canadian troops stormed Toledo's Roman Catholic Cathedral, looking for priests they said allowed insurgents to use it as a base of operations. Four panicked worshippers were killed in the attack.[/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]Through the week of fighting, the Toledo Red Cross waited in Perrysburg with food, water and medicines, but Canadians refused to let them cross the Maumee River. Gen. Jack McKenzie, commander of Canadian forces, declared, "There is no humanitarian emergency in Toledo. We have no reports of civilian casualties, but residents who want medical aid can approach Canadian patrols." Fearful, few Toledoans respond to his offer, even though little medical care is available in the city. Canadian forces, claiming that the city's hospitals were "centers of propaganda about civilian casualties during the previous battle of Toledo, bombed St. Luke's and St. Vincent's hospitals the first day of the attack, killing dozens of doctors. The Medical College of Ohio, with water cut off and sporadic electricity, is available for those who can reach it." [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]At the end of one week, much quicker than military analysts predicted, McKenzie declared the battle for Toledo a success. "We measure success by the fact that we've killed 1,600 militants, inflicted no civilian casualties, and sent a strong message to insurgent strongholds in Cleveland and Sandusky. You can run from the Canadian military but you cannot hide." [/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]Ministry of Defense officials in Ottawa agree with Gen. McKenzie's analysis and say only "mopping up operations remain in Toledo."[/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]On the first day after the end of major military operations in Toledo, the American Red Cross estimated 800 civilians died in the fighting, an AP photographer reported dogs feeding on corpses lying in Secor Rd., and a suicide bombing attack by remaining Toledo insurgents killed the 42nd and 43rd Canadian soldiers in that city.[/size][/font]

[font=Verdana][size=-1]Mike Ferner[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=-1] is a member of Veterans for Peace from Toledo, Ohio. He returned from a second trip to Iraq earlier this year. He can be reached at: mike.ferner@sbcglobal.net[/size][/font]

Nono · Dec 2, 2004, 09:41 am

I'm afraid the point will be lost on those most in need of getting it. They'll just say "That's silly. Canada could never do such a thing to us."

Haik · Dec 2, 2004, 09:47 am

it was weird enough that I live in toledo...but you mentioning the south end and and Byrne and Glendale...I live...like right there...haha.

bullshitdetector · Dec 2, 2004, 10:24 am

Nice story, Hollywood would eat it up like candy to a child.

Gorgo · Dec 2, 2004, 10:37 am

Hey! I know Mike Ferner and think he's a great guy, but don't really think that he's telling the truth on this one. I can't verify that until the shelling stops.

PatrickHenry · Dec 2, 2004, 12:23 pm

Sorry about the formatting, guys. Sean turned it off after I posted this, so now it looks like shit. I just thought it was a funny article and I know that Osborn is a Toledoan. I can't edit to make it look better. Maybe I should ask Sean to make me a mod...

kharmajunkie · Dec 2, 2004, 12:30 pm

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Nice story, Hollywood would eat it up like candy to a child.

They did the comedy version and I believe it was John Candy's last movie (one of his last ones) It's called "Canadian Bacon". Alan Alda and Rhea Pearlman, Rip Torn and a bunch
of comics were in it too. Michael Moore wrote and directed it; and not very well. I think it went straight to video.

Osborn F Enready · Dec 2, 2004, 12:55 pm

I think it was a great story Pat, and I recognized every part of town they were talking about. I can definitely see the message, and it is too bad more people can't or don't want to.

I will have to drop Mr. Ferner a line, and commend him on his unusual strategy to enlighten people to the absurdity of this war. It is always nice to meet a local ally in the fight against tyranny.

gr8fuldaniel · Dec 2, 2004, 06:17 pm

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Quote by: PatrickHenry

Sorry about the formatting, guys. Sean turned it off after I posted this, so now it looks like shit. I just thought it was a funny article and I know that Osborn is a Toledoan. I can't edit to make it look better. Maybe I should ask Sean to make me a mod...

I know other folks are having the same trouble.

Try turning off WYSIWYG in your control panel.

It wont work until he enables text formatting. This worked for me.

edit:oooooooooops!
I just checked......WYSIWYG is not an option any more. It used to be 2nd from the bottom

Milton Bradley · Dec 4, 2004, 02:34 pm

Being another Toledoan, here are a few things I noticed.

Metro Toledo is home to closer to 750,000 people, not just 300,000.

We have no Roman Catholic Cathedral.

The extreme South end of Toledo is known as East Toledo because one has to be East of the river to be there.

The article says "thousands of Canadian Army and Marines, bone-weary and under constant attack, methodically pushed block by block through Toledo, beginning in Point Place and moving south"

However, Point Place is a peninsula, and you can only exit there by going West into the city.

Other than that, it wasn't half bad.

P.S. I'm Osborn's real life brother, so I already do know him. LOL. I don't know about the other claimed Toledoan here.

Dec 2, 2004, 02:20 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Canada Declares Victory in Battle of Toledo [font=Times New Roman][color=#000000]http://www.counterpunch.org/ferner12012004.html [/color][/font][font=Times New Roman][color=#000000]From Counterpunch: [/color][/font] [font=Times New Roman][color=#000000] December 1, 2004[/color][/font] *[font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#000000]Is Cleveland Next?[/color][/size][/font]* [font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#990000]Canada Declares Victory in Battle of Toledo[/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=+2][color=#000000]By MIKE FERNER[/color][/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=+2][color=#990000]T[/color][/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=-1]he Canadian government, unhappy for many years with Washington's belligerent foreign policy and fearful of its massive weapons stockpiles, decided last year to invade the U.S., seizing oil refineries and manufacturing plants, and establishing "regime change" to the delight of many of its neighbors to the south. [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]Canadian officials decided that Toledo, home to 300,000 people, and a regional hotbed of resistance to the puppet government installed by Ottawa, must be pacified in order to participate in free elections scheduled for January. [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]Last month, Canadian Air Force and artillery began shelling Toledo, particularly the South End, home to the worst of the insurgents. Soldiers shut off the city's water. Around the clock, sound trucks alternately blared French rap music and Quebec opera. Residents were warned to leave, except males between 15 and 50. These suspected insurgents were turned back, forced to await the invasion. Between 80 and 90% of Toledoans packed up and fled. Busy intersections like Front and Main, and Byrne and Glendale became deserted. Schools were left vacant. Voices of security guards echoed through empty shopping malls. [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]102,000 Toledoans are now living in Bowling Green, 50,000 are in Monroe, 21,000 in Defiance, 18,000 in Grand Rapids, 12,000 in Tiffin, and some 40,000 are scattered in rural areas of northwest Ohio. Refugees lucky enough to be taken in are reported living seven families to a home. Others are in camps with up to 300 people per toilet. Nighttime temperatures are below freezing. Diarrhea and malnutrition have been killing the very young and the very old for weeks. [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]After Canadian gunships, helicopters and fighter planes rocketed and strafed much of the city and artillery barrages ceased, thousands of Canadian Army and Marines, bone-weary and under constant attack, methodically pushed block by block through Toledo, beginning in Point Place and moving south. The most common tactic used was to kick in a door, spray the interior with machine gun fire, look for insurgents, and repeat, street after street for a week. [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]During services last Sunday, Canadian troops stormed Toledo's Roman Catholic Cathedral, looking for priests they said allowed insurgents to use it as a base of operations. Four panicked worshippers were killed in the attack.[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]Through the week of fighting, the Toledo Red Cross waited in Perrysburg with food, water and medicines, but Canadians refused to let them cross the Maumee River. Gen. Jack McKenzie, commander of Canadian forces, declared, "There is no humanitarian emergency in Toledo. We have no reports of civilian casualties, but residents who want medical aid can approach Canadian patrols." Fearful, few Toledoans respond to his offer, even though little medical care is available in the city. Canadian forces, claiming that the city's hospitals were "centers of propaganda about civilian casualties during the previous battle of Toledo, bombed St. Luke's and St. Vincent's hospitals the first day of the attack, killing dozens of doctors. The Medical College of Ohio, with water cut off and sporadic electricity, is available for those who can reach it." [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]At the end of one week, much quicker than military analysts predicted, McKenzie declared the battle for Toledo a success. "We measure success by the fact that we've killed 1,600 militants, inflicted no civilian casualties, and sent a strong message to insurgent strongholds in Cleveland and Sandusky. You can run from the Canadian military but you cannot hide." [/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]Ministry of Defense officials in Ottawa agree with Gen. McKenzie's analysis and say only "mopping up operations remain in Toledo."[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]On the first day after the end of major military operations in Toledo, the American Red Cross estimated 800 civilians died in the fighting, an AP photographer reported dogs feeding on corpses lying in Secor Rd., and a suicide bombing attack by remaining Toledo insurgents killed the 42nd and 43rd Canadian soldiers in that city.[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=-1]Mike Ferner[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=-1] is a member of Veterans for Peace from Toledo, Ohio. He returned from a second trip to Iraq earlier this year. He can be reached at: mike.ferner@sbcglobal.net[/size][/font] "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Dec 2, 2004, 09:41 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,774	I'm afraid the point will be lost on those most in need of getting it. They'll just say "That's silly. Canada could never do such a thing to us." "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Dec 2, 2004, 12:23 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Sorry about the formatting, guys. Sean turned it off after I posted this, so now it looks like shit. I just thought it was a funny article and I know that Osborn is a Toledoan. I can't edit to make it look better. Maybe I should ask Sean to make me a mod... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Dec 2, 2004, 12:55 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	I think it was a great story Pat, and I recognized every part of town they were talking about. I can definitely see the message, and it is too bad more people can't or don't want to. I will have to drop Mr. Ferner a line, and commend him on his unusual strategy to enlighten people to the absurdity of this war. It is always nice to meet a local ally in the fight against tyranny. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 2, 2004, 09:47 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Haik Molten Ash Posts: 64	it was weird enough that I live in toledo...but you mentioning the south end and and Byrne and Glendale...I live...like right there...haha.

Dec 2, 2004, 10:24 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
bullshitdetector BANNED Posts: 598	Nice story, Hollywood would eat it up like candy to a child.

Dec 2, 2004, 10:37 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Hey! I know Mike Ferner and think he's a great guy, but don't really think that he's telling the truth on this one. I can't verify that until the shelling stops.

Dec 4, 2004, 02:34 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	Being another Toledoan, here are a few things I noticed. Metro Toledo is home to closer to 750,000 people, not just 300,000. We have no Roman Catholic Cathedral. The extreme South end of Toledo is known as East Toledo because one has to be East of the river to be there. The article says "thousands of Canadian Army and Marines, bone-weary and under constant attack, methodically pushed block by block through Toledo, beginning in Point Place and moving south" However, Point Place is a peninsula, and you can only exit there by going West into the city. Other than that, it wasn't half bad. P.S. I'm Osborn's real life brother, so I already do know him. LOL. I don't know about the other claimed Toledoan here.