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This topic in Miscellaneous is about WTC Structural Failure Hearings.

View Poll Results: Should the WTC Structural Failure Hearings be open to the public?
Yes 35 81.40%
No 4 9.30%
Open to representative 911 families and/or their lawyers 1 2.33%
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:52 pm   #61 (permalink) (top)
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woops, clicked it twice
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:52 pm   #62 (permalink) (top)
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Is that a tic or just you being all excited to see Rainbow?
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:53 pm   #63 (permalink) (top)
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Shouldn't you be in recess right about now?
Are you addressing your post to me ?
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:55 pm   #64 (permalink) (top)
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Is that a tic or just you being all excited to see Rainbow?
That is an absurd (as some people claim), that 09/11 event was the result of U.S. govenment's set up.
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:57 pm   #65 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Rainbow,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rainbow,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bullshitdetector,
Is that a tic or just you being all excited to see Rainbow?
That is an absurd (as some people claim), that 09/11 event was the result of U.S. govenment's set up.[/b][/quote]


You sure don't have to convince me of that Rainbow, I think some people are just reading shit like the onion to get their facts. Right straight out of Whoville this stuff comes from, I tell ya.
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 01:08 pm   #66 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Rainbow,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rainbow,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bullshitdetector,
Is that a tic or just you being all excited to see Rainbow?
That is an absurd (as some people claim), that 09/11 event was the result of U.S. govenment's set up.[/b][/quote]
Do you seriously expect people to understand this sentence? And you believe your conspiracy theory, I'll believe mine. Unfortunately, yours doesn't explain the facts of the matter, yet resulted in WWIII.
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 10:09 pm   #67 (permalink) (top)
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Do you seriously expect people to understand this sentence? And you believe your conspiracy theory, I'll believe mine. Unfortunately, yours doesn't explain the facts of the matter, yet resulted in WWIII.
Yes, I do.
Since you have managed to understand it, I do not think others may have problems either :-)))

09/11 events is not about any theories, then there is not much to be upheld but the facts.
Are you suggesting that 09/11 is a "prelude" to WWIII ? or you meant WWII ?
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Old Nov 19, 2004, 11:45 am   #68 (permalink) (top)
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You aren't making any sense. Chew on this...BIG news...

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=...041112144051451
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Old Nov 19, 2004, 11:52 am   #69 (permalink) (top)
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A lot of steel highrises have had BIG fires. HOT fires. Why did the ONLY collapses ever in history happen on 9/11/2001? Three buildings. And one of them wasn't even hit with a plane...

Still think you're gettin' the whole story?


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Old Nov 19, 2004, 12:10 pm   #70 (permalink) (top)
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Jet fuel coming out of a fully fueled large aircraft pouring down an elevator shaft and ignited can do amazing damage. There is absolutely no evidence of this propaganda/conspiracy anywhere besides leftist blogs. Not one credible bonified news source has even hinted of this and I know Ted Koppel would dive on this like a vulture to a kill. Reason and logic dictate this is all nonsense.
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Old Nov 19, 2004, 12:20 pm   #71 (permalink) (top)
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BS, some subjects are too sensitive for the mass media to touch. But that still doesn't make all the facts fit into the box.


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Old Nov 19, 2004, 12:23 pm   #72 (permalink) (top)
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This is no "leftist blog conspiracy theory". Read the source. This guy is what you call a "whistle blower". Ever heard that term used? Ted Koppel is a wuss. Not too sure what you are expecting out of him. If you were using reason and logic you would have came up with a more effective way to dispute this solid source. This guys is of the establishment, in a position to know, AND gets fired for it. You come up with, "kerosine show can do sum amazin things". You really tipped the scales on this one.
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Old Nov 19, 2004, 02:25 pm   #73 (permalink) (top)
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Read the source.
The "source" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory website.....


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Old Nov 19, 2004, 02:30 pm   #74 (permalink) (top)
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This is no "leftist blog conspiracy theory". Read the source. This guy is what you call a "whistle blower". Ever heard that term used? Ted Koppel is a wuss. Not too sure what you are expecting out of him. If you were using reason and logic you would have came up with a more effective way to dispute this solid source. This guys is of the establishment, in a position to know, AND gets fired for it. You come up with, "kerosine show can do sum amazin things". You really tipped the scales on this one.

Have you ever flown on an airplane fueled with kerosene? Did I say kerosene? Either stick with the topic on a serious level and back your assertions with fact or don't, I could care less but I didn't trip over the line into ad hominem on this one Tex. you did.
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Old Nov 19, 2004, 02:32 pm   #75 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Dieval,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dieval,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Texans 4 Furors,
Read the source.
The "source" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory website.....[/b][/quote]

Dieval, this is guy is supposed to be a whistleblower. Can you say "Disgruntled ex employee"?
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Old Nov 21, 2004, 10:46 am   #76 (permalink) (top)
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The "source" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory website.....

Dieval, this is guy is supposed to be a whistleblower. Can you say "Disgruntled ex employee"?
Was he digruntled before or after he wrote the memo? The memo he wrote cites specifics...unlike the responses to it. BS or not the questions remain.
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Old Nov 21, 2004, 10:55 am   #77 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Texan,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Texan,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Read the source[/b]
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The "source" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory website.....[/b]
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Dieval, this is guy is supposed to be a whistleblower. Can you say "Disgruntled ex employee"? [/quote]The "Whistle blower" in this case 911 Truth is an <!--QuoteBegin-911truth,

An executive at Underwriters Laboratories (UL), the company that certified the steel used in the construction of the World Trade Center[/quote]
The 911 truth site is a website set up by families of the victims of 911, who are not happy with the official story or the coverup by the 911 commission. Conspiracy De-Bunkers. I understand you guys cant challenge the facts, so you have to shoot the messenger, ad infinitum.
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Old Nov 21, 2004, 11:05 am   #78 (permalink) (top)
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About UL
About UL
Underwriters Laboratories Inc. (UL) is an independent, not-for-profit product-safety testing and certification organization. We have tested products for public safety for more than a century.

Since our founding in 1894, we have held the undisputed reputation as a leader in product-safety testing and certification within the United States. Building on our household name in the United States, UL is becoming one of the most recognized, reputable conformity assessment providers in the world. Today, our services extend to helping companies achieve global acceptance, whether for an electrical device, a programmable system, or an organization's quality process.

Here's more information about UL's global conformity work in 2003:
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Old Nov 21, 2004, 11:10 am   #79 (permalink) (top)
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I should have included this too, it doesnt take up that much space, and since credibility is such a standard for you.
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19 billion UL Marks appeared on products.

68,713 manufacturers produced UL-certified products.

UL conducted 103,286 product evaluations.

UL evaluated 18,850 types of products.

UL conducted 547,708 follow-up visits in 2003 to audit compliance with product certification requirements.

127 UL inspection centers.

UL customers were found in 99 countries.

UL reached 143.1 million consumers with safety messages in the United States and Canada.

There were 876 UL Standards.

UL registered 5,607 facilities to a management system standard as of Dec. 31, 2003.

60 laboratory, testing and certification facilities were part of the UL family of companies.

More than 6,023 staff of the UL family of companies ready to serve UL customers.
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Old Nov 21, 2004, 11:34 am   #80 (permalink) (top)
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I may have been mistaken about this.....
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The 911 truth site is a website set up by families of the victims of 911
It doesnt make any mention of this in the About 911 Truth page. Sorry for any inconvenience. There is another organization set up by the families.

There is word about families of 911 victims pooling the recently recieved settlement money, to a worthy cause other than sueing the government (a right they waived, before they could recieve any compensation) (I would suggest anything to expedite regime change, just my 2 cents)
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