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View Poll Results: Should the WTC Structural Failure Hearings be open to the public?
Yes 35 81.40%
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Open to representative 911 families and/or their lawyers 1 2.33%
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Old Nov 14, 2004, 09:20 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Sorry Suburb I saw that a while ago, and got side tracked.

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what about impact?
Not likely. Way too much structural steel all around the damaged area.

Why? Did the official story ever offer that?

I just doesnt seem valid at all.The real strength of a tower is at the core, the elevator shafts are really dense . Like Honey comb

Here is a Story that reads like a novel, about why WTC had to fall.

There have been several reports of explosions, even seismic activity to back it up.

As for impact, I will have to do some more research. Doubtful, though.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 02:27 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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There were similar reports on the Oklahoma bombing as well
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 02:34 am   #23 (permalink) (top)
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OKC was a white wash too. Do you really believe a truckload of fertilizer did that kind of damage?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 10:06 am   #24 (permalink) (top)
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OKC was a white wash too. Do you really believe a truckload of fertilizer did that kind of damage?
Have any hard proof other than freeper articles and conspiracy blog entries that can prove this allegation, gr8?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 11:31 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
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The federal agency investigating the collapse of the World Trade Center said this week that some of its deliberations would take place in secret, including discussions on possible changes to national building codes and standards.
That is a very good decision.
Otherwise, those who want to harm U.S., would not need to seek for a specific information on building constructions codes, but turn the TV-set on and have all the "blue-prints" available for free, instead.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 03:55 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe "those who wish to harm the US" ARE the federal agencies investigating the controlled demolition of the WTC. Ever thought of that?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 03:58 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by bullshitdetector,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bullshitdetector,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-gr8fuldaniel,
OKC was a white wash too. Do you really believe a truckload of fertilizer did that kind of damage?
Have any hard proof other than freeper articles and conspiracy blog entries that can prove this allegation, gr8?[/b][/quote]
http://www.harpers.org/Newsstand200410.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Letters/3...nection-%20.htm
http://www.okcbombing.org/
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:09 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Again, credible news sources, news agencies without a bias, got any?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:15 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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There is no such thing. The .org is run by an ex OK congressman who has been calling foul for 10 years. Credible news stories are included on the site. Harpers- Millions of readers. Completely credible. AFP- Biased but accurate and completely credible. If you are looking for a press release signed by Jesus Christ you probably won't find it.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:21 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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There is no such thing in your favorites folder maybe.....millions of people like the mousekateers too, does this make the mousekateers credible news sources? Excuse me while laugh uncontrolably at your suggestion.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:24 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Which suggestion? Are you trying to tell me Harpers Magazine is some worthless rag? You wanted a mainstream source citing a whitewash. You got it. Your analogy is pretty weak, by the way.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:42 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by bullshitdetector,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bullshitdetector,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-gr8fuldaniel,
OKC was a white wash too. Do you really believe a truckload of fertilizer did that kind of damage?
Have any hard proof other than freeper articles and conspiracy blog entries that can prove this allegation, gr8?[/b][/quote]Prove which part?
A)Whitewash making it look like a one-man terrorist operation
B)Or, that Fertilizer can can do the extensive damage to concrete and steel we all witnessed at OKC.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:49 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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I suggest people give this a listen.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 04:58 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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Micronuclear devices? What a load of crap! The article by Deagle bears all of the marks of a cobbled-together pile of BS.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:00 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Wow, you debuked that entire hour long interview in one sentence !!! My guess is you also googled Deagle's name to see how solid his credentials are.

Why not GIVE HIM A CALL and tell us how it goes???

Dr. Wm. R. Deagle MD,ABFP,CIME,CCFP
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Unit E-80 Box 20
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Phone: 888-212-8871
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:09 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe "those who wish to harm the US" ARE the federal agencies investigating the controlled demolition of the WTC. Ever thought of that?
Maybe they are Shogun's spies, maybe Ghandi's ones.
Assuming that your "findings" are correct, then what would the federal agenices gain ?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:16 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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Why is "findings" in quotes? Never said anything about any "findings".

Shogun? Ghandi? Not following you.

What do they have to gain? Ever heard of the GRU?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:20 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Why is "findings" in quotes? Never said anything about any "findings".

Shogun? Ghandi? Not following you.

What do they have to gain? Ever heard of the GRU?
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"Findings" in quotes, because you (most likely) have no evidence.
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Forget it.
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GRU ?
In terms of intelligence agencies ?
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:26 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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"Findings" in quotes, because you (most likely) have no evidence.
But who are you quoting? Evidence of what? What?

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Forget it.
Done. That was easy.

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GRU ?
In terms of intelligence agencies ?
No, in terms of googling something I've never heard of and answering a question with a question.
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Old Nov 15, 2004, 05:32 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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But who are you quoting? Evidence of what? What?
Yourself.

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Maybe "those who wish to harm the US" ARE the federal agencies investigating the controlled demolition of the WTC. Ever thought of that?
The word "maybe" indicates that federal agencies could have been interested in WTC events.
Am I correct ?
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