Impeach Bush

[Gorgo]

This means is he guilty of "High Crimes" and misdemeanors that are worthy of impeachment, not, did he get a BJ under the desk, or did he not give my rich uncle a high enough tax break.

[Rainbow]

Gorgo, submit the data on "High Crimes", please.

P.S.
Since there is no sufficient informations on a particular subject, I chose :
- "Other"

[Gorgo]

There is plenty of information on this, but this is enough for me:

\http://www.cesr.org/iraq/docs/tearinguptherules.pdf

Are you guys in a dreamworld? I do not like the guy either, but he was elected by a majority. Good luck convincing them that they were wrong :)

[Gorgo]

I said "assuming that it were possible."

[bishop]

he certainly broke several laws governing our country. if it were possible, he should be impeached.

[PatrickHenry]

Impeach Bush for lying the country into a costly bloody war.

[gr8fuldaniel]

1) Abu Ghraib torture was authorized by GW Bush. Unprecedented violation of International Human Rights and Geneva Conventions

2) Marianni Trial verdict could be grounds for impeachment.

3) Declaring war on Iraq, defrauding Americans by using trumped up intelligence and stupidity.

4) Perjury. The President is under oath at all times. He lied to America during the SOTUA of 2003. Declaring "The rape and torture rooms were closed" (While he spoke, he was aware of torture at Abu Ghraib, GOING ON AT THAT MOMENT...AS HE SPOKE, but thought he was above those laws)
5) Bush has sworn to protect and enforce the Constitution at all times. The Patriot ACT fucked that up.

[Dieval]

I know Gorgo is serious about this, but in reality it's just an absurd attempt to slander the president.

[Gorgo]

You mean libel. However you mean it, slander or libel is about false statements. You haven't pointed out any false statements that have been made here.

[Dieval]

Originally posted by Gorgo, You mean libel. However you mean it, slander or libel is about false statements. You haven't pointed out any false statements that have been made here.

You're whole "High Crimes" accusation is ABSURD!
If they were even remotely possible, he would have been investigated and charged. Has that happened?

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by Dieval, You're whole "High Crimes" accusation is ABSURD! If they were even remotely possible, he would have been investigated and charged. Has that happened?

If your Party holds the dominant position, you may do anything you wish as long as you can hold public opinion in check.

[Gorgo]

Who is going to charge him? The Democrats? They'd have to charge every president and their administrations.

What you're saying is that Al Capone wasn't a murderer because no one ever convicted him of murder.

Originally posted by Dieval,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dieval,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Gorgo, You mean libel.  However you mean it, slander or libel is about false statements.  You haven't pointed out any false statements that have been made here.

You're whole "High Crimes" accusation is ABSURD!
If they were even remotely possible, he would have been investigated and charged. Has that happened?[/b][/quote]

[Dieval]

Originally posted by Gorgo, Who is going to charge him? The Democrats? They'd have to charge every president and their administrations. What you're saying is that Al Capone wasn't a murderer because no one ever convicted him of murder.

Alright - Gorgo, PH, gr8, and anyone else who thinks that Bush is guilty of crimes, I'm calling you out. Put up or shut up.
Here's what you need to do to prove your point -
1)Get your "proof" together.
2)Hire a lawyer(or do it yourself)
3)Charge the President of the United States of America with whatever crimes you think he committed and present your "proof" to the court system and let them determine his guilt or innocence. (None of you are qualified to make that judgement)
4)Post updates here on your case so we know what's going on
OR
Stop with the absurd allegations.

[Gorgo]

You do the same with Al Capone.

[Dieval]

Yet another absurd statement....I never said I had proof that Al killed anyone. I know you've claimed to have proof of Bush's crime(s).

[Sonart]

You're whole "High Crimes" accusation is ABSURD!

Really? This went unresponded to last 'impeachment' thread. I'm still waiting...

GROSS CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE

"In the realm of criminal common law, criminal negligence is a legal term of art for a state of mind which is careless, inattentive, neglectful, wilfully blind, or reckless; it is the mens rea part of a crime which, if occurring simultaneously with the actus reus, gives rise to criminal liability. Some distinguish recklessness from negligence; recklessness is a 'malfeasance' that increases the danger of an act occurring; whereas criminal negligence is a 'misfeasance or 'nonfeasance,'merely allowing otherwise avoidable dangers to manifest.This is an example of the difference between a general intent crime and a specific intent crime with recklessness being more specific than criminal negligence. In some cases this 'nonfeasance' can rise to the level of wilful blindness where the individual intentionally avoids confronting a situation that no reasonable person would ever allow to occur.

Gross criminal negligence is behavior which involves a "wanton disregard for human life." Of course, in all these cases if the actus reus or bad act never occurs then there is no crime as both elements are necessary under the criminal common law to sustain a guilty conviction.

Usually the punishment for criminal negligence, criminal recklessness, criminal endangerment, wilful blindness and other related crimes is imprisonment, unless the criminal is insane (and then in some cases the sentence is indeterminate). Examples of criminally negligent crimes are criminally negligent homicide and negligent endangerment of a child."

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Despite ambiguous evidence regarding whether Saddam Hussein was a threat or not, despite warnings that the evidence Bush chose to believe was unreliable, and despite clear warnings from his State Department, his CIA and his senior military that the occupation of Iraq was an invitation to guerilla war and quagmire, Bush and his Cabal proceeded with the invasion of Iraq based on erroneous assumptions based on selective readings of the facts as known, using information from an Iranian spy whom both CIA and State warned was unreliable, and willfully ignoring the facts as presented by those paid to know.

If they were even remotely possible, he would have been investigated and charged. Has that happened?

Republicans own Congress, of course. Duh! Republicans only impeach for really serious offenses, like lying under oath about an affair.

[Technosoul]

I would not totally advocate impeachment but think that hearings would be held, to look into the motives for the war on Iraq and concerning the information used for doing a first strike and if that information was purposely enchanced from being questionable data to being presented as overwhelming and absoulte evidence. If after the hearings bring out the truth then we can talk impeachment or not.

[Sonart]

And which committee headed by which Republican is going to launch such a hearing, Techno?

[Gorgo]

I would suggest that unless you have something to add to a discussion that you stay out of them. We have proof without question that Bush is a criminal. There is no argument. We have shown it. You have nothing to contest that fact except to say that there is no one in power that wants to prosecute him. Well, no shit. There have been Congress members that have tried to bring it up, but Bush has too many supporters. The Democrats with the guts to deal with it have no power. The other Democrats and Republicans know that they're as guilty as Bush.

Many of them have supported Bush's crimes, not to mention Clinton's crimes and Bush I's crimes and Reagan's crimes and Carter's crimes and Ford's crimes and Nixon's crimes. Why would they prosecute?

Originally posted by Dieval, Yet another absurd statement....I never said I had proof that Al killed anyone. I know you've claimed to have proof of Bush's crime(s).