Advertising for Palin's book.

[JeffM]

Note that on this site alone there is an overabundance of advertising for Palin's new book. Somebody is putting a pile of money behind this wingnut rightie because it's not just here. Everywhere you go on the internet you are assaulted by her smiling face. This must be the beginning of her run for pres in 2012, or at least preparation for it.

Lefties, you had your chance to destroy this nutcase and you let it slip by. People in Alaska are well aware of how dangerous she is and there are numerous blogs which are trying hard to spread the word. One of the best, bree palin's is at least trying to expose her lies about being pregnant with the DS child to cover for her daughter.

Bree Palin

Good people, you owe it to your country to stop the wicked witch of the north, before she slithers into a position of power!

[Cruella]

Is there a debate here, please?

[JeffM]

Please Cruella? Does there need to be a debate? It's simply my observation and it's a valid observation if I do say so myself. If it offends you in some way, be that a lack of debate or a political observation which goes against your grain then by all means push your buttons and delete it.

I'll know better next time won't I!

And as well, I'll know you better next time too!

[Thanatos]

It says debate forum, don't it? Don't worry, it takes everyone a while to really get a feel for this place.

Moving on...

If they're smart the Republicans will distance themselves from their base and rely on the fact that those people won't vote for a Democrat anyway. However stupid is as stupid does and I would not be terribly surprised if they try to run Sarah anyway - with disastrous results.

It is my debatable opinion that there just aren't enough crazies for her candidacy to work. There were an awful lot of moderate Republicans who didn't like her...

[rez]

She destroys her own reputation every time she opens her mouth. You are fighting a losing battle here.

[rmnunez]

Not a copyright infringement, but certainly qualifies for deceptive advertising:

Start-up publisher OR Books has announced plans to publish Going Rouge: Sarah Palin An American Nightmare, a collection of essays about the maverick Republican with a title (and cover design) remarkably similar to Palin’s upcoming memoir. What’s more, OR’s paperback tome will be released on Nov. 17, the same day that Palin’s own Going Rogue: An American Life hits shelves — and one day after Palin’s just-announced, first-ever appearance on Oprah Winfrey’s show. (A shout-out to Ron Hogan at GalleyCat for the tip.) Going Rouge is compiled by Richard Kim and Betsy Reed, two top editors of the left-leaning weekly The Nation, and includes essays by Nation regulars like Katrina vanden Heuvel, Naomi Klein, and Katha Pollitt. It’s the first release from OR Books, a fledgling outfit founded earlier this year by publishing veterans John Oakes and Colin Robinson that “embraces progressive change in politics, culture and the way we do business,” according to its website. I realize that this anti-Palin book is a paperback and probably won’t be stocked anywhere near Palin’s hardcover memoir in bookstores, but do these jackets look too similar to be, well, fully kosher? At the very least, might some hockey-mom-loving conservatives be confused enough to pick up the wrong book? You betcha! Attention, Sarah Palin bashers: Lookalike book 'Going Rouge' is coming! | EW.com

[JeffM]

Yeah Thanatos, it says debate forum but I didn't expect any mod to hang her hat on that distinction. Anyway, all clear so far so I guess she got some advice or decided to not push the minor point.

[Cruella]

I'm in a different time zone is all. As it has been repeatedly confirmed that this is not a debate thread, this thread has been moved to a non-debate forum.

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[Compugasm]

Tina Fey hit the lucky jackpot on this one.

[SmirkingMan]

Oh, all right, doesn't (yet) involve differing viewpoints, so not formally a debate. Never mind.

Observing from the other side of the pond, an extremely prevalent view here is that Palin was the best possible thing that could have happened for America, as her astonishing stupidity sunk McCain dead in the water and thus facilitated Obama's election.

Now I can't imagine that that observation hasn't been made by some republicans, so to what possible end could all this advertising be intended? Just for her book seems improbable, no?

Does somebody have any idea who's paying?

[Diogenes]

and it's a valid observation if I do say so myself.

Here's a debate for ya...it's not a valid observation...not even close.

Regardless of her own personal intentions or the intentions of her handlers...these ADs have nothing to do with any plans she does or does not have.

More than likely they are the product of the book publisher who wants to market her book, marketing produces sales, sales produces a chance to be on one or more of the Best Selling lists floating around, thereby creating more sales...more awards...greater revenue...

they likely see the controversy surrounding her as an added benefit that would produce even more sales...and conspiracy theorists who think this is an elaborate and purposeful attempt to gain political office as further revenue benefit...

in conclusion: by even starting this thread you are helping to promote her book, create more revenue for both the publisher and her, and...if your theory is right...

helping her to get elected...as most Americans vote for the person they most recognize not the person who actually deserves to be elected.

[Maryjane]

in conclusion: by even starting this thread you are helping to promote her book, create more revenue for both the publisher and her, and...if your theory is right... helping her to get elected...as most Americans vote for the person they most recognize not the person who actually deserves to be elected.

Totally agree.

[Trojan_Ripper]

Here's a debate for ya...it's not a valid observation...not even close.

Totally agree.

I'll second and third that.

[JeffM]

I'll try again! Having once failed to have this topic kept in this section of the forum where the heavy traffic is, and not being at liberty to ask as to the reasons why it was moved, I'll put it back here and make an attempt to correct the reason why it had to be moved.

To begin, could it be that there was nothing to debate? If that is the reason then I offer up the question of whether or not Palin, a prominent political figure, should be in our faces as much as seems to be the current practice of this forum. Thereby offering up a political question to debate.

Or could it be that the substance of the debate is distasteful to some moderators on this forum? If that is the case then I will apologize for the intrusion into that moderator's sensibilities. However, having said that I would still maintain that would not be a valid reason to move a thread from the political section. If I could perhaps be given permission to pursue the question in private then maybe that would be for the best. Alas, permission was strictly denied for me to do that.

And so to the topic of the debate: Should Palin's ugly maw be there to greet decent people on this forum on nearly every page we call up? Is there a lack of balance on this forum due to political preferences or is it more a case of a lot of big money is going into supporting the wicked witch of the north.

And should it be so? If we have to suffer the pervasive and in-your-face advertising on this forum then should we not be able to ask for some kind of balance? I think we should. What do others think?

[Diogenes]

should be in our faces as much as seems to be the current practice of this forum.

The forum has no control over what ADs are shown...they are context based ADs supplied by Google.

Should Palin's ugly maw be there to greet decent people on this forum on nearly every page we call up?

The forum has no control over what ADs are shown...they are context based ADs supplied by Google.

Is there a lack of balance on this forum due to political preferences or is it more a case of a lot of big money is going into supporting the wicked witch of the north.

The forum has no control over what ADs are shown...they are context based ADs supplied by Google.

If we have to suffer the pervasive and in-your-face advertising on this forum then should we not be able to ask for some kind of balance?

The forum has no control over what ADs are shown...they are context based ADs supplied by Google.


Got it now??? or do you need pictures?

[JeffM]

Diogenes, Oh I see now. Then we should maybe be debating whether or not this forum should be accepting what Google throws at it. Or better still, as I suggested, we should be questioning the pervasiveness of the ads because of the fact that Palin's supporters are dumping a huge amount of money into putting her face on people's screens. And that, I would respectfully suggest, is the reason why I am debating the question.

Did you get it that time?

Look Deogenes, this is just as much a trial balloon on my part as anything else. And so it should be! This is a legitimate issue to debate on the political section and I take exception to it being moved. Therein, you should be able to understand why it becomes a trial balloon. There are just too many good forums on the internet today which have lively and intelligent debate to offer and which don't have overzealous people with buttons who like to push them and then offer no valid reason why. I mean just ask yourself, why does she care? Because she's not allowed to hit her kids maybe? And too, it's not like this is the first time I've had a run at this forum and it's button pushers! It probably won't be the last, albeit under some new alias and new IP.

Try to stay on topic so I don't have to do this please.

[SmirkingMan]

As it's not common knowledge, let me explain briefly how Google Ads work.

The algorithm works approximately like this (I'm cutting a lot of corners, just to convey the idea):

1. Alfred, Brian and Charles want to advertise with Google on the internet.
2. Alfred wants his ads to be on pages associated with the word "politics". He bids 2$ a hit for this ad.
3. Brian also wants his ads to be on pages associated with the word "politics". He bids 5$ a hit for this ad.
4. Charles also wants his ads to be on pages associated with the word "politics". He bids 10$ a hit for this ad.
5. Alfred, Brian and Charles each compose a little picture, their ad, which they submit with their bids.
6. A page is displayed. Google looks at the content of the page and sees 'politics' or words related to politics.
7. Suppose the page has 3 spaces for ads down the right hand side. As expected, Charles' ad is in the 1st position, Brian's 2nd and Alfred's 3rd, due to the prices they bid.
8. If you click on Charles' ad, which takes you to Charles' site, Google charges Charles 5$. Yes, 5$, not 10$; the cost of the click-through is the bid of the next lowest bidder.
9. Time passes and Google counts which ads are clicked most often.
10. Suppose that after a while it's Brian's ad that's getting clicked the most. Once Brian's ad is getting clicked more than twice as often as Charles' ad, Google will move Brian's ad up into first place, because it's Brian's ad that generates the most revenue for Google.
11. What's perhaps not immediately obvious is that this technique strongly encourages advertisers to make good-looking ads. Survival of the fittest.

Again, in reality, it's much complex than that, but you should get the jist of it.

To answer your question:
The reason that Volconvo is plastered with Palin ads is that somebody has bid for words that occur frequently on Volconvo; words, like politics, Palin, etc.

[yukonmuffin]

funny how they always say things like "Like Palin?" and "Stop Obama".

[loser]

It shows a severe lack of credibility when people bash Palin as ignorant or stupid. Obviously, her backwoods (read that country) demeanor and, more specifically, her belief in God has caused many of the pathetic human waste of the far left to create a raucous caucus decrying Palin, calling her dangerous.

Dangerous? How so? Do they feel threatened by her? Could she finally galvanize a large majority of electorates who have been voter-silent over the past few elections; non-voters who have been disenchanted with politics-as-usual?

One thing is clear: Sarah Palin is anything but stupid! Of course, the naysayers know this. If she was stupid, she wouldn't be a danger (to them).

What dangers does she pose? Liberal, government-funded abortions not being forced upon taxpayers (a danger against the unconscionable murder of helpless, unborn children)? The right to the free exercise of religion (a danger to the assault on God and Christianity)? The right to bear arms (a danger to gun-control weirdos and criminals)? A danger to the moose population?

Okay, weirdos, it's your turn...say something weird.

Watch these videos and if you still feel compelled to question Palin's intelligence, then re-read the very first sentence of this post.

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Hannity - part 1 of 5

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Hannity - part 2 of 5

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Hannity - part 3 of 5

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Hannity - part 4 of 5

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Hannity - part 5 of 5

For a lighter note, here's a drunken, recently released from prison (and looking very confused) Martha Stewart calling Sarah Palin (get this) dangerous, confused, and boring...yawn...

YouTube - Martha Stewart Calls Sarah Palin a 'Dangerous Person'; CNN's 'Showbiz Tonight' Defends Palin

I can't help but laugh at this 'black pot'. She's richer than her ganache or her jailhouse coffee. Martha, martha, martha...U2 much martha.

[Angry Citizen]

It shows a severe lack of credibility when people bash Palin as ignorant or stupid. Obviously, her backwoods (read that country) demeanor and, more specifically, her belief in God has caused many of the pathetic human waste of the far left to create a raucous caucus decrying Palin, calling her dangerous.

Uh.. pathetic human waste? Glad to know that Jesus' message of eternal love reached you.

Do they feel threatened by her?

I keep seeing this come up, like a whack-a-mole that refuses to stay down. Palin is a laughing-stock. There is nothing wrong with being folksy. What is wrong is being a complete idiot.

I wouldn't be caught dead voting for this woman, and I've always stylized myself as being on the right-end of the spectrum. I would, however, happily have voted for McCain - a responsible moderate.

Could she finally galvanize a large majority of electorates who have been voter-silent over the past few elections; non-voters who have been disenchanted with politics-as-usual?

I would be proud to drum up support for Obama if this woman entered 2012 as the Republican nominee. And here I was thinking I could calmly, coolly cast my vote for a Libertarian. Unfortunately, I care about this country too much to let Palin behind the desk.

What dangers does she pose?

Well, she believes that intelligent design should be taught in schools. She's committed to fighting the 'war' on terrorism, implying her complete inability to distinguish reality from fiction. She doesn't know the first thing about economics (hilariously, that interview you link to later on in the post shows in her own words that she essentially failed macroeconomics ... the study of the economics of a nation-state!!) She thinks foreign policy experience is living across the Bering Sea. She is a flip-flopper that would make John Kerry proud. She is against Roe v. Wade, which is easily the best solution possible in this debate. She supports the Patriot Act, infringing on our civil liberties.

Okay, weirdos

You Christians are such hypocrites.

For a lighter note, here's a drunken, recently released from prison (and looking very confused)

For a lighter note, lets point to all the birthers, all the ridiculous nutjobs even on this board who think Obama is a demon willing to sell this country to the highest bidder. Screw looking at Martha Stewart, lets look at the supporters of Palin - largely trailer trash, uneducated hicks from Burgsville South.