Is this what really happened?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Its called the plane plowed into the ground. Remember that Value Jet flight that went down in Flordia? Wasn't much left there that looked like a plane...

Airliners rarely crash at high speed into the ground... or buildings, thats why when there is a normal crash there is so much debris, the pilots are trying to save the aircraft. Unless there is a catastrophic failure they hit pretty soft, say 150-200 knts, not 300-500knts.

Its physics 101. Inertia is a bitch.

[waterfalllife]

So is gravity. A Boeing 757 cannot fly at 503 mph 2 feet above the ground. The people that can do that are highly trained military specialists. These were muslim fanatics. Something doesnt add up here. Unless you have spent years training how to fly a commercial JET (not a prop plane as was the "training tool" in the flight schools they attended) you cannot pull that off. Even with movie magic.

Crackpot theory? Maybe, but something still does not add up to plane go boom.

[gr8fuldaniel]

I agree with waterfall, anyone seen my cordite?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Yeah, it must have been a missle, all that debris in teh pentagon, the missing airliner, all the people involved, the eye witnessess, all those little details to pull of such a stunt really don't matter.

You guys crack me up.

PT Barnum was right.

[PatrickHenry]

What happened to the black boxes?
Why did NORAD scramble interceptors too damn late?
Why was the debris field for Flight 93 eight miles long?
Why did the official investigations not ask such questions?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Which black boxes? They aren't indestructable ya know.

NORAD dropped the ball maybe?

Probably because it hit the ground going REALLY fast and was strewn everywhere.

Have you proof they did NOT ask those questions? from a source other then www.bushisevil.org ?

[PatrickHenry]

Heh, Heh. Fun link Vicchio: http://www.bushisevil.org/
Not much discussion, but the opening graphic is funny...

The black boxes are designed to be indestructible:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/Tec...oxes010917.html

Although investigators look for an entire black box, sometimes the only parts of the device that survive are the recorder's crash-survivable memory units (CSMU). The CSMU is almost indestructible. It is housed within a stainless-steel shell that contains titanium or aluminum and a high-temperature insulation of dry silica material. It is designed to withstand heat of up to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for one hour, salt water for at least 30 days, immersion in a variety of liquids such as jet fuel and lubricants, and an impact of 3,400 Gs. By comparison, astronauts are typically exposed to up to six Gs during a shuttle takeoff.

Could NORAD just drop the ball?[SIZE=2]If NORAD dropped the ball who got fired or demoted?[/SIZE]

Aircraft debris fields are typically near the impact site. Flight 93 didn't just hit the ground. Something else happened.
http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_seco...bris_field.html

Proof that the tough questions never were asked? Well maybe behind closed doors or in off the cuff conversations. But the transcripts don't show them...

Re: the Pentagon attack, I think there is something fishy, but I am willing to let it go for now. The precision flying by an untrained suicide pilot is pretty fantastic though.

What about this?
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.pht...-11_Commission

The Bush Administration initially resisted the formation of the Commission, and subsequently obstructed and impeded its progress.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Nice post Patrick

[Mr.Vicchio]

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th.

[Nono]

(PatrickHenry) What happened to the black boxes? Why did NORAD scramble interceptors too damn late? Why was the debris field for Flight 93 eight miles long? Why did the official investigations not ask such questions?

All good questions. Are we sure that there are no valid answers from officialdom? If not, what explanations do you propose?

Here's a question: If the Pennsylvania plane was shot down, why has the air force not been crowing this from the rooftops, given the heat they've taken for failing to intercept anybody?

As for http://www.flight93crash.com/index.html, as a long-time aviation nut (though with no particular expertise) I hasard a few remarks:

How easy is it to grab the controls, and overstress a 757 to the point its engine and bags of debris falls from the sky? Would that debris look like confetti raining down?

You'd have to ask Boeing in this case, but every aircraft has an airspeed beyond which even tiny control inputs will overstress it, especially as it dives into the convection-laden air of the last 5,000 ft. or so above the countryside on a warm, sunny Pennsylvania morning.

The hijackers here would appear to be the bunglers of the group. (How is it that their flight got from Newark practically to Cleveland before they were able to turn it around?)

If we can accept, for the sake of argument, the "Let's roll!" scenario, having a wave of passengers breaking onto the flight deck would have made it obvious that the game was up. As a suicide hijacker, what can you salvage? You can push the control column forward (thus dropping the nose) apply full power, and at least crash and kill everybody. The airspeed will soon rise dramatically, exceeding the design limits. Things WILL start to break off. And since you were already barely 200 MPH below the speed of sound, it won't take you long to reach conditions that would break any passenger jet other than the Concorde.
(If exposed to the airstream, the abundant insulation surrounding the inner fuselage will sure as hell look like confetti floating down.)

It's difficult to imagine what could have been done from the cockpit to overstress a 757 at 500 mph. The consensus from the 757 pilots that have emailed is that it would be possible to overstress this aircraft, but they are really not sure what it would take to do that.

I'd be surprised if they didn't agree that doing what I've just described would achieve it. Beyond the absolute maximum design speed ("QNE"), even in smooth air and with no control inputs, catastrophic vibration will eventually develop. And that's leaving aside the effects of reaching the transonic speed range.

About 10 years ago, the pilot of a Russian Airbus 310 flying over Siberia at night allowed his young son to sit in the pilot's seat. The kid promptly flipped off the autopilot button on the control column and pushed it forward. The plane went into a dive from which it never recovered because, apparently, the "adult" company was pinned to the ceiling of the flight deck and couldn't reach the controls. All captured on the voice recorder.

Jet engine mounts ARE designed to break away before the wing does. There are instances of engines falling off when struck by large blocks of ice formed by lavatory plumbing leaks. I have yet to read of a large passenger jet engine falling off due to overstress.

I have: most catastrophically the DC-10 that crashed out of O'Hare in 1978. And it's happened numerous times -- usually with less tragic results -- on the 747. If a modern jet engine begins to vibrate drastically, for example, it is, precisely, designed to break away before endangering the rest of the airframe. So an engine from Flight 93 turning up far from the crash site doesn't surprise me.

I possess no special insight but the above-stated scenario seems plausible to me. And I ask again: what counter-explanations does anyone propose?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Hold on...

The military shot a missile into the pentagon, Bush knew/planned 9/11 to gain power right? To start a police state and invade Iraq for oil...

Okay, LETS SAY those are all CORRECT!

Why then would you shoot down flight 93 over Pennsylvania?

That makes less sense then anything else.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Originally posted by Nono Here's a question: If the Pennsylvania plane was shot down, why has the air force not been crowing this from the rooftops, given the heat they've taken for failing to intercept anybody?

Because it wasnt shot down until the hijackers were overpowered, the mission was thwarted, the White House was safe, and the only living witnesses of the TRUE identities of the hijackers and the hijackers themselves could not survive this and live to tell about it. Heads would roll. Big Heads. Heads of state.

It was not shot down to prevent an attack, but because the attack had already been thwarted.

[Nono]

Originally posted by gr8fuldaniel, Because it wasnt shot down until the hijackers were overpowered, the mission was thwarted, the White House was safe, and the only living witnesses of the TRUE identities of the hijackers and the hijackers themselves could not survive this and live to tell about it. Heads would roll. Big Heads. Heads of state. It was not shot down to prevent an attack, but because the attack had already been thwarted.

A couple of things:

It seems to me that a 757 hit by an air-to-air missile would come down with very large sections very widely scattered. (Would the impact of a heat-seaking missile not cause a massive explosion of the affected engine, with separation of the wing and ignition of the fuel it contains?) This would make a mess on the ground that would be very impossible to coneal, and nobody would waste their time even considering stress-related break-up. Seems to me.

Why all this talk about the White House? A very tough visual target that. They must have been going after the Capitol Building. A much better target for all sorts of reasons.

And who do you think made up this suicide team? Wild-eyed Enron accountants? Fanatical Young Republicans?
Millenarian Islam is one thing, but how do you crank people up to kill themselves for the Bush/Cheney Axis?

[gr8fuldaniel]

Originally posted by gr8fuldaniel,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gr8fuldaniel,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Because it wasnt shot down until the hijackers were overpowered, the mission was thwarted, the White House was safe, and the only living witnesses of the TRUE identities of the hijackers and the hijackers themselves could not survive this and live to tell about it. Heads would roll. Big Heads. Heads of state. It was not shot down to prevent an attack, but because the attack had already been thwarted.[/b]

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A couple of things:

It seems to me that a 757 hit by an air-to-air missile would come down with very large sections very widely scattered. (Would the impact of a heat-seaking missile not cause a massive explosion of the affected engine, with separation of the wing and ignition of the fuel it contains?) This would make a mess on the ground that would be very impossible to coneal, and nobody would waste their time even considering stress-related break-up. Seems to me.[/quote]

There was an 8 mile debris trail that means an explosion in flight. I dont think a 757 can bounce 8 miles once it hits earth. Besides it has already been disclosed who the pilot was He was in a squadron from north dakota.

Lets Roll "At precisely 0938 hours, an alarm was sounded at Langely Air Force Base, and those whom were on call, drinking coffee, were scrambled. Thus the 119th Fighter Wing was off for an intercept. They, the Happy Hooligans, a unit of 3 F-16 aircraft, were ordered to head toward Pennsylvania. At 0957 they spotted their target; After confirmation orders were received, A one Major Rick Gibney fired two sidewinder missiles at the aircraft and destroyed it in mid flight at precisely 0958; He was awarded a medal from the Governor one year later for his heroic actions. As well as Decorated by Congress on 9/13/2001. The Happy Hooligans were previously stationed in North Dakota, and moved to Langley Air Force base some months before 911 occured on a "Temporary assignment."

Smoking gun, 9-13-2001. Awarded heroic medal.

And who do you think made up this suicide team? Wild-eyed Enron accountants? Fanatical Young Republicans? Millenarian Islam is one thing, but how do you crank people up to kill themselves for the Bush/Cheney Axis?

Hard to say. It could be Saudi Islam extremists or it could be Bush supporters. Bush needed something like this to happen in order to start some wars. The only thing in his pea brain that would bring his approval ratings up, get rich and line the pockets of his puppeteers. And start Armageddon for the whacko church of bush.
Church and State

"The Bible is being used to justify our policies, not to call them into question. When Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney talk about the necessity of American power and supremacy, military supremacy in the world as the only way to peace, I understand that as a foreign policy. I think it's not a wise foreign policy, but I understand it. "When President Bush adds God to their formulation and says God's purpose or intention is somehow linked with American military preeminence, that's a very dangerous thing. [After September 11,] President Bush and the White House basically choreographed a liturgy at the National Cathedral. President Bush was a chief homilist. In the pulpit of the National Cathedral, he made a war speech. He called the nation to arms in the pulpit of the National Cathedral, and he claimed a divine mission for our nation to rid the world of evil. That is not only bad foreign policy or presumptuous foreign policy--I would say it's idolatrous foreign policy to claim God's purpose for that mission. And in the language that Mr. Bush has used, he does this again and again and again. Our role, and his role as president, this is acclaiming a righteous [decree] that Pax Americana is God's foreign policy. This is a very unsettling thing."

[Osborn F Enready]

Answers Nono, can be found here:
http://www.911truth.org/

and here is that sites mission:

Mission Statement

Our mission is to publicly expose the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 in a way that:

leads to full accountability for complicity or gross negligence on the part of individuals inside and outside the U.S. government;
defends rights and liberties endangered in the aftermath of Sept. 11;
reclaims the fundamental values of democracy, transparency and accountability.We shall work with and support the efforts of other groups and individuals who share these same goals.

Recent Achievements
911Truth.org, board members and core staff

9/11 Commission Work

• Attended & monitored ALL public hearings of the 9/11 Commission, and made crucial contributions by:

repeatedly asking why testimony was not under oath until they finally began swearing in all public witnesses;
launching a mass email/phone/fax campaign that deluged the Commissioners with messages demanding that they not depose Condoleezza Rice unsworn behind closed doors, but in public under oath instead; and
holding hard-hitting critical press conferences (carried live by CSPAN) featuring victim families' deep concerns.
Media work

• Organized a "9/11 Truth Candidate" challenge to Bush in the 2004 New Hampshire GOP Primary, featuring Bush-Nazi journalist John Buchanan who did over 35 national radio interviews and gained nearly 1000 votes. (This project also ran 3 full-page 9/11 Truth ads in the arch-conservative Manchester Union Leader during the last 4 days of the campaign when 2000 journalists were in town, leading to a very positive Ellen Mariani interview on MSNBC's rightist news show Scarborough Country.)

• Successfully campaigned to get 9-11 widow Ellen Mariani and her attorney Phil Berg interviewed on BBC World Wide Radio Network & Democracy Now!, the latter leading to another long interview on Air America.

• Successfully campaigned to get "New Pearl Harbor" author, David Ray Griffin featured on Democracy Now!

• Produced/broadcast 8 hours of 9/11 truth programming on Pacifica flagship station WBAI FM in New York

• 911truth.org members have written over 80 articles for publications worldwide and given hundreds of hours of radio, print and TV interviews about 9/11's many still unanswered questions and the official story's many lies.

• Won Project Censored's prestigious Top Ten Award this year for the Ellen Mariani press blackout story

• Published "Official 9/11 Cover-up Guide," Parts I & II

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• Organized the 4-day "Reframing 9/11" conference at Manhattan's Riverside Church (9/11-14/03) with WBAI FM. Over 2,500 people came to hear 30+ 9/11 experts, scholars, progressive journalists, and movement leaders (e.g., Medea Benjamin, Kelly Campbell, Amy Goodman, Wayne Madsen, Cynthia McKinney, Ray McGovern, Greg Palast, William Rivers Pitt, Michael Ruppert, et al.)

• Organized the 3-day Berlin International 9/11 Summit which attracted over 800 to hear Nafeez Ahmed, Cynthia McKinney, Michael Ruppert and many European experts.

• Organized "Stop the 9/11 Cover-up: A 9/11 Widow Speaks Out" at NY's Riverside Church (5/22/04) featuring Ellen Mariani, Phil Berg, Scott Ritter and Sander Hicks.

• Organized 9/11 truth demonstrations in cities across the US and distributed over 600 large "Stop the 9/11 Cover-up" signs (which appeared in Associated Press photos on the front pages of New York's Newsday and the LA Times with caption "Thousands march to "end the war" and "stop the 9-11 cover up." [3/20/04])

• Organized large speaking events for 9-11 widow Ellen Mariani and her attorney in cities across the nation. These events educated thousands and drew sympathetic press and even editorials in a half dozen regional papers as well as over 40 major radio interviews.

• Helped organize two long, authoritative International 9/11 Inquiries in San Francisco & Toronto, with a third planned for late summer in New York City. These events were attended by thousands and generated over 80 hours of taped expert testimony on all aspects of 9/11 events.

• Continue to hold energetic and high-profile Ground Zero 9/11 Vigils every Saturday in New York.

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• Website Launch: Developed new 911Truth.org website for mainstream education and media reference. Will eventually archive or link to all the best 9/11 news, websites, A/V materials, and teaching resources.

• Peace & Justice Heroes Endorsement Campaign: gathering powerful support statements for 9-11 truth movement from eminent figures. Some recent endorsers:

Ed Asner, actor & activist
Medea Benjamin, co-founder, Code Pink and UFPJ
Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret, founder,
Kevin Danaher, co-Founder, Global Exchange
Dr. John Gray, currently world's #1 best selling author
Paul Hellyer, Canada's former Deputy Prime Minister & Defense Minister
Jim Hightower, author, broadcaster, & populist agitator
Tom Kimmel, ex-FBI agent & Pearl Harbor plot expert.
Paul Lannoye, European Parliamentarian (from Belgium)

• "Dude, There's More to the Story" Campaign: a mass national leafleting of Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 911" as it debuts in theaters all across the U.S. and Canada, urging viewers to get involved with 911truth.org

• "Anti-War 9/11 Eureka" Campaign: mass mailing to 400 most active peace & justice groups showing how waking people up to lies behind 9/11 can help turn millions more against the war. (Each mailing contains Griffin's " New Pearl Harbor," our "Official 9/11 Cover-up Guide," and endorsement letters from leaders above.) This will help expand our movement exponentially by showing these groups 9/11's importance to their work.

• "Globalize 9/11 Truth" Campaign has already gotten thousands worldwide to contact all the permanent UN missions and urge that they demand 9-11 truth. A month after this campaign started, when President Bush addressed the UN, his first words to them perforce were "Don't believe those theories about 9-11 . . .

• Preparation of 50,000 "Stop the 9-11 Cover-Up"-style signs to equip protestors at the NYC GOP Convention.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Organized lunacy is more like it.

Why is the concept of Muslim Terrorist pulling off 911 so hard for people to accept?

[Osborn F Enready]

Because thats not what happened, and Bush is tied in with more than the Bin Laden family throughout history. Wake up.

[Nono]

Again, I don't claim to know one way or another. There is certainly no exaggerating the unscrupulousness of the Bushistas. However, there are serious grounds for questioning their competence (see Iraq).

The idea that they organized a massive fake terrorist operation requiring a substantial number of individuals to kill themselves and others, and pulled it off perfectly -- at least until passengers staged an unscheduled uprising on one of the planes and yet more individuals had to be called in to shoot the thing down -- is, it seems to me, giving credit for a monumental achievement to people who went on to display massive incompetence in the occupation of Iraq. Hmm..

As with the direst JFK-assassination conspiracy theories, I wonder how you can keep that many (hundreds? thousands?) of people quiet after the fact.

But I do believe in the validity of Occam's Razor. It seems to me perfectly possible that the cock-up theory explains things as well (and a hell of a lot more simply) than the conspiracy theory, and that the Bushistas simply capitalized on their good political fortune: "Osama be praised!"

At the same time, I admit that there are extremely suspicious circumstances surrounding 911, and that the systematic failure to even address these questions, let alone answer them, suggests some sort of skulduggery.

But we should be wary of lapsing into roxdog mode, which I find an intellectually lazy method for instantly understanding absolutely everything that happens.

Edited for syntax.

[Osborn F Enready]

Nono, that is not what I am saying. I am saying "the Establishment" created the 9-11 attacks, not solely Bush. Do you know what I am saying when I say the "Establishment"?

From Daniel Pouzzners site AMPP: http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/

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Establishment Organization
"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
-James Madison, Federalist Papers #47

Members of the establishment, and their collaborators, occupy leadership positions and positions of strategic significance in the following six power structure categories:

Academia, institutions of ideology (including foundations and major traditional religions), the news and entertainment media (including ``watchdog'' organizations), and the advertising industry


Banking, finance, and insurance


The intelligence community and militaries


Manufacturing, construction, resource extraction and processing, waste processing, agriculture, transportation, utilities, computer software, and supporting services and industries


Elected office, government bureaucracy, judiciaries, the law enforcement community, prison staffs, law firms, accounting firms, professional organizations, and medical and psychiatric facilities and institutes


Shipping and retail distribution, organized labor, organized crime, citizen militias, and cults


These six categories are evident in the complete Bilderberg attendance list with affiliations, partial CFR and TLC membership roster with affiliations, complete CFR membership roster without affiliations, and complete Trilateral Commission membership roster without affiliations.

These categories are arranged in a control hierarchy that is intrinsic to the sociological status quo. The architecture and operating system is mostly the product of those in category 1, who in the final analysis are the most powerful. They exert a great influence over the whole of society, including every other category. Those in category 2 control those in category 3 and 4 according to the advice and manipulations of those in category 1. Categories 3 and 4 work hand in hand on tightly integrated manufacturing and technology development projects. They have a thoroughly symbiotic relationship, known as the "military-industrial complex." Those in category 5 and 6 are directed principally by those in category 4, but often directly by those in category 2. The intelligence community portion of category 3 and the law enforcement portion of category 5 also routinely handle coordination of the organized crime and cult portions of category 6 directly. Categories 5 and 6 engage in turf wars with each other when left to their own devices, because they are at the same level of the control hierarchy and have conflicting interests. Those in category 5 are interposed between the public and categories 2-4. In other words, the purpose of the visible government (excepting the military) is obstruction of justice.

An individual becomes part of the dominant center of this apparatus through deliberate induction - e.g., by invitation to Skull & Bones or the Bilderberg group. Candidates for induction exhibit acumen for interpersonal manipulation, flexibility of conviction, obedience and dominance, the capacity to studiously sustain elaborate façades and schemes of compartmentalization, susceptibility to bribery and blackmail, lust for and attraction to power, and a predisposition to refrain from forming a conscious, integrated and consistent model of reality. The establishment works to shape society so that this basic personality profile is the norm rather than the exception, and they have already made great strides to that end. Often, and more crucially the greater his age, a candidate is in a position of influence or privileged access in one of the power structure categories. Curiously, Bill Clinton appears to be a case of extreme suitability to the purposes of the establishment, with a very full house of candidate characteristics.

An interesting example of someone who is probably not a typical member of the establishment is Alan Greenspan. Greenspan is in a position of immense influence. He exhibits the capacity to studiously sustain elaborate façades and schemes of compartmentalization. However, he has very little flexibility of conviction, very little lust for power, and no discernible susceptibility to bribery or blackmail. Thus, despite his position and skills, he is thoroughly unsuited to the usual purposes of the establishment leadership. He could not, however, occupy his position without their assent. Thus, clearly the leadership deems it advantageous to have an individual of true competence and principle in that position, to expertly hold together an economic house of cards until further notice, as it were (In 1999 he had announced his intention to retire in 2000, though obviously he did not follow through on this threat). Greenspan can be viewed as an unwitting abettor of their schemes. He is aware of the establishment's program in its pecuniary essence, if not its baroque totality as illuminated in this compilation. (See his essay on the subject.) His public support for the Financial Services Act of 1998, which permits and facilitates mergers between banks, securities trading firms, and insurance companies, underscores his alignment with trust-permissive infrastructure in general and the establishment leadership in particular.

What follows is a brief enumeration of the motivations, and hence the commonalities of interest, for each of the six power structure categories. The danger is in the intersection of goals - that set of goals that all six categories share. These common goals are fairly clear.

Those in academia, institutions of ideology (including foundations and major traditional religions), the news and entertainment media (including ``watchdog'' organizations), and the advertising industry include the thinktankers, the Kissingers and Brzezinskis, the spinmeisters, those who gave birth to Mutually Assured Destruction, and those who purvey the blight of communism as a moral imperative. In this category are those who whisper in the ears of hapless figurehead leaders, leaders who are not equipped to recognize, comprehend, or challenge the subtleties, motivations, or indeed, flaws, of the so-called advice delivered to them. This category houses the super-smart super-evil, the social engineers and eugenicists, the architects of slavery and ruin, those who design the curricula which sabotage the youth. It also houses the architects of faith, the cloistered psychological warriors, who adjust the convictions of the flock through the conduit of the church hierarchy, in pursuit of their agenda of control. This category includes the systematicians who, alone in the establishment, have a broad understanding of their endeavor, and of the totality of their evil - though often not recognizing it as such. It is good to realize that the free market system is seen by academics as putting a bunch of amateurs in the driver's seat; thus the superiority of the free market is considered by most academics to be heresy. The academics and ideologues believe they can architect and control a tyrannical world government, because diabolical designs and control are their domain and their aim.

In 1996, I wrote a short essay on the subject of academicians, which I now excerpt here.

``Consider the incessant barrage of instructive experiences that comprise the days of every human from their earliest days of awareness. Most of the time, parents reward obedience and punish independence. When the child is sent to school, be it public or private, he is presented with an environment in which the rewards for obedience and the punishments for independence and defiance are even starker. He is taught that his immediate self-esteem *should* be directly proportional to his grades, both absolutely and relative to the grades of his classmates. He knows the teacher can demand virtually anything of him within the context of the classwork, and he knows the teacher can grade him based upon whimsy alone. If he dreams of achievement, he probably dreams of college. He knows his grades are important if he is to be admitted to, and be able to pay for, a good college. So he is taught year after year that his will is subordinate to other arbitrary wills, and that the means of his personal achievement are predicated on the successful enlistment of support from those he is subordinate to.

``In this artificial pressure cooker, is it not surprising that many students discover they can win, according to the rules set out for them, by being second handers, manipulators, social engineers, and outright cheaters?

``The price they pay at the time is very high, but the horrific reality is that once they realize the high price they have paid, they continue to choose as they have before, believing the price is already paid. They further distance themselves from the world of authentic first-handers.

``By the time these children are adults, they are so completely given over to the world of the second hander that they can experience a first-hander's extension of an olive branch only as an affront. The barrier is psychological, but not "just psychological." This barrier is very real.

``I now return to the specific example of the career academician.

``An academician is a man who has played by the rules to the end, jumping through every hoop, every signature on every thesis, every entrance exam, every plea with every arbitrary referee and advisor, every requirement in every curriculum, every problem set, every lab, and all the right "extra-curricular" activities. Sound tiresome? Sound demoralizing? To be sure! After the child chooses to believe the orthodox definitions of achievement and its means, the child becomes a man who is dedicated to the means and actualities of orthodox achievement.''

Those in banking, finance, and insurance are concerned with the performance of the transnational industrialists, and also directly with the operation and regulation of currency systems, stock markets, commodity markets (particularly precious metals), and government bonds, and laws and regulations that affect loan performance. The insurers are also concerned with laws that directly affect them (laws mandating liability and health insurance, for example), and with the ability to enforce the terms of their policies wherever the claim originates (requiring a transnational regulatory body). A world government that mandates various types of insurance is, obviously, an appealing prospect for insurers. Insurers are intrinsically interested in heavily instrumented and regulated economies, because this provides the information and regularity needed to precisely set their rates to guarantee profit. A heavily instrumented and regulated world economy is such a complex system that accurate statistical models thereof are not feasible except for large existing corporations, so world government inherently perpetuates an existing oligarchy of insurers. Insurance, it is good to note, is inherently socialist, in that it constitutes a system of wealth redistribution from the healthy and successful to the sick and failed. H.R. 10, the Financial Services Act of 1998 (already passed by the full House - download all 293 pages here as PDF or plaintext), eliminates legacy barriers to consolidation of the industries in this category "To enhance competition in the financial services industry by providing a prudential framework for the affiliation of banks, securities firms, and other financial service providers, and for other purposes."

Since transnational banks routinely make large loans to governments across national boundaries, the bankers have a self-evident direct interest in a supreme world government capable of enforcing the terms of the loan. Another obvious example of interest in globalism is currency market activity, since in these markets one is essentially trading in shares of distinct nations. A world government could enforce prohibitions on fiat devaluation actions, for example. In its role as enforcer of so-called austerity measures, a world government often gains substantial control over the internal decision-making process of a nation's economy, and exercises that control as it sees fit. The IMF and World Bank are undiluted incarnations of this theme. The global bankers, financiers, and insurers believe they can influence a world government so that it implements policies favorable to them. This is not an unreasonable expectation at all, especially when one considers that the world's major intelligence organizations are little more than private eyes and foot soldiers for the international banker clique.

The intelligence community and militaries are a power structure category with a special perspective, who command distinguished assets. Of all the people in the world, those working at the highest level of intelligence synthesis in the Fort Meade, Maryland headquarters of the US National Security Agency have the most complete and accurate picture of the state of the human world, and those working at the highest levels of command in the Pentagon and the Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado headquarters of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, command the most awful military arsenal in existence. This raw knowledge and power informs and intoxicates those who wield it. In fact, the megalomaniacal and apocalyptic vagaries of one of NORAD's early Commanders in Chief are legendary, and ostensibly brushed perilously close to provoking the Soviets to strike first.

Imagine an organization that watches nearly every TV channel in the world, listens to nearly every radio signal in the world, registers and can monitor nearly any long distance phone call in the world, reads nearly every newspaper and magazine in the world, reads nearly every unencrypted email it wants to, and tracks nearly every WWW query and download including the one you made to retr