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Apologist · Sep 15, 2008, 12:24 pm

With so many posts being made on this site I can't help but notice the constant references to non-credible sources. Bloggers have this way to elevate someone to a position that is godly or satanic, and it seems most of you fall into it.

I would love to know how many of you have met with your local representatives> I say this because I can read an article in the paper that in no way characterizes a person I have known for years. The person writing the articles has a set idea about the person they are writing about and they use words draw this person as a fictitious hero or nemesis. You are reading a bunch of crap!!!!! Someone's opinion, and a lousy opinion at that.

The worst part is so many believe it. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.....I'll laugh.

Listen to what the candidates are saying, listen to their ideas, look at their voting history, look at ACTUAL records, then make up your mind. Quit taking your parents, teachers, bloggers, friends and acquaintances' opinions and make up your own mind!

**Matt W** · Sep 15, 2008, 12:57 pm

This isn't a debate, as such.

Mr.Vicchio · Sep 15, 2008, 04:01 pm

I hit all those crazy right wing places...
Anywhere but CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and most of your print media.

I like my news without the "shivers up my leg" sort fo fawning you get from those sites.

Sonart · Sep 15, 2008, 09:17 pm

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Attaboy, Mr.V. A good, steady diet of FAUXNews, NewsMax, FreeRepublic, Wall Street Journal, etc. for you, right?

Personally, my biggest source of information is my daily newspaper, the rather conservative San Diego Union/Tribune. I also spend a lot of time listening to NPR, and reading TIME magazine, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, and WIRED, all of which I subscribe to. I seldom watch any network news, preferring to surf between CNN, FAUX and MSNBC when I'm looking for timely headline information.

That's pretty much it. When sourcing information for my posts, I usually go out of my way to find MSM articles, rather than blogs or Internet news boutiques, although finding arcane information often requires looking up arcane sources.

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**Jack** · Sep 15, 2008, 09:33 pm

The Christian Science Monitor (yeah, I know, ironic, but the best, reasonably unbiased journalism in print and online) and The Week in print every Friday for a recap of the week's stories.

Sockem · Sep 15, 2008, 09:38 pm

Akron Beacon Journal, local news, and Fox News.

Failed Design · Sep 15, 2008, 11:48 pm

infoshop.org

google news

grandpa · Sep 16, 2008, 09:41 am

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infoshop.org
google news

I often direct people to Infoshop's FAQ.

Grandpa h.

Apologist · Sep 16, 2008, 11:31 am

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infoshop.org

google news

I hope you weren't quoting those as credible sources

**Jack** · Sep 16, 2008, 11:34 am

Google News is just an aggregator for other media. It doesn't provide any of its own content.

Apologist · Sep 16, 2008, 11:46 am

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Google News is just an aggregator for other media. It doesn't provide any of its own content.

Yeah and it's links NYTimes, Fox News, and the all of the above mentioned.

Articles are much more easy to curse with unreality then interviews and speeches. Unless you're Charles Gibson and you edit half of the interview out.

Failed Design · Sep 16, 2008, 12:34 pm

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I hope you weren't quoting those as credible sources

Infoshop links to stories from other news sources.
As does google. I do not use any particular news source, if that is what you mean.

Mr.Vicchio · Sep 16, 2008, 01:28 pm

DRUDGE REPORT 2008® for starters, fun to read the headlines.
Breaking News | Latest News | Current News - FOXNews.com for most day to day news
The Weekly Standard
National Review Online
www.jewishworldreview.com all three for political opinions

WorldNetDaily - A Free Press for a Free People for my daily dose of silliness, sometimes they have interestign links, but hinge a bit out there from time to time.

I listen to Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity daily.

grandpa · Sep 16, 2008, 02:47 pm

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Quote by: Mr.Vicchio

DRUDGE REPORT 2008® for starters, fun to read the headlines.
Breaking News | Latest News | Current News - FOXNews.com for most day to day news
The Weekly Standard
National Review Online
www.jewishworldreview.com all three for political opinions

WorldNetDaily - A Free Press for a Free People for my daily dose of silliness, sometimes they have interestign links, but hinge a bit out there from time to time.

I listen to Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity daily.

Figures.

Mr.Vicchio · Sep 18, 2008, 08:11 pm

I'm not ashamed of my web sites I visit.

Aussie · Sep 18, 2008, 08:20 pm

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I'm not ashamed of my web sites I visit.

Ever heard of Gunning Fox Index? Lets just say Foxnews doesn't score very high, so you can imagine what type of readers it's appealing to...

Mr.Vicchio · Sep 18, 2008, 09:25 pm

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Ever heard of Gunning Fox Index? Lets just say Foxnews doesn't score very high, so you can imagine what type of readers it's appealing to...

Have you ever heard of ratings?

Markets don't lie. Fox > Other cable outlets.

MSM Print media is collapsing...
But right wing talk radio is a huge success... hmmm

Liberal media falters, balanced to right wing is making money and succeeding.

Gee, what does that mean?

Aussie · Sep 18, 2008, 09:29 pm

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Quote by: Mr.Vicchio

Have you ever heard of ratings?

Markets don't lie. Fox > Other cable outlets.

MSM Print media is collapsing...
But right wing talk radio is a huge success... hmmm

Liberal media falters, balanced to right wing is making money and succeeding.

Gee, what does that mean?

That's your argument? Wow.

Mr.Vicchio · Sep 18, 2008, 10:52 pm

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That's your argument? Wow.

Yeah.. left leaning media is failing, right wing is succeeding.

Works for me.

Failed Design · Sep 18, 2008, 10:55 pm

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Yeah.. left leaning media is failing, right wing is succeeding.

Works for me.

Look at your signature.

Sep 15, 2008, 12:24 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Apologist God Bless Posts: 166	Where you get your news! With so many posts being made on this site I can't help but notice the constant references to non-credible sources. Bloggers have this way to elevate someone to a position that is godly or satanic, and it seems most of you fall into it. I would love to know how many of you have met with your local representatives> I say this because I can read an article in the paper that in no way characterizes a person I have known for years. The person writing the articles has a set idea about the person they are writing about and they use words draw this person as a fictitious hero or nemesis. You are reading a bunch of crap!!!!! Someone's opinion, and a lousy opinion at that. The worst part is so many believe it. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.....I'll laugh. Listen to what the candidates are saying, listen to their ideas, look at their voting history, look at ACTUAL records, then make up your mind. Quit taking your parents, teachers, bloggers, friends and acquaintances' opinions and make up your own mind! "If, instead of a gem, or even a flower, we should cast the gift of a loving thought into the heart of a friend, that would be giving as the angels give." George MacDonald

Sep 15, 2008, 12:57 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,191	This isn't a debate, as such. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Sep 15, 2008, 04:01 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335	I hit all those crazy right wing places... Anywhere but CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and most of your print media. I like my news without the "shivers up my leg" sort fo fawning you get from those sites. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Sep 15, 2008, 09:17 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Sonart It's only logical Location: San Diego Posts: 4,951	. Attaboy, Mr.V. A good, steady diet of FAUXNews, NewsMax, FreeRepublic, Wall Street Journal, etc. for you, right? Personally, my biggest source of information is my daily newspaper, the rather conservative San Diego Union/Tribune. I also spend a lot of time listening to *NPR, and reading TIME* magazine, *Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, and WIRED, all of which I subscribe to. I seldom watch any network news, preferring to surf between CNN, FAUX and MSNBC when I'm looking for timely headline information. That's pretty much it. When sourcing information for my posts, I usually go out of my way to find MSM articles, rather than blogs or Internet news boutiques, although finding arcane information often requires looking up arcane sources. . I don't suffer from insanity... I thoroughly enjoy it*

Sep 15, 2008, 09:33 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,180	The Christian Science Monitor (yeah, I know, ironic, but the best, reasonably unbiased journalism in print and online) and The Week in print every Friday for a recap of the week's stories. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Sep 15, 2008, 11:48 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Failed Design Ambiguous, Insane Location: Lycoming College Posts: 94	infoshop.org google news

Sep 16, 2008, 11:34 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,180	Google News is just an aggregator for other media. It doesn't provide any of its own content. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Sep 16, 2008, 01:28 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335	DRUDGE REPORT 2008® for starters, fun to read the headlines. Breaking News \| Latest News \| Current News - FOXNews.com for most day to day news The Weekly Standard National Review Online www.jewishworldreview.com all three for political opinions WorldNetDaily - A Free Press for a Free People for my daily dose of silliness, sometimes they have interestign links, but hinge a bit out there from time to time. I listen to Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity daily. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Sep 18, 2008, 08:11 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335	I'm not ashamed of my web sites I visit. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?